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re: Kudos to Gus Malzahn

Posted on 11/1/20 at 5:33 pm to
Posted by AuSteeler
montgomery. AL
Member since Jan 2015
2989 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 5:33 pm to
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Our clown coach is 3 of 8 against LSU and the primary reason for Auburn currently being behind in this series. Which now stands at 31–23–1. And when adjusting for those leads which he's squandered it would be a near balanced rivalry so. . .

. . . it simply was about time!


Sorry, you are confusing.

with your statement saying "primary reason for Auburn currently being behind in this series. Which now stands at 31-23-1..",
...then with your logic, to even the series with LSU we needed to win 8 more. That means you meant Gus has 8 losses against LSU...Gus is 3-5.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10936 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 5:42 pm to
nice try

but you only need to: add the 3 (recent) near losses to AU's 23
and then remove the same 3 wins from LSU's 31

To achieve a 26 to 28 series - which to most is indeed fairly balanced.

And which could of conceivably been equaled in 3 to 4 years; instead of the very probable decade long (10 season) hole Gus has actually dug.




etc: UGA to LSU
This post was edited on 11/1/20 at 6:23 pm
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61635 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 6:23 pm to
LSU is 31-23-1

When Gus Started, it was 26-20-1


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and the primary reason for Auburn currently being behind in this series.


Its not like he is responsible for us being behind in the series. LSU has been a better program than us in the past 20 years and thats easy to see.


I wish if you guys were going to ruin every thread with a "I hate Gus" argument, you would at least make it honest. Your statement is just not true.

Auburn beats LSU by the biggest margin ever. Basically punks them and some of you can do nothing but be negative and whine. Hard to believe you really give a shite about the program in general.

Pathetic


Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10936 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 6:42 pm to
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Pathetic
Is letting one good win erase the dismal record he's tallied against our major rivals.

plus

I never said the win was no good, not fun, nor left me feeling bad or sad. I'm just not jumping up and down rah-rah-rah over one win, as if it's a major turn the corner moment for this season, or changed Gus's worth as HC. Because to me it's just one win and doesn't make up for the first 5 games.


And 1 single game doesn't make me or break me.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61635 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 4:55 am to
quote:

Is letting one good win erase the dismal record he's tallied against our major rivals.



Hell no it doesnt. That South Carolina game hurt. It was a pathetic loss. We are a much better team and we did not seem to be prepared and our guys played like shite.


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I'm just not jumping up and down rah-rah-rah over one win, as if it's a major turn the corner moment for this season, or changed Gus's worth as HC. Because to me it's just one win and doesn't make up for the first 5 games.


No win would ever do that for some of you. You are like a woman that has been cheated on. Its the main reason I think Gus should be replaced. Not so much because of him or really the performance of the team but mostly because a big portion of the fan base is over him and with that, things will never change. Team could win 40 in a row and then lose one and you guys would be jumping up and down " I told you so" BS and making up fake stats to disprove it.

Its why he needs to be replaced and someone else brought in who can reel the fan base back in.

quote:

And 1 single game doesn't make me or break me.


Me neither and probably not for a big portion of the guys here. But some of us are going to enjoy and celebrate Auburn wins and great performances no matter how much some of you cry in your beer...


WDE brother. Gus will be gone at some point. Your whining about it wont make it happen any faster. Try to enjoy the good moments when the team plays well.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10936 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 5:37 am to
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Its not like he is responsible for us being behind in the series...

... at least make it honest. Your statement is just not true.


Listen you twit, trolling, tequila swilling, hillbilly it's simple elementary school maths. The 31-23-1 is fact.

It's undeniable, it's no lie, nor untrue. Spin it any way you want and it still won't be wrong. And while your now ancient history of 26-20-1 is also true, it's not earth shattering revelation, nor does it prove anyone wrong. Because it's certainly not at odds with subtracting the three from 23 to get 20 and taking five from 31 to get 26. And if the maths confusing there's always counting to 20 and 23 and 26 and 31 (and 1 for the tie)... or does running out of fingers and toes cause you a problem?

So where's the lie ?

It's certainly no lie that we've gifted them 3 of their 5 wins. So it's certainly no lie that there was an excellent chance to go up 6 to their 2. Which means it's no lie we could have nearly balanced the series. And although I didn't write it before, it's no lie that perpetually losing by sitting on too thin a lead, is in essence a coach quitting on his team. So yes he does bear major responsibility... because the guys on the field had proven... they were good enough to win.


And doesn't it hurt . . .

. . . to keep doing the belly flop, flying fisherman from the top rope, as if your part of his tag team ?
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61635 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 6:33 am to
quote:

Listen you twit, trolling, tequila swilling, hillbilly


Solid.


quote:

It's undeniable, it's no lie, nor untrue. Spin it any way you want and it still won't be wrong. And while your now ancient history of 26-20-1 is also true, it's not earth shattering revelation, nor does it prove anyone wrong. Because it's certainly not at odds with subtracting the three from 23 to get 20 and taking five from 31 to get 26. And if the maths confusing there's always counting to 20 and 23 and 26 and 31 (and 1 for the tie)... or does running out of fingers and toes cause you a problem?


None of this new math proves this

[img]and the primary reason for Auburn currently being behind in this series. [/img]


Trust me, my trade school education certainly understands the line you are trying to draw but it is a very curvy line. And the math, though not exact, is solid. Just not the reason Auburn is behind in the series. You can't count on wins because you are up. If so, then you have to discount the wins we have had in games where we were behind, possible not really suppose to win but did.

We have been very competitive against LSU for the most part the past 8 years. Probably should have won a couple we lost. But we can also do that math for other games in other series.

quote:

And doesn't it hurt . . .

. . . to keep doing the belly flop, flying fisherman from the top rope, as if your part of his tag team ?



I think I made my discussion clear. Sorry its hard for you to discuss the topic without skewing the stats to make them work for you.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10936 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 6:49 am to
And like wise ...

I know it's hard for you understand not being content with a win.




eta: BTW - us hillbillies have to schtick together.
This post was edited on 11/2/20 at 6:52 am
Posted by 88TIger
Member since Nov 2012
2070 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 6:54 am to
I saw better play calling in this game which surprised me to be honest. I guess Chad has a handle on what the personnel can do. Don't know why it took so long (although no spring season hurt). Now if he keeps it up we should be fine the rest of the season. If not then it will be a tough watch...
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36458 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 7:01 am to
Having no spring undoubtedly didn’t help. In hind sight probably should’ve went with our bread and butter and ran the dang ball until things were ironed out.
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
7910 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 7:09 am to
I’m still in disbelief over our UGA gameplan. That was going to be a tough one and there was no way around it, but I have no idea what our offensive staff was thinking.
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
12747 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 7:35 am to
quote:

I’m somewhere close to the same. Just not getting too upset about games this year. Can’t even explain why.
Same here. My view is that this year is a wash no matter what.

The thing is, when you look around the country, it isn't just Auburn...most games are ugly.

Unless you have an established team (like a Bama/OSU/Clemson), teams are struggling mightily because they lost so much practice time. Even Clemson's dominance is in question with Lawrence out. They looked beatable Saturday against BC, and without him again this week, ND has a good shot of knocking them off.

When you look at the P5, there are tons of lopsided games each Saturday. I think this past week, the only real nail-biter in the P5 was Texas/Okie State.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41104 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 7:47 am to
0-13 vs Bama, LSU, and Georgia on the road. Unacceptable.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28898 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 8:57 am to
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Don't know why it took so long (although no spring season hurt). Now if he keeps it up we should be fine the rest of the season. If not then it will be a tough watch...

I think the coaching staff has told Nix to just run upfield if he gets panicked. It seems that’s a habit he picked up in HS, so they’re just going with it, even if it’s risking injury.

They’re also not giving up on establishing the run. This team needs close to 50 rush attempts a game to win, which is opening up easy play action passes for Nix, while keeping his pass attempts around 25.

Very happy for the guys and coaches this week, enjoy that beat down over the bye week.

WDE
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42560 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 9:12 am to
I am good with it. If he can pickup 3-4 yards, then great. He just needs to slide feet first so the play is dead.
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
12747 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 9:47 am to
quote:

0-13 vs Bama, LSU, and Georgia on the road. Unacceptable.
I'll agree that is unacceptable, but outside of Tubbs at Tuscaloser, the last couple of coaches before Gus were pretty unacceptable in that metrics as well.

Chizik never won in Baton Rouge or Athens, and was the greatest player away from going 0fer Tuscaloosa.

Tubs was 1-4 in Baton Rouge and 3-2 in Athens. Thankfully he had Bama's number and was 4-0 in Tuscaloosa.

Going back to Bowden (counting the 1998 season as his), he was 3-0 in Athens, but 0-2-1 against UGA at home. He was also 2-1 in Baton Rouge and 0-3 in Birmingham.

So the three coaches between Dye and Gus were a total of 14-15. Better than Gus, but still not great.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17288 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 10:59 am to
quote:

So the three coaches between Dye and Gus were a total of 14-15. Better than Gus
Bit of an understatement.

But it should be mentioned that From '93 to 2012 those teams had some down years as well (12 combined losing seasons on the field). Since then, other than a couple of average years for LSU & UGa they have been remarkably good. In fact LSU this year will be the first time any of those teams has won fewer than 60% of their games in a season since Gustav took over.

Overall Winning Percentage 1993-2012
LSU .702
UGa .699
Bama .625

Overall Winning Percentage 2013-2019
LSU .758
UGa .758
Bama .899
This post was edited on 11/2/20 at 11:00 am
Posted by Bow to Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
1830 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:58 am to
Pretty good stats on the winning %.

I don’t think it’s only the record.... it’s how we have lost that makes it harder. Big leads blown, looked incompetent, lost every way possible it seems.

Maybe Gus can generate the Bama magic again this year. He probably has the one of the highest, if not the Highest win % against Saban.
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 12:06 pm to
Beating LSU was important. It was one of those teams that kept getting away from Gus. If only for the optics, when LSU was down we should have beaten them and we did.

I will confess, just when I thought LSU had figured themselves out in Auburn was still looking for an identity, Gus completely flipped the script. I don’t know what the rest of the season is going to look like, but if we were able to put on a defensive show like that, then that is something to build on.
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
11089 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

Bama .899


That's just insane right there
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