re: Kobe Hudson transferring?

Oh well, I'm sure it will all come out whether he is or isn't leading properly.

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Auburn did have a culture problem, players were lazy under Malzahn and he let them get away with way too much. The Strength and Conditioning being dreadful is problem #1. Especially when you OL was not being built to be strong, and just built for speed under the "fast" Malzahn system. Fast over the year became slow as frick and then when it was fast it was stupid NASCAR insta stopped 1st down runs wasting a complete down for nothing. You could probably count on 1 hand how many times the NASCAR plays actually resulted in a 5+ yard gain. I'm hoping Harsin can develop more thought into the offensive playcalling than the last 2, so far I love the TE plays.

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Yes.

Garner also wanted his DL to show up overweight in the fall and play themselves into shape so they could hold weight during the season. He'd also never check up on his players in the off-season. I assume Steele either tolerated it or condoned it. Was this 1978? No it was 2020. There's an interview of a player that played at AU and BSU that talks about the different approaches to strength training between Pitman and Gus' strength guy. It was pretty enlightning. When the rules were changed to slow things down, Gus should have changed his strength training approach IMO.

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Jang to conclusions should be patented for all the right reasons.

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Its an enviable and creative quote for sure. Cheers.

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Only the bunker and rant can spin losing our best receiver that happens to drop the ball every now and then as constructive

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I'm not spinning anything as constructive, I'm just not saying it's the end of Auburn Football either.

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Auburn legacy is all I hear about Nix. If that wasn't his last name, would anyone be upset about losing a less than 60% completion/mediocre QB?

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I get you there bro. Im just saying, we dont have anything better right now and you saw that in the bowl game. TJ is horrible. We needed Bo's 50% because TJ will basically be horrible.

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When you have players dancing on the sidelines while getting their asses kicked by a bunch of nerds from Northwestern, hell yes you have a culture issue. Y

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I absolutely hate that shite. I always have. Its like we live in a world now where you celebrate every damn play. But that culture does not come from a head coach and it wont be cleaned up by one. It is just the world we live in with these young kids now. Same with the NFL. You can be losing by 30 but if you make a good play, you act like its the best thing you have ever done. If that is a culture issue, then every team in college and pros have a culture problem. And by the way, our team did it this year.

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No it's not. Big money, winning tradition, fertile recruiting grounds surrounding it, new facilities being built, etc. Auburn is one of the top programs in the country. If it was so hard to win at, that wouldn't be the case.

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I will agree to disagree with you on this. If it were one of the top programs like some of you think, why cant we hire any coach with any success? Or even a position coach.

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I haven't seen a single guy that has transferred make an impact anywhere else since leaving.

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I am more concerned at what they could have done if they remained vs what they did somewhere else. Tell me 3 players that have ever left Auburn that were successful somewhere else? There are very few. Its more about what we are left with than what they carry with them in my eyes

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I'm pretty sure if Hudson got kicked off the team, there was a good reason for it.

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I would agree. If that ends up being the case. Im talking in general terms

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Jang to conclusions should be patented for all the right reasons.

Only the bunker and rant can spin losing our best receiver that happens to drop the ball every now and then as constructive

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While I hate losing a WR who had the most experience of returning WRs in Harsin's offense and I hoped Hudson would improve after a full year catching balls...

....It's a little weak to rely on him being our 'best WR' when he had weaknesses.
His longest catch was for 36 yards. 7 other players had longer pass catches than him. So basically he was more of a possession WR.
He also was not a good contact WR. If he was contested or hit hard, he struggled catching it.
He did have moments when he lost focus and didn't catch easy catches.

So saying all that, we are in the same boat as last year at WR. Our top 3 WRs are gone(like last year).
So I hope we get a Transfer veteran WR in the portal.
Now it's time to see what the new guys can do (Kelly, Brown, Dawson), and hope the current guys who know the system come through (J Johnson, M. Johnson, Evans, Capers)

So losing an experienced starter at WR is a problem it's not program shaking to me, as much as losing Nix, with what was behind him now.

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If we had a lot of talented WRs who were behind Hudson due to experience/being unproven, it would be.

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Exactly. Constructive roster management in the scenario that he is WR1 because he is metaphorically speaking the tallest midget is eventually letting his role diminish while others take over. Not just replacing the tallest midget and starting over again.

I don’t know what Hudson did wrong but his departure is a tough loss.

And to whoever said something to the effect of “this isn’t the end of Auburn football.”

No it’s not. But it’s going to hurt next year.

I really have no problem with a concern or sharing a concern, but I am far from being passive as well.

I just decided from the very start to give the man a solid two to three years to implement his processes and I wasn't going to being overly critical or even mildly critical of every move he makes or things taking place.
ETA: I am not comfortable with everything taking place, but I expected it to be that way based on all the things I read about him and learning about his philosophy.

If he was able to pull out those 3-4 wins we were in, and all of you would have been where I am at. It's easier for people to get everyone to buy in with quick success. Harsin fell flat in year one. I suspect if next year is the same or worse Corch and others will be correct about his short tenure.

I am sticking to that and you all are welcome to lodge your concerns and complaints. I will reserve the right to comment as I wish as well. My biggest concern is he won't get the time he needs to prove his process works or not because of impatience. That is all.

I still have high expectations of him and what he does, but I am choosing to see what he can do. I already said Kobe's departure is uncomfortable. Even though he was inconsistent he showed some signs of good potential as well. Dropping easy passes and then catch ones that are spectacular catches. I have no idea why he left or was kicked off.


You and others have decided he will fail, I am keeping an open mind to allow him to succeed or fail. Key players have chosen to stay, others have chosen to go. We will see if his methods work or not. I don't know what the conclusion will be. Apparently you do.

I hope for Auburn's sake Harsin is the answer, because having to get another coach in a short time is equally bad.

For the record, I am not an avid fisherman so that subject doesn't interest me. I much prefer the photos of you drinking on the beach with your wife's legs next to you.