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re: Kam Pettway has a broken bone

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Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 3:09 pm to
Arkansas has been decimated by injuries this year... with a much more “traditional” approach to Strength & Conditioning... Alabama lost two starting linebackers in week one... LSU has lost three OLs to injuries this year.... all with more traditional S&C programs.

Outside of pettway (who has a freaking broken bone) and KJ (who has an injury history that dates back to high school) we are a relatively healthy football. Tray Matthews missed some time as well, but he has a history of injuries.
Posted by AUNashville
New Haven
Member since Jul 2014
3561 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 3:15 pm to
Not related, but does anyone know who the football players were who got in a fight at a fraternity party who JJ wanted to hire lasted lawyers for?
Posted by TigerPaw1
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Apr 2011
16979 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 3:18 pm to
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We traditionally put up weak numbers at the combine, sorry not looking that up for you...

That's not what I ask tho not sure it's accurate....

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And as for injuries, really? Every year we’re plagued by injuries, to the point that it’s damn near comical. And don’t give me the argument of it being a part of football and we’re no more banged up than the rest of the country. I know all too well that injuries are a part of football, a knee injury ended my career.

Ok but it feels like we are "plagued" by injuries because you are emotionally invested in this team. I would genuinely be interested in knowing if our injuries are actually worse than other team's or not

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Sorry for providing an opinion that may differ from yours, but that’s the way I see it. I don’t like the way we train, and I think it makes us weak and injury prone.

Sorry for asking for some actual data to back up that opinion of yours. It's easy to have an opinion with nothing backing it up except what you THINK is true
This post was edited on 10/31/17 at 3:20 pm
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34884 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

We traditionally put up weak numbers at the combine, sorry not looking that up for you...


Under Yox? Absolutely. He did not train to combine activities. He was, however, not a cross-fit pussyfoot as you call them.

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Every year we’re plagued by injuries, to the point that it’s damn near comical.


Really? I don't remember being plagued with injuries in 13, 14, or 15 really. Last year we had some key guys get hurt, funny they are mainly the ones that are hurt again this year.

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I don’t like the way we train, and I think it makes us weak and injury prone.


Which team should we train like? What are we currently doing different than those teams?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34884 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

Arkansas has been decimated by injuries this year... with a much more “traditional” approach to Strength & Conditioning... Alabama lost two starting linebackers in week one... LSU has lost three OLs to injuries this year.... all with more traditional S&C programs.


I'm going to go out on a pretty sturdy limb here and say our S&C program is not drastically different than any of those.
Posted by WDE01
In Da Heezy
Member since Aug 2009
383 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 3:38 pm to
It’s been stated before that Russell takes a different approach. That was the whole reason Malzahn apparently brought him when he came.
As for data, the only data that I can provide is from experience. I don’t have numbers for you, nor do I care to try to find any. The gym has been a part of my life for the majority of my life. I have been in many gyms in many different places, and have worked out with and around lots of different type people. From my experience, what I’ve seen,... there are more injuries to people who train that way than people who use a traditional S&C program
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
26698 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 3:46 pm to
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As for data, the only data that I can provide is from experience. I don’t have numbers for you, nor do I care to try to find any.

Not a good way to argue your point. As for combine results, no clue where you got that from.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17020 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 3:53 pm to
Scapula is fractured.

Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48941 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 4:01 pm to
this thread makes me sad and angry at the same time
Posted by WDE01
In Da Heezy
Member since Aug 2009
383 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 4:03 pm to
I apologize to the board then...
I’m just ready for this whole era at AU to end. That is all, thanks ??
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34884 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

It’s been stated before that Russell takes a different approach. That was the whole reason Malzahn apparently brought him when he came.


What exactly does he do differently? All the major S&C programs implement crossfit into their program. You were confident enough to blame him for our injuries and called his arse to be fired, yet can't give a single example as to what specifically he is doing that is worse for our players than what is being done elsewhere around the SEC.

[quote]As for data, the only data that I can provide is from experience. I don’t have numbers for you, nor do I care to try to find any. The gym has been a part of my life for the majority of my life. I have been in many gyms in many different places, and have worked out with and around lots of different type people. From my experience, what I’ve seen,... there are more injuries to people who train that way than people who use a traditional S&C program

Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10938 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 4:45 pm to
DSOR?
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61641 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 4:49 pm to
The shoulder is the easiest bone in your body to damage. Has nothing to do with training. shite just happens sometimes.


Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48941 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 4:55 pm to
quote:

I apologize to the board then...
I’m just ready for this whole era at AU to end. That is all, thanks ??




my comment wasn't directed at you

i'm just upset about his injury
Posted by michaeldwde
N.C.
Member since Nov 2010
3186 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 5:00 pm to
Damnit...

fmAUl
Posted by The Nino
Member since Jan 2010
21521 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 5:00 pm to
I think everyone in this thread learned a valuable lesson today:


Don't Do Roids
Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
Member since Nov 2013
7436 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 5:08 pm to
quote:

The shoulder is the easiest bone in your body to damage. Has nothing to do with training. shite just happens sometimes.



I would suspect you're right about the shoulder joint, but Rhino5 posted some information at the top of the last page that said scapula breaks are less than 1% of bone breaks. I'm not sure the source of that information.

Bone breaks are also not something you can really train to avoid. Those injuries are just a matter of force and bone strength. I guess a training regiment could be blamed for its nutritional component not having the proper vitamins and minerals for healthy bones, but I would imagine all of the S&C programs in college sports are using similar data for bodily needs and only tweaking carb, protein, and fat loads for different body types.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3599 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 5:30 pm to
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We traditionally put up weak numbers at the combine, sorry not looking that up for you...



That is because you are 100% wrong. I follow the Combine every year. Auburn does very well. From Greg Robinson, Tre Mason, to Coates, Ricardo Louis, Angelo Blackson, Carl Lawson and even Jonathan Jones who tested among the best CB's in his class.

It even extends to guys like Cameron Artis-Payne, who ran a 4.53 (among the best times for RBs, faster than Ameer Abdullah at 4.60 and right there with Melvin Gordon, the Wisconsin RB who killed us and went mid first round to the Chargers) despite being labelled as "slow" his entire time at Auburn by internet fans.
This post was edited on 10/31/17 at 5:56 pm
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91645 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 5:36 pm to
Auburn has dealt with a lot of injuries. Some more serious than others, and some were definitely day-to-day types, but they still happened. Nothing out of the ordinary, IMO.

Kam Martin
Kam Pettway
Kerryon Johnson
Tray Matthews
Tre Williams
Deshaun Davis
Marlon Davidson
Nate Craig-Myers
Darius James
Casey Dunn
Darius Slayton
Posted by TigerPaw1
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Apr 2011
16979 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 5:45 pm to
I would genuinely be interested in looking at injuries per team just to get a feel of what's normal during a season. Problem is there isn't a central place for that type of info
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