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re: It's Worse Than You Think

Posted on 9/20/26 at 10:56 am to
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
32791 posts
Posted on 9/20/26 at 10:56 am to
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Granted we tackled very poorly and helped them a lot


Bad coaching.
This post was edited on 9/22/26 at 7:18 pm
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
22357 posts
Posted on 9/20/26 at 10:58 am to
Not at 30m but close I think it’s right around 27m. Which would put us somewhere around 10th or 11th in spending in the conference
Posted by pdfield34
Member since Aug 2022
702 posts
Posted on 9/20/26 at 10:58 am to
Meh, we've been bad and unenjoyable, but as far as quantifying anything and declaring we are rock bottom, no one else plays Alabama and Georgia every year. Even the teams in the top 8 don't beat them regularly over the time period. Schedule matters.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
14342 posts
Posted on 9/20/26 at 11:15 am to
I wouldn't blame Golesh for much yet. He hasn't had time to prove himself or even build up a team on the field. DJ has no excuse for his entire defense to be this bad.

Even with history what it is, we have had good players (even with like Bo Nix) that just haven't amounted to anything at Auburn. We have changed players and coaches and still stay in the same rut.

Just because we are Auburn isn't an excuse to lose or play so bad when we have players. The powers that be have to be playing into it in some manner that isn't picking us up.

Offensively the issue this year will be the rebuilt OLine. Defensively tackling drills and better pass coverage or we won't have a defense this year.
This post was edited on 9/20/26 at 11:17 am
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
24259 posts
Posted on 9/20/26 at 6:19 pm to
Maybe one day these coaches will figure out that offense and defense needs to be built from the lines out. We’ve sucked for far too long at the point of attack.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37882 posts
Posted on 9/20/26 at 6:24 pm to
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Maybe one day these coaches will figure out that offense and defense needs to be built from the lines out.


Golesh has talked a lot about how OL is important but built through experience and continuity in the system.

Auburn doesn't spend enough in NIL $ to buy a portal OL talent
Posted by Pat Dye 60 minutes
Member since Jun 2026
159 posts
Posted on 9/20/26 at 10:35 pm to
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This post was edited on 9/21/26 at 10:47 am
Posted by WarEagleWes
Eastaboga
Member since Oct 2014
653 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 4:54 pm to
Somehow Auburn has managed to get worse when NIL became a thing
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21718 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 9:00 pm to
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I checked the records of all SEC schools starting with 2021


why is 2021 the arbitrary number? Auburn hasn't been competitive on a regular basis since the early 2000's

Auburn vs SEC opponent record since 2008
Alabama 4–14
Arkansas 11–7
Florida 1–2
Georgia 3–16
Kentucky 4–2
LSU 5–11
MS State 10–6
Missouri 3–2
OK 0–2
Ole Miss 11–5
SC. 4–2
TN. 4–1
Texas 0–0
A&M 7–7
Vandy. 2–4

We have not only been non competitive with the top half of the league the past 20 years, a large chunk of those games involved us being run out of the building. When you look at the head to head versus the mid tier teams in the league, we are barely hanging onto a winning record. Even at the bottom of the league we are squeaking by and Vandy is currently owning us.

and just for fun..
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Auburn QB(s) since 2008
2008 Kodi Burns, Chris Todd
2009 Chris Todd
2010 Cam Newton
2011 Barrett Trotter, Clint Moseley
2012 Kiehl Frazier, Clint Moseley, Jonathan Wallace
2013 Nick Marshall, Jeremy Johnson
2014 Nick Marshall, Jeremy Johnson
2015 Jeremy Johnson, Sean White
2016 Sean White, John Franklin III, Jeremy Johnson
2017 Jarrett Stidham
2018 Jarrett Stidham
2019 Bo Nix
2020 Bo Nix
2021 Bo Nix, T.J. Finley
2022 T.J. Finley, Robby Ashford
2023 Payton Thorne
2024 Payton Thorne, Hank Brown
2025 Jackson Arnold, Ashton Daniels, Deuce Knight
2026 Byrum Brown (through Sept. 19)
Posted by Broadside Bob
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2012
1753 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 9:16 pm to
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i think many if us have been deliberately blind to the fact that firing Malzahn when we did was the mortal blow,


I really liked Gus...was the first one on the Gus Bus and ones of the very last off. I did think there needed to be a change: either he changes, or he's replaced. I thought he was fixable, but should you really have to "fix" a head coach, coach the coach so to speak? The answer to that is probably "no," and he may have been too stubborn to take the guidance anyway.

I've long wondered whether Gus was as much of an innovator as he got credit for, or was he just someone who did one thing that was innovative. There's a difference.

He did beat peak Nick Saban three times, and that's more than anyone else can say.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
31004 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 9:34 pm to
Gus wouldn’t have survived NIL, Saban quit because of it.


Golesh is another 3 year experiment making millions that won’t last. The Florida game was the worst coached team in many years.
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
13768 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 10:10 pm to
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2011 Barrett Trotter, Clint Moseley
2012 Kiehl Frazier, Clint Moseley, Jonathan Wallace
2015 Jeremy Johnson, Sean White
2016 Sean White, John Franklin III, Jeremy Johnson
2022 T.J. Finley, Robby Ashford
2023 Payton Thorne
2024 Payton Thorne, Hank Brown
2025 Jackson Arnold, Ashton Daniels,


This might be the worst collection of quarterbacks in the history of the SEC.
Posted by Jmcc64
alabama
Member since Apr 2021
2555 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:08 am to
Hoping that Golesh gets it. So far the jury's still out on his QB selection.
The previous coaches either were horrendous judges of QB talent(most likely) or thought they could make do with C- talent ("my scheme doesn't need a stud QB") or thought they could coach em up.
Posted by Hussss
Helena, AL
Member since Oct 2016
7946 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 9:38 am to
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Getting rid of Gus was and is still the correct thing to do. No one could have foreseen how shitty the AD’s, and money guys would be at choosing the next coach.


EXACTLY

Pat Dye used to have the biggest say in who we hired

Since he passed away, the clown show took over and picked wrong coach after wrong coach

Our program died when Pat died

And John Cohen is one big JINX (isn’t it amazing how Miss State’s entire athletic department took off to the upside after Cohen left!!!)

Golesh will get all this shite fixed

Here’s how I know:

He is humble and willing to adapt unlike the other bozos we have had as HC with HUGE EGOS and are never wrong and think they are smarter than anyone in the room!
This post was edited on 9/22/26 at 10:10 am
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21718 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 1:19 pm to
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This might be the worst collection of quarterbacks in the history of the SEC.


Can’t argue with that. You can trace the erosion of the program as a whole all the way back to the beginning of atrocious qb play and development. The program has been a dumpster fire for 20 years but most didn’t notice the flames until Harsin arrived
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
20477 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 1:43 pm to
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This might be the worst collection of quarterbacks in the history of the SEC.
whats even more egregious is the lack of any decent backups

people talk about how much better a roster Gustav left Harsin while ignoring the fact that Nix’s backups were Grant Loy, Sawyer Pate and Cord Sandberg, with a combined 3 career pass attempts
Posted by marshallcotiger
Member since Dec 2009
8549 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 3:10 pm to
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but firing him when we did was a massive mistake


That's the part people leave out. Gus was on his way out but firing him in the financial position we were in left us with few options. In hindsight we would have been better off either riding out two more seasons with Gus or making Steele the HC until we were ready to make a run at another high level HC
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
14604 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 4:42 pm to
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Auburn vs SEC opponent record since 2008
Alabama 4–14
Arkansas 11–7
Florida 1–2
Georgia 3–16
Kentucky 4–2
LSU 5–11
MS State 10–6
Missouri 3–2
OK 0–2
Ole Miss 11–5
SC. 4–2
TN. 4–1
Texas 0–0
A&M 7–7
Vandy 2-4


Wow, what a depressing list. Out of all of that futility, what hurts me the most is UGA. At one point, before they went on a run, the series was even in wins and even in points scored. It was the epitome of a rivalry.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21718 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 6:54 pm to
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Wow, what a depressing list.


its even worse when you flip 2010 and the wackiness that ended the 2013 season. Probably going 0 and 3 vs Bama, UGA and LSU in 2010 and 0 and 2 vs Bama and UGA in 2013.. That leaves the program 2-16 vs Bama and 1-16 vs UGA AND 4-12 vs LSU when you remove the Cam and Nick qb outliers.Twenty years of bad football is hard to stomach when you realize how bad its been. We've never recovered from the Tony Franklin experiment
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
20477 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:42 pm to
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We've never recovered from Bama hiring Saban
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