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Posted on 9/20/26 at 7:42 am
Posted on 9/20/26 at 7:42 am
I ran some numbers. I checked the records of all SEC schools starting with 2021 and ending with this week. I omitted OU and TX since they weren't in the league the whole time, so this will be a list of 14:
1) Georgia: 68-7, 37-3 (SEC) - 2 natties, 3 SEC titles, 4 playoff appearances.
2) Bama: 59-14, 34-7 (SEC) - 2 SEC titles, 3 playoff appearances, 3-4 post-season
3) Ole Miss: 55-15, 29-12 (SEC) - 1 playoff appearance, 4-3 post-season
4) Tennessee: 48-20, 24-16 (SEC) - 1 playoff, 2-3 post-season
5) LSU: 42-25, 23-18 (SEC) - 3-2 bowl record.
6) Mizzou: 44-24, 21-19 (SEC) - 2-3 bowl record
7) Texas A&M: 41-25, 22-19 (SEC) - 1 playoff appearance, 0-3 post-season
8) Carolina: 35-31, 16-25 (SEC) - 1-2 bowl record
9) Kentucky: 35-31, 15-27 (SEC) - 1-2 bowl record
10) Florida: 32-34, 15-26 (SEC) - 1-2 bowl record
11) MSU: 31-35, 11-30 (SEC) - 1-2 bowl record
12) Arkansas: 30-36, 11-30 (SEC) - 3-0 bowl record
13) Vandy: 29-36, 11-29 (SEC) - 1-1 bowl record
14) Auburn: 29-36, 11-30 (SEC) - 0-2 bowl record
Auburn is the only team not to have even one winning season. In fact, all the schools, except Florida, have had at least 2 winning seasons. Moreover, all schools (except UF and AU) have had 9 win seasons. Even lowly KY and Vandy both have had a 10 win season.
Auburn is tied with Vandy for only going to two bowls. Auburn and TAMU are the only schools not to win a bowl since 2021 (but TAMU did make it to the CFP). In fact, AU hasn't won a bowl since 2018 which is the longest winless streak in the SEC.
Conclusion:
AU has been (objectively) the worst football program in the SEC since Bryan Harsin was hired. I knew we were close to the bottom, but we're actually dead last in almost every category. This is despite AU being about 7th or so in NIL spending.
1) Georgia: 68-7, 37-3 (SEC) - 2 natties, 3 SEC titles, 4 playoff appearances.
2) Bama: 59-14, 34-7 (SEC) - 2 SEC titles, 3 playoff appearances, 3-4 post-season
3) Ole Miss: 55-15, 29-12 (SEC) - 1 playoff appearance, 4-3 post-season
4) Tennessee: 48-20, 24-16 (SEC) - 1 playoff, 2-3 post-season
5) LSU: 42-25, 23-18 (SEC) - 3-2 bowl record.
6) Mizzou: 44-24, 21-19 (SEC) - 2-3 bowl record
7) Texas A&M: 41-25, 22-19 (SEC) - 1 playoff appearance, 0-3 post-season
8) Carolina: 35-31, 16-25 (SEC) - 1-2 bowl record
9) Kentucky: 35-31, 15-27 (SEC) - 1-2 bowl record
10) Florida: 32-34, 15-26 (SEC) - 1-2 bowl record
11) MSU: 31-35, 11-30 (SEC) - 1-2 bowl record
12) Arkansas: 30-36, 11-30 (SEC) - 3-0 bowl record
13) Vandy: 29-36, 11-29 (SEC) - 1-1 bowl record
14) Auburn: 29-36, 11-30 (SEC) - 0-2 bowl record
Auburn is the only team not to have even one winning season. In fact, all the schools, except Florida, have had at least 2 winning seasons. Moreover, all schools (except UF and AU) have had 9 win seasons. Even lowly KY and Vandy both have had a 10 win season.
Auburn is tied with Vandy for only going to two bowls. Auburn and TAMU are the only schools not to win a bowl since 2021 (but TAMU did make it to the CFP). In fact, AU hasn't won a bowl since 2018 which is the longest winless streak in the SEC.
Conclusion:
AU has been (objectively) the worst football program in the SEC since Bryan Harsin was hired. I knew we were close to the bottom, but we're actually dead last in almost every category. This is despite AU being about 7th or so in NIL spending.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 7:52 am to AUstar
I said it yesterday. We are the worst team in the sec since Harsin was hired.
Dead last.
Glad we made these moves.
Dead last.
Glad we made these moves.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 7:53 am to AUstar
People are too busy exemplifying the rare occasions when mediocrity works as tbough it's the standard.
Cignettit proved the STANDARD is still high.
I remember when Auburn tore Penn State's Larry Johnson a new one after he talked shite. Today we crown similar RBs king.
Today doesn't have to be different. frick mediocrity
Cignettit proved the STANDARD is still high.
I remember when Auburn tore Penn State's Larry Johnson a new one after he talked shite. Today we crown similar RBs king.
Today doesn't have to be different. frick mediocrity
This post was edited on 9/20/26 at 7:55 am
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:01 am to AUstar
quote:fify
AU has been (objectively) the worst football program in the SEC since Gustavo Malzahn was fired
i think many if us have been deliberately blind to the fact that firing Malzahn when we did was the mortal blow, not the hiring of the meathead who replaced him
of course its easier to see in hindsight, not knowing that the chaos of NIL/free agency would begin in earnest prior to the next season, but dismissing a modestly successful HC (overlooking his miserable road record against our chief rivals) at the end of one of the weirdest seasons in the history of the sport was not only a huge unforced error by our braindead GOBs, it was extremely expensive to boot
we should have listened to those wise voices (looking at you, Lanier) who warned us of the potential damage from that now obvious colossal blunder
i questioned the timing as i recall, but agreed we needed a change - i can freely admit i was dead wrong
mea culpa, as the kids say
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:11 am to jangalang
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frick mediocrity
Keep banging that drum brother.
Bang it with both hands
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:19 am to FearlessFreep
Gus was an emerging disaster.He was getting worse by the year. You can’t ignore the offense line and defense….hoping to survive another year.
Face it, you all bought into the hype….without a down having been played.
I see shades of Bo Nix, take the snap, then run like hell.
No running backs behind this line. Pass routes slowly develop. Defense missing from last year.
Better pray they get better fast.
Face it, you all bought into the hype….without a down having been played.
I see shades of Bo Nix, take the snap, then run like hell.
No running backs behind this line. Pass routes slowly develop. Defense missing from last year.
Better pray they get better fast.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:40 am to bluedragon
We have RBs, but they get no blocking. The entire defense (except the LB'ers) is terrible. The d-line is especially poor.
Durkin must be busy looking for G6 head coaching jobs because he sure isn't the same guy as the past two years. Yes, he has always given up 3rd and long, but he always tightened up when it mattered. Now he lets them score at will.
Florida is pretty good on offense, but AU will face several better offenses this season (and far better defenses). 5-7 is the best we can hope for.
Durkin must be busy looking for G6 head coaching jobs because he sure isn't the same guy as the past two years. Yes, he has always given up 3rd and long, but he always tightened up when it mattered. Now he lets them score at will.
Florida is pretty good on offense, but AU will face several better offenses this season (and far better defenses). 5-7 is the best we can hope for.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:42 am to bluedragon
quote:thats precisely the kind of thinking that got us where we are today
Gus was an emerging disaster.He was getting worse by the year. You can’t ignore the offense line and defense….hoping to survive another year.
i agree that we were declining under Gustav - but firing him when we did was a massive mistake
and everything bad that’s happened to the program since then has flowed from that one awful decision
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:54 am to bluedragon
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Better pray they get better fast.
The new Auburn Creed, right there
Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:19 am to AUstar
This isn’t worse than what I think.
I posted last night we have switched spots with ole Miss and miss state. We have become that bad. We no longer are a team our rivals hate to play. We no longer enjoy a home advantage that gives us an automatic 7 point advantage. Not gonna lie, it hurts.
I posted last night we have switched spots with ole Miss and miss state. We have become that bad. We no longer are a team our rivals hate to play. We no longer enjoy a home advantage that gives us an automatic 7 point advantage. Not gonna lie, it hurts.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:27 am to bluedragon
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Gus was an emerging disaster.He was getting worse by the year. You can’t ignore the offense line and defense….hoping to survive another year.
This is correct.
A lot of us look back at the Gus years with orange and blue tinted glasses, and he did have some big wins early. But, he also had some ugly losses. Remember when he trotted Sean White out against UGA with a shoulder so bad that he couldn’t throw when he had unhurt QBs on the sideline? Remember his insistence of running up the middle on first down again and again?
Gus’ fatal flaw was his belief that he was always the smartest guy in the room. He refused to adjust his offense, even when opposing coaches were correctly predicting the play on the sideline based on the personnel on the field.
Rule changes and DC familiarity with his offense were his undoing, along with his insistence of recruiting drop back passers for his zone read offense. He also couldn’t get a high school offensive lineman to sign with us because other teams negatively recruited against us and said that his offense didn’t prepare them for the NFL.
Through all this, he refused to adapt. He believed that if his offense ran his play call to perfection, no defense could stop it.
He was a good coach and is a good man, but our decline began in his later years and has increased to a free fall since he left.
Should he have gotten a mulligan after 2020? Maybe. Would he have changed anything? Doubtful…
This post was edited on 9/20/26 at 9:30 am
Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:31 am to Placekicker
Getting rid of Gus was and is still the correct thing to do. No one could have foreseen how shitty the AD’s, and money guys would be at choosing the next coach.
This post was edited on 9/20/26 at 9:52 am
Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:34 am to LanierSpots
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I said it yesterday. We are the worst team in the sec since Harsin was hired…
…Dead last
Posted on 9/20/26 at 10:05 am to AUstar
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AU has been (objectively) the worst football program in the SEC since John Cohen was hired.
Fify
Posted on 9/20/26 at 10:18 am to AUstar
And yet everyone here acts like AU football is top tier and lose their shite if every single thing isnt perfect, because muh 2010 and 2013.
Most of my entire life Auburn football was 8-9 wins during peak years. And lucky to make a bowl game every other year.
You can DEMAND results all you want. You can whine and cry and say fire everyone every 3 years like you have with everyone since tuberville. Even during the fear the thumb years most of you had the same mentality.....Nobody knows what theyre doing, coaches suck. AD sucks, wah wah wah wah.
At the end of the day, the program has never been top tier, and it never will be because no one will ever be allowed to build the program thanks to the "fanbase"
It's not " worse than I think"
It's the same as it's always been.
Keep pretending AU football is elite.
Keep demanding 10+ wins from people and ignore the fact that its happened 10 times in the past 40 years.
When they do have a few years of 10+ wins, bitch anyway about how its not enough and " can be better"
Most importantly, every time AU football misses on a big name coach
.. whatever you do... blame everyone but yourself.
Remember " we could have had... if not for.."
Its your entire lifes mantra.
Most of my entire life Auburn football was 8-9 wins during peak years. And lucky to make a bowl game every other year.
You can DEMAND results all you want. You can whine and cry and say fire everyone every 3 years like you have with everyone since tuberville. Even during the fear the thumb years most of you had the same mentality.....Nobody knows what theyre doing, coaches suck. AD sucks, wah wah wah wah.
At the end of the day, the program has never been top tier, and it never will be because no one will ever be allowed to build the program thanks to the "fanbase"
It's not " worse than I think"
It's the same as it's always been.
Keep pretending AU football is elite.
Keep demanding 10+ wins from people and ignore the fact that its happened 10 times in the past 40 years.
When they do have a few years of 10+ wins, bitch anyway about how its not enough and " can be better"
Most importantly, every time AU football misses on a big name coach
.. whatever you do... blame everyone but yourself.
Remember " we could have had... if not for.."
Its your entire lifes mantra.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 10:19 am to AUstar
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Auburn is the only team not to have even one winning season. In fact, all the schools, except Florida, have had at least 2 winning seasons. Moreover, all schools (except UF and AU) have had 9 win seasons.
Out of everything listed, THIS is what bothers me the most.
Because both Florida and Auburn arrived last night in very similar situations. Both have had a shittastic stretch the last five years. Both brought in new coaching staffs. Both brought in new players through the portal and NIL. Both promised to build into a new direction.
And Florida TROUNCED us.
It would be one thing if we fought a close battle until the very end. And I am proud our guys kept competing to make the score respectable.
But anyone who watched that game knows Florida outclassed us. Out coached us. Out schemed us. Out talented us. Better toughness and aggressiveness. More drive. Quicker response to adversity.
All the things you need for a competitive football team, they had. Auburn? Same ole shite.
But we’ll say “give him time!” As if it’s 2009 when you need a few recruiting classes and multiple years of coaching your system to see any results.
I’m not expecting 12-2 but I am expecting to not look like stinky bullshite.
This post was edited on 9/20/26 at 10:22 am
Posted on 9/20/26 at 10:37 am to AUstar
And I we're gonna suck at basketball too...
Auburn will be good at nothing. Now Koivun is gone, I wonder how Golf will be.
Auburn will be good at nothing. Now Koivun is gone, I wonder how Golf will be.
This post was edited on 9/20/26 at 10:55 am
Posted on 9/20/26 at 10:45 am to AUstar
Between HCs, QBs and OLine nothing has worked right.
It's obvious whoever is sitting up top deciding who we play and hire sucks very bad at it. If they care about the school they needs to go crawl under a rock and let someone else decide for things.
It's amazing they can watch a game after so long still think they are making the right choices.
It's obvious whoever is sitting up top deciding who we play and hire sucks very bad at it. If they care about the school they needs to go crawl under a rock and let someone else decide for things.
It's amazing they can watch a game after so long still think they are making the right choices.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 10:50 am to Gusoline
Most of the post in this thread are pretty good.
But your take is hot garbage. Yes Auburn has been an 8-9 win team but most of its history was in a 10 game schedule.
Auburn isn’t a top 5 team or brand but you damn well know it’s a Top 10-12 program in its history. That’s elite brother. And while also considered to have played the most difficult schedule year over year throughout its history. The last 7-8 years doesn’t take away from what Auburn is.
I think Golesh is a pretty good coach he hasn’t gone up against the best of the best week after week. I had no expectations really of this team other than to be really really good at linebacker. I thought the DL would be a hair better. I knew we were gonna take a big hit in the DB room.
Yall crapping on Durkin is insane. He’s had what 2 subpar games the past 2 seasons Vandy and last night. Hell I don’t know UF looks pretty damn solid to me. Granted we tackled very poorly and helped them a lot.
I knew the offense was going to be a work in progress because of pure lack of true sec type talent. Brown has started each game about as bad as you can start them. He hits his stride around the 2nd quarter and we are able to move the ball.
We are where we are. But we need to be getting 4-5 elite talent in big school recruiting and filling in the others in the class with good players.
But this falls on the athletic department and donors/boosters. Going forward are we gonna penny pinch and spend around 10th or 11th in money to players or are we gonna spent money to get us in the Top 5 of the SEC in spending. Until that happens it is what it is. Our NIL collective is a joke. I was once a member and contributor. We barely have 3000 members. Even shite history schools like Ole Miss have over 15000 in their NIL collective.
It’s pro football and if you don’t want to spend with your “equals” then you will lose to them.
Granted last years talent level was top 7ish in the conference and we still shite the bed.
I can say as a never NFL fan I didn’t like it one because I didn’t like players moving around to different teams and players making 30 million a season. And now that’s what big time college football is and I’m losing interest each day. I will always be an Auburn fan but college athletics is a mockery of what college sports are supposed to be about.
But your take is hot garbage. Yes Auburn has been an 8-9 win team but most of its history was in a 10 game schedule.
Auburn isn’t a top 5 team or brand but you damn well know it’s a Top 10-12 program in its history. That’s elite brother. And while also considered to have played the most difficult schedule year over year throughout its history. The last 7-8 years doesn’t take away from what Auburn is.
I think Golesh is a pretty good coach he hasn’t gone up against the best of the best week after week. I had no expectations really of this team other than to be really really good at linebacker. I thought the DL would be a hair better. I knew we were gonna take a big hit in the DB room.
Yall crapping on Durkin is insane. He’s had what 2 subpar games the past 2 seasons Vandy and last night. Hell I don’t know UF looks pretty damn solid to me. Granted we tackled very poorly and helped them a lot.
I knew the offense was going to be a work in progress because of pure lack of true sec type talent. Brown has started each game about as bad as you can start them. He hits his stride around the 2nd quarter and we are able to move the ball.
We are where we are. But we need to be getting 4-5 elite talent in big school recruiting and filling in the others in the class with good players.
But this falls on the athletic department and donors/boosters. Going forward are we gonna penny pinch and spend around 10th or 11th in money to players or are we gonna spent money to get us in the Top 5 of the SEC in spending. Until that happens it is what it is. Our NIL collective is a joke. I was once a member and contributor. We barely have 3000 members. Even shite history schools like Ole Miss have over 15000 in their NIL collective.
It’s pro football and if you don’t want to spend with your “equals” then you will lose to them.
Granted last years talent level was top 7ish in the conference and we still shite the bed.
I can say as a never NFL fan I didn’t like it one because I didn’t like players moving around to different teams and players making 30 million a season. And now that’s what big time college football is and I’m losing interest each day. I will always be an Auburn fan but college athletics is a mockery of what college sports are supposed to be about.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 10:53 am to AUstar
Auburn is paying $30M this year to be the shittiest team in the SEC. 
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