re: Is this really happening at AU?

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Well for one, Auburn is a land grant institute funded in part by state tax dollars. 27% of AL's population is Black and help pay for a university with only about 4% representation.

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So the tax base determines ratios now? Is that with everything that the tax base represents. Once again, I do not get that thinking. Using that thinking, 73% of the tax population is white so 73% of the tax income set aside for low income help should go to white people. Is that the same thinking?

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And yes, Auburn's leadership and donor class has systematically capped the number of black students that have been admitted since integration. There have been groups who have worked to change that since the 70s with very little progress.

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I am not saying that didnt happen at one time and its a shite situation but in todays time, I just dont believe that man. I may be in the dark but I just dont see that happen. Id bet more of the reason the population is low is due to incredibly high tuition and being able to qualify. Not some white guy up front thrown black names off a list.

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Please post any shred of evidence to this statement. I'm truly interested if this is indeed fact. Which I'm sure it isn't but want to see if there is something I don't know here.

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I'm pretty sure you aren't "truly interested" in evidence since you go ahead and dismiss it in your next sentence. And since you only believe racism is either George Wallace standing in a doorway or it doesn't exist, I'm not sure you're equipped to have this conversation. No offense, truly.

But for anyone who is you could check out AU's 2005 Strategic Diversity Plan and that states one thing while the black enrollment between 2007-2017 declines by 27%. All of this is on Auburn's website if you search. Or you could talk to student members of this last 'Diversity Taskforce" and find out conversations they've had with high ranking AU officials on why these numbers wont change.

But CJ I do agree that this isn't necessarily about racism so much as it's about what the donor class think Auburn should look like. They love black people at least in JH on Saturdays. They just don't want to walk around campus and think they're at Tuskegee.

And by the way, Tuskegee is a private school and twice as much as Auburn. So the idea that black students are picking TU because of money is inaccurate. Plus enrollment is like 2300 students and 2/3s are probably women. Just fyi

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But why? Why should it "be three tines that"? Why should anything be more black or more white?

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Because the university should be representative of the state.

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Do you know "why" the is? And why should the university "figure something" out?

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The why is easy, we are recruiting more out of state kids whos parents can afford the OOS tuition. Those kids tend to be more white.

The university (really more the state) need to better prepare the in state kids for success at the in state Ag school. This shouldn't be in the form of quotas, but instead selling Auburn to kids from the state and providing them with the tools they need to succeed at AU. Right now nearly 40% of students are from OOS, that number needs to be closer to 20%.

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You might benefit from talking to some black alum ( especially engineering alumni) who have kids that were never recruited by AU or got accepted into Auburn at the last minute but had full rides to Duke, Vandy, Harvard, etc.

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I have a hard time believing that as well.

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That's not exclusively a minority problem. It's an AU problem. I know of a white family it happened to.

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True! Auburn isn't great at recruiting legacy kids even on the football field. The problem is that there are so few black alum compared to the generations of white alum. When AU misses out on highly qualified legacy kids of a black alum, it typically ends any chance for that family to build a legacy at AU since the parents were most likely the first to attend.

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The why is easy, we are recruiting more out of state kids whos parents can afford the OOS tuition. Those kids tend to be more white.

The university (really more the state) need to better prepare the in state kids for success at the in state Ag school. This shouldn't be in the form of quotas, but instead selling Auburn to kids from the state and providing them with the tools they need to succeed at AU. Right now nearly 40% of students are from OOS, that number needs to be closer to 20%.

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I agree to all of this.


We can say the state is failing a big part as we can say the parents are failing their own kids as well.

But I still do not feel it is Auburns responsibility to "bring in more black kids" because the ratio is low. Unless there is some kind of sorting before hand which there is no evidence of.

The best kids should be admitted. Regardless of what color they are. Same with the foot ball team, basketball team and all of the other sports.

Bring in the most deserving, what ever their background

Sour Cream Citizens and mayosapiens are pretty funny, ngl

"ashy, but you can't see it" got me too, but it doesn't roll off the tongue and isn't efficient as a slur

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People don't want to hear your leftist dogma so they just can't smart enough to to have this conversation.

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What people really don't want to hear is anything that makes them feel bad about being mediocre. Not saying this applies to you or anyone here. But stating talking points as fact without even trying to check for accuracy is just silly.

I didn’t bring up Tuskegee. I brought up cost and many white students are choosing other avenues as well like going Juco for 2 years.

Not every white person has money. I’ve said many time I grew up dirt fricking poor.