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re: Honest Opinion Thread (CFB Season)
Posted on 8/12/20 at 9:20 pm to GenesChin
Posted on 8/12/20 at 9:20 pm to GenesChin
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but the reports I've seen point towards the huge liability + long term amateurism consequences.
We’ve gone through 2 World Wars, Spanish flu, and the Great Depression and football was never cancelled
Posted on 8/12/20 at 9:55 pm to LanierSpots
You can jump off that high horse you're riding Lanier. Ask me to clarify before throwing out some bitch statement that I’m guessing makes you feel like you did your public service for the day or something.
There is an honesty issue throughout our political system that is causing a lot of distrust no matter which way you lean politically over the virus. The virus is real and it would be nice, no, it’s vital, although impossible into today’s climate, to get honesty from all political entities, media, and agencies under political control when it comes to a very serious issue like Covid. I absolutely believe it’s real. I also believe there is embellishment taking place to a certain degree, reporting of stats, both under and over, misinformation, etc.
I believe the election year, with so much on the line, has distorted a lot surrounding the virus. I am not going to spend a lot of time laying it out here why I think that, but if you can’t accept a person may have slightly skeptical view on everything covid, and not trusting everything being disseminated. Then you’re right we probably can’t have a proper discussion. Political play on covid is happening, I can assure you.
There is an honesty issue throughout our political system that is causing a lot of distrust no matter which way you lean politically over the virus. The virus is real and it would be nice, no, it’s vital, although impossible into today’s climate, to get honesty from all political entities, media, and agencies under political control when it comes to a very serious issue like Covid. I absolutely believe it’s real. I also believe there is embellishment taking place to a certain degree, reporting of stats, both under and over, misinformation, etc.
I believe the election year, with so much on the line, has distorted a lot surrounding the virus. I am not going to spend a lot of time laying it out here why I think that, but if you can’t accept a person may have slightly skeptical view on everything covid, and not trusting everything being disseminated. Then you’re right we probably can’t have a proper discussion. Political play on covid is happening, I can assure you.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 10:00 pm to Sigma
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Stick to football, coach.
Knowledge is power don't ya know.
Sorry to burst your bubble that you think by putting on a mask that you're saving meemaw but facts are facts. So suck it up butter cup.
Any for your information I've tried talking football on here no one seems to have any interest in discussing why a play is designed a certain way or why on a double move deep post that an "idiot" offensive coach would have a WR motion into the orbit motion to help in that play if the design is to hit the post.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 10:00 pm to GenesChin
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College sports has been driven by big money for years now.
No Season = Guaranteed Loss of Revenue
The liability issue remains for universities whether they play the season or not.
They still have students on campus. Big10/PAC12 teams have still vowed to have players train on campus.
I don't understand the logic of not playing...
Posted on 8/12/20 at 10:02 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
wrong board
(you not read the chicken scratch about preaching politics in other places than the political board)
(you not read the chicken scratch about preaching politics in other places than the political board)
Posted on 8/12/20 at 10:05 pm to awestruck
frick off
ETA: you’re not wrong but I didn’t want to explain why I wrote what I did. Haha
ETA: you’re not wrong but I didn’t want to explain why I wrote what I did. Haha
This post was edited on 8/12/20 at 10:16 pm
Posted on 8/12/20 at 10:05 pm to CorchJay
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a double move deep post that an "idiot" offensive coach would have a WR motion into the orbit motion to help in that play if the design is to hit the post
I'm sure your team has a trophy case full of blue maps with this kind of brilliance.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 10:10 pm to BuckFama334
Logic left this country 4 years ago. Either side of the isle take your pick.
Everything, including college football, has been hyper politicized.
Prophecy from 2000 years ago. Romans 1:28 ..."God gave them over to a reprobate mind"...
Everything, including college football, has been hyper politicized.
Prophecy from 2000 years ago. Romans 1:28 ..."God gave them over to a reprobate mind"...
Posted on 8/12/20 at 10:17 pm to BuckFama334
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I'm sure your team has a trophy case full of blue maps with this kind of brilliance
Actually yes... but not in football was just an OC for a high school. I'm a head baseball coach but don't enjoy discussing college baseball. As far as baseball, as a player, as a dad coach, and a high school coach I have been a part of 7 state baseball championships. 2 as a player, 3 as a dad coach in travel ball, and 2 as a high school coach.
enough about me... So mr genius buckfama... What is the purpose other then "eye candy" is the orbit motion on the play?
This post was edited on 8/12/20 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 8/12/20 at 10:34 pm to BuckFama334
They are such a low risk group for COVID that the fact that this is controversial is evidence of mass hysteria.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:11 pm to CorchJay
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What is the purpose other then "eye candy" is the orbit motion on the play
and just like that POOF they disappear
Posted on 8/13/20 at 5:12 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Surely you can see all the politics being played behind the curtain of the Covid virus?
I find it really unlikely that any football school president / AD puts their job on the line to make a political move that scores then personally no points
I find it very likely that if amateurism is threatened or if massive liability from lawsuits is possible, they will cancel the season.
My company announced work from home is staying till at least 2021. It isn't political, it is purely liability related and company doesn't want to deal with the crap from it
Posted on 8/13/20 at 6:08 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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You can jump off that high horse you're riding Lanier. Ask me to clarify before throwing out some bitch statement that I’m guessing makes you feel like you did your public service for the day or something.
But I like my high horse rock. Feels good. I am nothing if not a public servant.
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There is an honesty issue throughout our political system that is causing a lot of distrust no matter which way you lean politically over the virus. The virus is real and it would be nice, no, it’s vital, although impossible into today’s climate, to get honesty from all political entities, media, and agencies under political control when it comes to a very serious issue like Covid. I absolutely believe it’s real. I also believe there is embellishment taking place to a certain degree, reporting of stats, both under and over, misinformation, etc.
I believe the election year, with so much on the line, has distorted a lot surrounding the virus. I am not going to spend a lot of time laying it out here why I think that, but if you can’t accept a person may have slightly skeptical view on everything covid, and not trusting everything being disseminated. Then you’re right we probably can’t have a proper discussion. Political play on covid is happening, I can assure you.
I 100% agree with every statement of this. You are correct
My point being, Election year or not, there would be a discussion about playing this years season if the virus was there. Even though we cant believe the media, the schools still have to make a decision based on medical advice they are getting from their own staff. I honestly dont think the people in charge of these programs are getting their medical advice from CNN or Fox News.
I think it is more of a liability thing for them. Which is the real issue
Posted on 8/13/20 at 7:37 am to LanierSpots
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My point being, Election year or not, there would be a discussion about playing this years season if the virus was there. Even though we cant believe the media, the schools still have to make a decision based on medical advice they are getting from their own staff. I honestly dont think the people in charge of these programs are getting their medical advice from CNN or Fox News.
I agree with this, and I don’t think anyone is suggesting the SEC or any other conference is taking medical advice from a cable news organization. That’s just ridiculous.
However, the point made that the liability of the school remains high just by their presence on campus. That liability isn’t going away because football is cancelled. They have opt out options for players who don’t feel comfortable with it, and other measures of testing, distancing, etc. I don’t deny I am of the, we are a country of freedom, mindset. Layout what is known, risks, measures of mitigation, and let me and others make a choice. Shutting everything down is not a viable solution.
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But I like my high horse rock. Feels good. I am nothing if not a public servant.
Great, a socially conscious fishing guide on a horse, riding throughout Flower Branch exclaiming, “The Virus is Real! Bitches!” “Now pour your best and let’s drink!”
Posted on 8/13/20 at 7:59 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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However, the point made that the liability of the school remains high just by their presence on campus. That liability isn’t going away because football is cancelled.
I don't understand the liability issue here. Students aren't forced to be there. They could take a semester or two off. Athletes can say they felt forced to be there if they bring a suit against a University.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 8:04 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Great, a socially conscious fishing guide on a horse, riding throughout Flower Branch exclaiming, “The Virus is Real! Bitches!” “Now pour your best and let’s drink!”
I am not going to lie. That sounds fun as hell. I will hold on to that one when the time comes.
I personally would not want the responsibility that will come with opening the season right now. Things are so unstable, it can come back to bite them. Yes, kids at school are just as at risk but they have a honest choice. Virtual or go to class.
I dont think athletes will agree that there is a "real" choice if they decide not to play and the season opens. Just look at this board for the past few days. The Big 10 says they will not play and everyone is calling them pussies and ragging the shite out of them.
Now put that same pressure on a single player and see what happens. Lets say the SEC says we play and Bo Nix decides not to play. What kind of situation do you think that would put him in? Then if some player decides to play and gets a life altering situation because of the virus, what kind of lawsuit do you think will be filled?
Im in no way saying the season should not happen. I think it should. Im just saying there are major risks for the decision makers and those risks are not there because of a election early in November
Posted on 8/13/20 at 8:43 am to LanierSpots
Well, they do have a real choice and the chatter of angry or frustrated fans won’t alter their choice they make is best for their long term health. What you and I would do or wouldn’t do personally will have no bearing on any of it. A large majority of players want to play and a choice should be given. If they all choose to sit then they sit.
Most of what you see are people hoping for some normalcy to return to their lives. There may be grumbling and passioned responses but if the decision is no football, eventually all will get back to life, but they will have their opinion even if it’s whack. We will never have a 100% solution for this virus. Hell, we still lose 20-80,000 to common flu yearly with vaccines, medications, etc. anyway. Looks like we can have a discussion after all. Haha And hang on to the reins bro, I hear it’s a good drop off of high horses.
Most of what you see are people hoping for some normalcy to return to their lives. There may be grumbling and passioned responses but if the decision is no football, eventually all will get back to life, but they will have their opinion even if it’s whack. We will never have a 100% solution for this virus. Hell, we still lose 20-80,000 to common flu yearly with vaccines, medications, etc. anyway. Looks like we can have a discussion after all. Haha And hang on to the reins bro, I hear it’s a good drop off of high horses.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 10:24 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
I want a season but also look at it in reality. The only reason why it would be played is because of money. A lot of states don’t even allow people to go to church. A protected first amendment right both to religious freedom and assembly. How can you justify football over people’s God.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 11:47 am to CorchJay
quote:So much for Constitutionally protected rights.
A lot of states don’t even allow people to go to church.
quote:How about getting on with life.
The only reason why it would be played is because of money.
quote:There is NO justification for taking away your Constitutional rights. None.
How can you justify football over people’s God.
Play fricking football. Stop living life in fear or subservience
Posted on 8/13/20 at 11:51 am to ChexMix
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There is NO justification for taking away your Constitutional rights. None.
Not sure that's exactly correct.
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