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BranTheHuman2
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Are we supposed to listen to ignorance because listening to the "woke" people is just ignorance in my opinion.


So millions of black people are ignorant to you? Black human beings ask for your help and you don't just ignore them, you get pissy and call them ignorant?

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What system is in place that is racist? 


Criminal justice, banking, education, etc. I mean, are you just trying to ignore how this country has worked for centuries?

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Don't give me anything from before 1970


Why not? White people received preferential treatment and generational wealth for decades. Black people never got so much as an apology for slavery, segregation, red lining, gerrymandering, our criminal justice system, etc. That stuff builds on itself for generations.

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there are over 800,000 black millionaires in the US.


And what percentage of the black population is that compared to the white population? How many were because of affirmative action, that was only put in place because the system had clearly been keeping them down, and without protests and speaking out would have never been a thing to begin with?


BuckFama334
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Make sure you vote Biden/Harris. They are going to change the game and transform Black American lives for the better.

Same Democrat lie they have been selling for 50 years and y'all just keep eating it up...


The Nino
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CorchJay
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Ok I was done with this conversation but I’ll play along. Let me spell it out this way anyone who thinks America is racist in 2020 is ignorant!!! Regardless if it’s 1 person or millions. That doesn’t mean there aren’t racist people in America and racist people in power positions.

There are no racist laws now. If there is point it out to me. How is the criminal justice system racist. There are sentencing limits that judges have to go by so don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. Banking? You’re joking right lol. That tired old argument. Education I have already addressed prior. Education is screwed up for everyone black white yellow brown red whatever.

Was slavery a blot on our society absolutely but Americans are the first group of people to let their “slaves” go free. All other slave situations have required outside influences to do away with it. Horrible stain on our history. Did your family have slaves? My family did not on either side.

I can tell you now I grew up dirt poor and I mean dirt poor. Powdered milk poor, homemade syrup (sugar water vanilla flavoring), something called whole cake as a pancake, no dinners out, luckily had 1 tv in the house. No eating out. No movies no trips to the skating rinks nothing. My first car cost $400 paid for by me. I worked as a brick mason helper at age 11-14 on the weekends, I worked at the country store from 14-28, I entered into my real lifejob at 23 but didn’t make enough to survive with a wife and a child so still worked every Sunday from 6a-8p at that same country store I grew up working at. Generational wealth my ass. You don’t understand poor. So are you saying America should pay reparations? From whom and to whom? I’ve never benefited from slavery... My family didn’t own slaves. No one alive has been a slave to get paid back. Horrible injustice I agree. Wasn’t only whites that owned slaves. Black landowners in the south actually had slaves at a higher percentage then white land owners. You might want to look at history a little and study Anthony Johnson and John Casor. Anthony Johnson was the first US slave owner. Also a black man.

The 800,000 is between 6-8%. Not a complete representation of the appx 13% black population. Why is that I have no idea. Maybe culturally. But somehow those damn racist white folk let 800,000 slip through the cracks huh?

So what is it you want people to listen to? Our bad backwards history that every society In the history of man and every race has committed the same crimes against? Does England owe the US an apology? Do African tribal leaders owe African-Americans an apology? Who else needs to listen. Do the Muslims need to listen to the Slavs? You know the people that the word slave came from? My best advice would be not to look for an apology from anyone because no one can make up for what happened. Better results would be to be the change you want to be. Do like I did, like I was brought up, nothing will be given everything must be earned. As I mentioned before I’m one of 7 children 5 are college grads and 1 is a small business owner. If we can do it anyone can do because everything was stacked against us. Poor parents, horrible school system(actually test scores so low they used our school as a test school for year round school after I had graduated). We supported each other and pushed each other to make it out of there. So no I will not be listening to anyone making excuses for their situations. If I’ve caused pain to someone I will listen but other then that no thanks.

Yet again... after one of these race discussions someone please tell me what color I am? I’ve asked before. I will even give you a hint. I have white, black, and mixed relatives.


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CorchJay
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Buckfama. I’m a conservative like yourself but you have a way of making good points sound stupid. Also I think everyone playing along was trying to keep it from being political and strictly about what is going on and how the black community feels.

But you are correct democrats were the party of slaves, Republicans were against it, democrats were the Jim Crow party, the kkk party, and all the other bad crap for black people in the past 100 years or more. However the democrats did present the country with the Welfare system. Why a black person would vote democrat blows my mind especially this election. Trump has done more for the black population in the US in 4 years then all presidents combined since Lincoln.


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Weagle25
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Did we just turn a thread about a clothing company political?


Yes. Yes we did...



GO SOMEWHERE ELSE WITH IT.
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LanierSpots
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Hell, I've heard three drive-by N-words thrown at back students during my time at Auburn. Three separate events. It makes me sick. Stop ignoring people that are begging for you to listen.


I mean, if you are going to use that. I have heard 100 Black Auburn players call each other the N word.

Thats more than 3. Its obviously not as demeaning as some say it is.


jangalang
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Obviously white people shouldnt use any variation of the word even if just singing along to favorite rap song, but I doubt black people use the hard R.


This song was kinda catchy. Hard to sing along though :(
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ChexMix
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Obviously white people shouldnt use any variation of the word even if just singing along to favorite rap song, but I doubt black people use the hard R.

you give that word too much power. And to say, no whitey, you dont get to sing the lyrics of the song is asinine.


Rhino5
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So Auburn is a racist school?

yes, have you been there


Really dude? What a terrible comment. You’re acting like the campus is littered with confederate flags and klansman.

I always thought auburn was a very tolerant and pleasant place for all ethnicities while I was an undergrad. Same as now, come tailgate with me regardless of ethnicity, we’re all pulling for the orange and blue.

GTFO of here with your race-baiting.


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jangalang
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you give that word too much power. And to say, no whitey, you dont get to sing the lyrics of the song is asinine.

whitey, you don’t get an opinion on this. Speak when you’re told to.


AuburnTigers
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whitey, you don’t get an opinion on this. Speak when you’re told to.
classless


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Pettifogger
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"Black people are asking for your help, listen to them" is fine in a vacuum. Most people here, and the huge majority of Auburn people, are of the type to do so.

The problem, of course, is that you don't mean this, or at least the people usually touting these lines don't mean it. Because we are listening. And there is a huge amount of measurable progress. And to pretend there isn't is a slap in the face to those who fought for it and those who helped and all the good human beings committed to making sure it doesn't erode.

But listening doesn't mean believing stories belied by evidence. There is no epidemic of killing unarmed black men. The "stop killing us" arguments lobbed (usually at white people generally, not just cops) has absolutely no basis in fact and is, frankly, gaslighting.

There isn't a major city in this country where the majority of violent crime is committed by white males. There just isn't. This isn't whataboutism. It's a relevant life experience that is impossible for the majority of Americans to reconcile with the claims we see from the activist community that white people are an existential threat to black people. It's also a highly relevant consideration for policing in this country, and despite this, nearly everyone still agrees with policing reforms.

So this fiction that black Americans are crying out in the wilderness while their white brethren ignore them simply isn't true. What is true is that you can't feed people grotesquely dishonest narratives and expect they'll continue working with you. Particularly when those narratives center on the idea that we (white people, I suppose) harbor inherent, irredeemable racism and the only way forward is to stop thinking for ourselves and adopt whatever we're told.


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HDAU
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Member since Nov 2014
1059 posts

re: Homefield Apparel — Auburn line
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Did we just turn a thread about a clothing company political?


Yes. Yes we did...



GO SOMEWHERE ELSE WITH IT.


One more time for the people in the back!


HouseofWaffles
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They can't help themselves. Every damn post turns political.


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RandySavage
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re: Homefield Apparel — Auburn line
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Hell, I've heard three drive-by N-words thrown at back students during my time at Auburn. Three separate events. It makes me sick. Stop ignoring people that are begging for you to listen.


What about the black guy who raped and murdered the white girl several years ago, what about the black football player who pulled a gun on a white friend of mine and had it swept under the rug etc.. etc..

People are flawed. White people do messed up stuff sometimes to their own race and sometimes to people of other races, black people do messed up stuff, all people do messed up stuff.

To pretend there is rampant racism, systemic of otherwise, at Auburn or almost anywhere else in the country is completely disingenuous and takes an incredible level of cognitive dissonance. The people pushing this narrative are frankly disgusting and are the root of the problem for most issues in this country.


slacker130
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LanierSpots
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slacker130


I give you an upvote. I am just sorry that I am allowed only one. Plus Allison Brie.













slacker130
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LanierSpots


You had me at Allison Brie.

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88TIger
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If you feel the public education system needs to be reformed then you should support the voucher system which allows school choice and demand that the Teacher's unions allow the firing of bad teachers instead of allowing them to be shuffled to another school. However, the power of the union backs politicians that won't allow this to happen. That is why I worked two jobs to put my kids through private school when I could. I attended public school when I was poor and didn't have a choice but made the best of it which landed me in College at Auburn.

I was at Auburn in the 80's when the media tried to label it the most racist school. We had outsiders coming in to protest to include the KKK which one was run over by a white student because he was pissed about them being there.

I have been fortunate to travel all over this world and have found that People are People no matter where you are. You have the Good Bad and gray (in between) no matter their skin color. There are racists in every nationality & color. There are good, bad and gray in every color.

People have consequences for their decisions. If you want to compare look at what happened to that gang member killed in DC. There were 4 people in that car 3 with weapons. 2 ran, 2 stayed in the car. One ended up dead because as he was running brandished the weapon (yeah we found out he was trying to throw it after the fact but the cop in the split second didn't know it) the other runner didn't point the gun at the cop and gave up when caught.

It seems people are running on emotions in stirring things up instead of using common sense.


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