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re: Draft position: Jabari #1? Kessler first round?
Posted on 3/1/22 at 10:25 am to Skyler97
Posted on 3/1/22 at 10:25 am to Skyler97
The draft is not weaker at the top. Compared to what? Last year? Year before? In fact, having this many 6’10” and above Athletes makes this years draft much stronger. Last years top picks were Cade Cunningham, Jalen Green, Evan Mobley, Scotty Barnes. Lol. This years draft is weaker at the top. Calling BS on that opinion. This years draft is super strong making Jabari the #1 will be incredible for our program! And for Jabari!
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 10:39 am to AUX3
No clue on draft rank I think it’s hard to say how a true draft ranking is hard to say prior to 5 years after the draft.
Most mock drafts have Jabari at 1 and Walker inside the top 20. There are some outliers that have Walker mid second round. The next few weeks should determine where Kessler ends up. I would guess somewhere between 15-35.
I think Jabari goes 1. His shooting and defense is league ready. He will have plenty of time to work on his dribble drive.
Most mock drafts have Jabari at 1 and Walker inside the top 20. There are some outliers that have Walker mid second round. The next few weeks should determine where Kessler ends up. I would guess somewhere between 15-35.
I think Jabari goes 1. His shooting and defense is league ready. He will have plenty of time to work on his dribble drive.
Posted on 3/1/22 at 10:51 am to AUX3
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The draft is not weaker at the top
Picks 4-12, there doesn't seem to be a generational #1 pick either. Which is a bit of irony.
Posted on 3/1/22 at 10:51 am to AUX3
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Last years top picks were Cade Cunningham, Jalen Green, Evan Mobley, Scotty Barnes.
Jabari would not have been drafted above Cade Cunningham and unlikely above Jalen Green. It’s very easy to say that he’s a better prospect once you see them play in the NBA and he hasn’t yet.
I like Jabari. I want him to go number one and do well. But he’s not regarded in the same vein as most number 1 draft picks as a prospect.
Posted on 3/1/22 at 10:52 am to Skyler97
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I bet there will not really be a consensus amongst GMs
There seems to be a real split developing in NBA circles on what is better, switchable perimeter wings or 7FT unicorns.
Just last year, there was a ton of discussion on Evan Mobley #1. Rumor was that OKC offered a king's ransom to try and move into the #3 to get him and CLE said no
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now I am seeing him at 2 and 3 more often but still seeing him at 1 as well
Oh, I felt kind of the opposite. Back in early January I was listening to a pod on Jabari specifically and it was whether he could break into the Chet/Paolo #1 pick convo
Posted on 3/1/22 at 10:58 am to GenesChin
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I was listening to a pod on Jabari specifically and it was whether he could break into the Chet/Paolo #1 pick convo
Was it the BS Pod? I listened to that as well. But I agree, I've noticed the same trend. Seems like it's a Chet/Jabari tier now and the only guy I think could break it up at this point is Ivey. Paolo hasn't shot it well in conference play and his defense was already kinda in question.
Posted on 3/1/22 at 10:59 am to GenesChin
Yea it’s been kinda up and down in terms of what I was hearing. Seemed like in January Jabari was #3, then when he went crazy scoring in late January early February he was #1 consensus now it seems that it’s between him and Chet.
I was probably wrong to say I doubt he goes 1. I guess it would have been more accurate to say I think it’s probably 40-40-20 with him and chet at 40 and Paolo and Ivey at 10 each if they go on miracle tournament runs
I personally don’t like Paolo as a prospect. I like Chet and love Jabari. I would pick Jabari one in 99% of cases except maybe if I’m Detroit. I think Jabari will figure out his handle and finishing to at least a respectable level, but I think he has kinda a reputation on this board as a generational level prospect which just don’t think he’s viewed as by scouts.
I was probably wrong to say I doubt he goes 1. I guess it would have been more accurate to say I think it’s probably 40-40-20 with him and chet at 40 and Paolo and Ivey at 10 each if they go on miracle tournament runs
I personally don’t like Paolo as a prospect. I like Chet and love Jabari. I would pick Jabari one in 99% of cases except maybe if I’m Detroit. I think Jabari will figure out his handle and finishing to at least a respectable level, but I think he has kinda a reputation on this board as a generational level prospect which just don’t think he’s viewed as by scouts.
This post was edited on 3/1/22 at 11:04 am
Posted on 3/1/22 at 11:04 am to Skyler97
I do agree that he's not really a generational type prospect, but I do think he has an extremely high floor. Genuinely seems like a guy that could be starting on an NBA contender next year with just 3-4 months of NBA strength and conditioning. Won't happen of course because he'll go to some awful team but just saying I think he is already NBA starter quality.
Posted on 3/1/22 at 11:12 am to auburnnyc94
Yea I mean with his combo of solid defense and amazing shooting (you probably could make an argument he is generational as a 6-10 shooter) he would get legit minutes on any team and start on many. Hell I’m a hawks fan and I think he could play over Deandre Hunter. Jabari’s floor is solid 3 and D wing which is still very valuable (and make a lot of money) in the NBA. I think he can be at a minimum a Jerami Grant type player and at best Jayson Tatum. That’s a really good pick, I just feel like who actually goes number one is gonna come down to who has the better tournament run.
Posted on 3/1/22 at 1:18 pm to auburnnyc94
I'm no basketball scout but his ability to shoot while tightly guarded is elite elite level. I guess the problem is he's tightly guarded so often because he struggles to get separation or past his defender with his dribbling/movement. Between Chet and Jabari I'm taking Jabari all day everyday.
Posted on 3/1/22 at 3:32 pm to RandySavage
I thought I saw somewhere that Zep was returning (covid year).
This post was edited on 3/1/22 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 3/1/22 at 3:39 pm to makersmark1
Love the kid, but I don't see Flanigan playing any kind of pro ball, let alone the NBA.
Posted on 3/1/22 at 3:41 pm to TailbackU
I suspect you'll be surprised
Posted on 3/1/22 at 3:45 pm to auburnnyc94
I think Flanagan will need to return and play a healthy year to get drafted. Unless someone absolutely fell in love with him last year during the draft process I don’t see him getting drafted this year unless he really turns it up in March
Posted on 3/1/22 at 3:52 pm to Skyler97
Yeah I agree. I wouldn't touch him this year. He's got good measurables and athleticism, and works hard and his shooting % jump from year 1 to year 2 was admirable. But he isn't some otherworldly talent you draft despite bad play. He's gotta earn it back by proving he just struggled through a tough injury.
Posted on 3/1/22 at 5:43 pm to makersmark1
Jabari Smith joining Big Chum in Orlando would be pretty cool.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 2:12 pm to TTsTowel
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Jabari Smith joining Big Chum in Orlando would be pretty cool.
Don't they both play the 4?
Posted on 3/2/22 at 2:17 pm to JamalSanders
Okeke probably projects as a sixth man type and can play the 3 or 4 depending on matchups. Don’t think Jabari would run him out of town or anything
This post was edited on 3/2/22 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 3/2/22 at 3:21 pm to RandySavage
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Chet lol, I'm skinny and I could body that dude all day
That seems to be the detriment to him going number one from a few of the mock draft write ups I've seen so far.
Here's a quote from his eval if the Pistons were to select #2 behind the Magic and the Magic taking Jabari:
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His thin frame would be more concerning if he spent more time posting up or he struggled to bounce above the rim. But Holmgren compensates for limited strength with unique perimeter skill, length and mobility.
And a snippet about Jabari going #1 to the Magic (they're basing it on odds to get #1 pick):
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The Orlando Magic are in a good spot with multiple, quality No. 1 overall candidates who'd each fit the team's current roster and rebuild. Chet Holmgren has put together a strong case, but with Jabari Smith, the Orlando Magic may detect similar upside, no questions about body type and a player who's better suited to initiate offense as a No. 1 option.
A full year younger than Holmgren, Smith is averaging 25.3 points over Auburn's last four games, showcasing spectacular shot-making skills using self-creation moves and a high, unchallengeable release point. At 6'10", he's already made 65 threes (41.9 percent) this season, as well as 35 dribble jumpers in the half court.
This post was edited on 3/2/22 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 3/2/22 at 3:24 pm to auburnnyc94
Yea I mean Chuma has played more like a versatile bench hybrid forward than an actual top 3 option on the team. There’s definitely space for Jabari to start and Chuma to back him up as well as play together if the magic wanted to go Big for whatever reason
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