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re: Bo puttin in that Hard Work
Posted on 5/20/21 at 5:37 pm to FearlessFreep
Posted on 5/20/21 at 5:37 pm to FearlessFreep
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Thanks for the explanation Corch. Still makes absolutely no sense to practice something you would never, ever do in a game, but the next SEC QB I coach will be the first.
Drills by definition are things you don’t do in the game but help you develop the muscle memory and confidence to perform under pressure.
Honestly that sounds like a really well designed drill.
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Posted on 5/21/21 at 5:46 am to metafour
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Even when Bo has completed passes, they are high, low, behind, etc. You can literally watch him low-ball receivers on screens. SCREENS. His ball placement has been below average and so is his general accuracy. I can't see how anyone can honestly gloss over this - it is backed by not only all of the stats, but by just WATCHING the games.
Bo is a gunslinger. Always has been and always will be. He was that way in highschool. Problem is, he is not athletic enough at this level to do what he did in high school. Mechanically, he has always been flawed. Im not sure he can accept that and repair it. I honestly think he believes he is elite and doesnt need to change.
I would not get my hopes up that his mechanics will be be totally different this year. People rarely change. Id bet by the 2nd real game will play this year, you will see him rolling out to his right and trying to throw on the run many many times. It is who he is unfortunatley
Posted on 5/21/21 at 8:47 am to LanierSpots
I tend to agree but with better OL play and better route trees the results can be much, much better.
It’s also possible we are both wrong and he buys into improvement.
It’s also possible we are both wrong and he buys into improvement.
This post was edited on 5/21/21 at 8:48 am
Posted on 5/21/21 at 12:49 pm to metafour
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I've seen him throw the ball and place it exactly where it needs to be. Time after time. And guess what? The NFL agrees with me - not you. Notwithstanding whatever you think of Belichik, he was a CONSENSUS first round pick. Or are we of the opinion that you have watched more tape, and/or interpreted it "more appropriately" than dozens of NFL scouts, coaches, personnel, etc?
Four teams thought other QBs were better. Your anger would be better directed at whatever personal issues you are going though my friend, not an internet message board.
Posted on 5/21/21 at 12:54 pm to trinidadtiger
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Four teams thought other QBs were better. Your anger would be better directed at whatever personal issues you are going though my friend, not an internet message board.
Wait, wait, wait....did you really just try to shake off the fact that Mac Jones was a 1st round pick, 15th player selected out of 259 total picks, under the pretense that 4 other QB's went before him? And that somehow proves your "point"? That actually has zero relevance to anything.
You lost the discussion, bro. Just leave the conversation and try again in another one.
Posted on 5/21/21 at 2:29 pm to trinidadtiger
And Lamar Jackson was the 5th QB taken in the NFL draft, and he took his team to the SB.
Ben Roethlisberger was the 11th pick in the draft and he is going to be a HOFer.
THere are plenty of others that may have not been the 1st, 2nd, or even 3rd or 5th QB taken, doesn't mean they won't be a successful QB in the NFL. And ofc, Brady was a 6th round pick and the 7th QB taken in the 2000 draft.
In other words, you might want to use a different reference when making your point about Jones... :)
Ben Roethlisberger was the 11th pick in the draft and he is going to be a HOFer.
THere are plenty of others that may have not been the 1st, 2nd, or even 3rd or 5th QB taken, doesn't mean they won't be a successful QB in the NFL. And ofc, Brady was a 6th round pick and the 7th QB taken in the 2000 draft.
In other words, you might want to use a different reference when making your point about Jones... :)
Posted on 5/21/21 at 10:28 pm to LanierSpots
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I honestly think he believes he is elite and doesnt need to change.
I would not get my hopes up that his mechanics will be be totally different this year. People rarely change. Id bet by the 2nd real game will play this year, you will see him rolling out to his right and trying to throw on the run many many times. It is who he is unfortunatley
Holy crap, we agree.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 7:09 am to metafour
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Wait, wait, wait....did you really just try to shake off the fact that Mac Jones was a 1st round pick, 15th player selected out of 259 total picks, under the pretense that 4 other QB's went before him? And that somehow proves your "point"? That actually has zero relevance to anything.
If you believe Mac Jones is a better QB than Trevor Lawrence, thats okay, everyone has their opinion, meanwhile this is a thread on Bo Nix and we are getting sidetracked.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 7:53 am to AuburnFan2019
Bo can sling it no doubt. He'll look much better this year without Gus and Kodi telling him where to throw it or waiting on those 15 yard routes do develop on 3rd and 5
Posted on 5/22/21 at 10:52 am to trinidadtiger
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If you believe Mac Jones is a better QB than Trevor Lawrence, thats okay, everyone has their opinion, meanwhile this is a thread on Bo Nix and we are getting sidetracked.
No, I think you are totally misunderstanding what they are responding to, based on your comments about Mac being 'made' bc of his elite WRs...
They know that the other QBs are very good and better, especially bc of their athleticism, which Jones, all of us would agree, is not his trait.
As I agree with them, Jones time after time, was very accurate regardless of the distance, or the route the WR ran. There are many many passing plays that Jones put it right on the money, even when the WR was not that wide open. It wasn't always 50/50 balls, or the WR making him look good. As much as he threw the ball, you would see that.
So that is one, but not all the reasons he was picked by NE, who was shocked he was still available at 15. Remember, some thought that SF at #3 was seriously looking at Jones. So evidently, he was considered one of the top QBs regardless of where he landed...
Posted on 5/22/21 at 5:21 pm to AuSteeler
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better route trees
What a load of crap ....Any level, all levels,
ONE ROUTE TREE !
How much difference can you make with 9 patterns?
The difference is the combination of patterns and the knowledge of the receivers to run the right pattern, regardless of their position on the field.
Stop reading the crap from pretend Armchair Quarterbacks whose lone claim to fame in the last beer they guzzled down between plays.
Posted on 5/23/21 at 10:31 am to bluedragon
Completely disagree. If you look at our passing game under Gus you'll see.
1. WRz in the wrong position
2. Slow developing routes on 3rd and manageable
3. Single read routes
3. No tight end presence
4. Very little middle of the field routes.
All of those were well documented under Gus, hell there were several times on tape you see guys not even run their routes because the ball wasn't going to them.
I've seen on 3rd and 10 dbs sit on the yard to gain line and our WRs run right to them and turn around waiting on the pass.
Once I saw an uncovered wr not even leave the LOS because the ball was going to the other side of the field. The best part was the QB looked dead at him pre-snap and saw he was uncovered then went on to hike to ball and throw it to the "pre-determined" guy.
You're right about there being only so many routes but you can use the whole field with them, throw in crossing patters and rubs to get your guys open. Use a tight-end to clear space etc.
1. WRz in the wrong position
2. Slow developing routes on 3rd and manageable
3. Single read routes
3. No tight end presence
4. Very little middle of the field routes.
All of those were well documented under Gus, hell there were several times on tape you see guys not even run their routes because the ball wasn't going to them.
I've seen on 3rd and 10 dbs sit on the yard to gain line and our WRs run right to them and turn around waiting on the pass.
Once I saw an uncovered wr not even leave the LOS because the ball was going to the other side of the field. The best part was the QB looked dead at him pre-snap and saw he was uncovered then went on to hike to ball and throw it to the "pre-determined" guy.
You're right about there being only so many routes but you can use the whole field with them, throw in crossing patters and rubs to get your guys open. Use a tight-end to clear space etc.
Posted on 5/23/21 at 9:52 pm to LanierSpots
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he is not athletic enough at this level to do what he did in high school
I mean, few ever do what they did in high school once they reach the P5 level, but Bo is definitely athletic enough well at this level. He's probably the best athlete playing the QB position in the entire SEC. Doesn't mean he's the best QB, but honestly, who's a better athlete than Bo at QB?
Posted on 5/24/21 at 6:51 am to TailbackU
There are Auburn fans who seem to want Bo to fail.
Posted on 5/24/21 at 8:15 am to allin2010
I disagree. There are a few of us who saw through the hype and ask why we are starting a guy who had a 57% completion rate in HS.
Posted on 5/24/21 at 8:26 am to AUCE05
Because he was (and still is) the best QB on our roster.
Posted on 5/24/21 at 8:35 am to auburnnyc94
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Because he was (and still is) the best QB on our roster.
Turns out that Willis was better, albeit that Gus would have ruined him too. You're right though, as of this moment, he is still the best QB on the roster. Whether that will still be the case by kickoff time vs. Penn State, or a few games into the 2021 season, is yet to be determined.
Posted on 5/24/21 at 9:03 am to metafour
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Turns out that Willis was better,
As much as some of us wanted that to be true, it just isn't Posted on 5/24/21 at 9:15 am to LanierSpots
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As much as some of us wanted that to be true, it just isn't
Maybe try watching football.
Posted on 5/24/21 at 9:25 am to metafour
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Turns out that Willis was better, albeit that Gus would have ruined him too. You're right though, as of this moment, he is still the best QB on the roster. Whether that will still be the case by kickoff time vs. Penn State, or a few games into the 2021 season, is yet to be determined.
WHile I totally agree that Bo is the best on our roster...for now, who knows if that will be the case...IF Finley signs with us...and Bo struggles after the PSU game..and into the SEC.
But I still am not sold that Willis was better, playing in that league he is playing in now. As with so many players...the competition can display your flaws for sure with better players..especially better coaches that know how to defend a QB like WIllis, and defensive players that can make it harder for WIllis to have the stats he had last year...if he was still in the SEC.
The title of this thread definitely means something..as Bo will have to put even MORE hard work, if his competition behind him gets significantly better w/ Finley behind him.
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