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Posted on 10/27/19 at 1:58 pm to
Posted by greygoose
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Posted on 10/27/19 at 1:58 pm to
I'm sorry I hurt your feelings.

Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11438 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 2:03 pm to
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You've already admitted that if he were coaching somewhere else, you wouldn't even know he existed. That's pretty telling to me. Also is the fact that no other programs have shown interest him hiring him.


If you think Clark is an unknown, then you are sadly mistaken. He's on a lot of radars right now.

Sounds like you need to do your homework.

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C-USA Coach of the Year (2017) Eddie Robinson Coach of the Year Award (2018) Sporting News College Football Coach of the Year (2018)
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 10/27/19 at 2:12 pm to
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If you think Clark is an unknown, then you are sadly mistaken. He's on a lot of radars right now.



What kind of radars? There isn't a single program of Auburn's caliber that will even consider hiring him right now, and you are completely delusional if you think otherwise. No one of our caliber would have hired Gus Malzahn either after one season as HC, and Malzahn was much more "known" nationally than Bill Clark currently is.

And the point about your state bias coming into play is entirely legitimate. How do you know that there aren't 10 other "Bill Clark's" coaching at low-tier programs in other states that you've never heard of due to the fact that you have no ties to those states? This is one of the most lucrative coaching jobs in the country; a guy like Bill Clark has to prove himself further than what he's done in CUSA, period.
Posted by AUNashville
New Haven
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 10/27/19 at 2:28 pm to
I’m curious which programs have him on their radars. Do you mind naming some with some proof to back it up?
This post was edited on 10/27/19 at 2:30 pm
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11438 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 2:44 pm to
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What kind of radars? There isn't a single program of Auburn's caliber that will even consider hiring him right now, and you are completely delusional if you think otherwise. No one of our caliber would have hired Gus Malzahn either after one season as HC, and Malzahn was much more "known" nationally than Bill Clark currently is.

And the point about your state bias coming into play is entirely legitimate. How do you know that there aren't 10 other "Bill Clark's" coaching at low-tier programs in other states that you've never heard of due to the fact that you have no ties to those states? This is one of the most lucrative coaching jobs in the country; a guy like Bill Clark has to prove himself further than what he's done in CUSA, period.

I'm beginning to think your irrational thought process may be due to some kind of hormonal issue.

You keep saying he is "unknown", yet he was Coach of the Year, last year in a major sports publication. He was the Eddie Robinson Coach of the Year in 2017. Clark has done more, with less. As opposed to Gus, who does less with more.

I'm sorry your lack of knowledge has led you to believe things you know nothing about. If you don't think his name isn't mentioned for job openings at P5 schools this year, you are due for a surprise.

Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11438 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 2:47 pm to
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I’m curious which programs have him on their radars. Do you mind naming some with some proof to back it up?



This is from last year:

LINK
Posted by AUNashville
New Haven
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 10/27/19 at 2:49 pm to
Name some more...you said there were a lot.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11438 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 2:50 pm to
Sorry you don't have any semblance of a radar.

LINK /

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The other finalists for the coaching award claimed by UCF’s Josh Heupel, Notre Dame’s Brian Kelly, Army’s Jeff Monken, Oklahoma’s Lincoln Riley, Alabama’s Nick Saban, Clemson’s Dabo Swinney and Fresno State’s Jeff Tedford. Last year’s winner was UCF’s Scott Frost.
This post was edited on 10/27/19 at 2:52 pm
Posted by gsm1060
Tree stand
Member since Dec 2009
683 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 2:51 pm to
Guys let’s keep in mind that GT had their sights set on him last year. Maybe Ole Miss will upgrade to Bill Clark.
Posted by AUNashville
New Haven
Member since Jul 2014
3561 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 2:58 pm to
Im talking about HC positions. You said there were a lot.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19179 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 3:06 pm to
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He will be at a P5 school very soon

He is a good coach, I think. But do we really need to hire a guy that has no P5 experience? Again? Because that's what happened with Gus. UAB and JSU are nothing compared to jumping into the SEC.

Like I said, I dont have the answer to this but it ain't Gus. And I dont see anything from Bill Clark that tells me he would come in and start beating our rivals. If you think you do, well, you are just buying in to your own bias because he is the guy you want.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11438 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 3:37 pm to
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He is a good coach, I think. But do we really need to hire a guy that has no P5 experience? Again? Because that's what happened with Gus. UAB and JSU are nothing compared to jumping into the SEC.

Like I said, I dont have the answer to this but it ain't Gus. And I dont see anything from Bill Clark that tells me he would come in and start beating our rivals. If you think you do, well, you are just buying in to your own bias because he is the guy you want.


Last time I looked, not one coach throws a pass, runs the ball, makes tackles, etc.

If you are a good coach, get the most out of your talent, and your strategy is sound, that will translate to whatever level you participate in.

Gus had no prior HC experience in college except for his one year at Arky State. Yet, he took us to the Natty his 1st year. Chizik had no prior HC job, he took us to the Natty and won. Bowden was HC at Samford.....Samford, when we hired him. He went 20-1-1 in his 1st two seasons. Tubs never won anything of importance at Ole Miss.

Clark may or may not be at a P5 school after this season, if he isn't it won't be because he didn't get an offer. The guy is legit. Kirby Smart stayed at Alabama far longer than he had to. He waited for the right job. Venebles at Clemson is doing the same thing. Muschamp was dumb to jump at his first offer after one year as Auburn's DC. Better jobs than USC-east would have come open, with a better chance to win.

Name a current P5 coach that you think would jump ship and come to Auburn. Competition is extremely tough. Best recruiting machine ever in college football is across the state. His protege his on the other side getting guys we wanted. Like I said before, our next coach is either going to be an up and comer, or a very known name who is trying to get one more gig before retiring. Our best option is to get the hungry guy and just don't see anybody who has done more with less, than Bill Clark.
Posted by GruntAu
Member since Jul 2017
740 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 5:04 pm to
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Anything else is a gamble that we cannot afford.


With the buyout maybe we can’t afford anything else
Posted by vandelay industries
CSRA
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 10/27/19 at 5:40 pm to
I'm not sold on him being "the guy"...but that being said, based on Auburn's criteria for hiring coaches since I've been following them, I'd probably be happier with him compared to god knows who else who'd be on the short list...
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11438 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 8:26 pm to
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I'm not sold on him being "the guy"...but that being said, based on Auburn's criteria for hiring coaches since I've been following them, I'd probably be happier with him compared to god knows who else who'd be on the short list...



More head coaching experience than the current guy we have when he was hired.
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 9:18 pm to
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I think some of you just want him because you saw him coach at Prattville
Yes & he took Prattville from a mid level 6A team to a national power. What he did successfully there translates from high school to college: tough arse defense which is his baby, great special teams in all areas, Likes offense that gets the ball to the best players in space, Charasmatic so he won't clash with the big wigs like Gus does, great fund raiser & marketer, & lastly even though it's illegal in Alabama high school football he's a great recruiter. If we fire Gus I don't think Bill will get the job but he's worth the gamble from watching him closely the past 20 years IMO.
Posted by vandelay industries
CSRA
Member since May 2012
2477 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 9:25 pm to
True. And that's why he could be a legit frontrunner. I don't expect the PTBs to touch the ceiling in terms of coaching hires, so I just laugh at some of the suggestions I've read here in the past. I mean, Stoops ain't coming here, folks...
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 9:26 pm to
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Agreed. I’m sure Clark is a good coach but we need him to land that mid level gig like Neal Brown did and let him audition on that stage.
His next job will be a P5 job. If we aren't that school then we'll never have a chance to hire him. I just had a scary thought. If Dabo says no to Bama when Saban retires I sure as hell don't want to see Clark there & keep that train rolling.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/27/19 at 9:31 pm to
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Bama when Saban retires I sure as hell don't want to see Clark there & keep that train rolling.
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 9:33 pm to
I knew that post will get laughed hard at but I ain't backing down from it.
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