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Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:24 am to TailbackU
quote:Foster is in his 2nd year, right?
I'm not saying that Bill Clark wouldn't be a good hire, but I'm also not saying that just because he was successful at a G5 school in building a program that he will be successful and P5 school. Look at Scott Frosr, whose Cornhuskers just lost at home to Indiana. Some programs have extenuating circumstances that are beyond an HC's control. Gus gets some blame yesterday because of some decisions he made, but he also lost to the hottest team in the country by 3 points in their house against a Heisman frontrunner at QB. All is not lost. We have much to play for. Ole Miss, UGA, Bama. Ein 2 of those 3 and we have a shot at a 10-win season with a bowl victory.
Gus is in his 7th. Foster is rebuilding. Gus is regressing. We lost by 3 in a game that we should've won. Same thing as the FLA game. Starting Martin over DJ. Keeping Nix in. Receiver route trees are a joke. We only target one guy, and those are 50-50 balls.
I honestly don't know how that dumbass watches film after a game, a does the same shite the next week, expecting better results. DCs everywhere must be licking there chops planning against Auburn's scheme.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:25 am to greygoose
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UAB
6-6
Program shut down for 2 years
8-5
11-3
6-1
It's not enough to just talk about Clark's record at UAB, you have to realize how bad they were before he got there.
It had been a decade since UAB had been at or above .500 (in 2004 they went 7-5 and went to the school's only bowl game before Clark in what to that point was the best season in school history).
UAB had won 3 games or less 5 times in 8 years before Clark there
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:27 am to greygoose
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Based on what?
Lack of experience recruiting at a P5 level. Lack of experience coaching against P5 teams. He has only coached 4 seasons, so there’s not enough information to argue he can consistently produce a strong record.
If he puts together a few 9-10 win seasons, you’ll see a strong non-P5 program hire him.
Do you think if he were coaching at, say, UTSA, you’d have near the interest in him? You’re just all over him because he’s an Alabama local.
This post was edited on 10/27/19 at 11:30 am
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:31 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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You are comparing our football program to a Kentucky?
Yeah, I really trust your judgment skills now.
Are you drunk?
I compared a coaching hire, imbecile!
Bryant turned Kentucky into a football powerhouse. A school that didn't care about football. Bryant was not a household name and his only HC job before Kentucky, was one year at Maryland. That fricker turned out to be the bane of Auburn for decades!
So let's pass on a coach that is a proven winner, even in the most dire of circumstances, and go after Moorehead at State. We could probably get him. I'm not sure Luke at Ole Miss would leave his alma mater. I guess we could try to follow the Vols example and set the bar high, put out feelers to Gruden, Stoops, Hell, maybe Saban wants a change of scenery!
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:31 am to AUNashville
Agreed. I’m sure Clark is a good coach but we need him to land that mid level gig like Neal Brown did and let him audition on that stage.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:33 am to Pettifogger
Is Bill Clark undefeated every year in that shite conference he’s in? If not, please shut up about it
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:34 am to greygoose
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A school that didn't care about football
You made my argument for me.
What did they have to lose? You take more risks. You catching up yet?
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:35 am to AUNashville
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Lack of experience recruiting at a P5 level. Lack of experience coaching against P5 teams. He has only coached 4 seasons, so there’s not enough information to argue he can consistently produce a strong record.
If he puts together a few 9-10 win seasons, you’ll see a strong non-P5 program hire him.
Do you think if he were coaching at, say, UTSA, you’d have near the interest in him? You’re just all over him because he’s an Alabama local.
I could not care less if he was from Alaska or Hawaii!
If he finishes with 10 wins this year (mostly likely that will happen) that will be 2- ten win seasons, back to back, after receiving, essentially, the death penalty. You do understand how impressive that is right? He did not have a freaking team 3 years ago!
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:40 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
quote:you would be hard pressed to see where i said we should hire him for being a local guy
I was laughing at that being the reason he has no other offers, and your reason we should hire him.
eta; i didnt say we should hire him in this thread at all. I said he is a good coach and i welcome anyone to refute that statement
This post was edited on 10/27/19 at 11:41 am
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:42 am to ChexMix
You would be hard pressed to find where I said he wasn’t a good coach.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:44 am to greygoose
Ha, if he were in Alaska or Hawaii you wouldn’t even know that he existed.
In the shitty CUSA, putting together good seasons isn’t as impressive as you make it out to be.
In the shitty CUSA, putting together good seasons isn’t as impressive as you make it out to be.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:47 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
quote:Aaaand you would be hard pressed to find where i called you out for say such
You would be hard pressed to find where I said he wasn’t a good coach.
eta, who gives a shite. Bill clark should be a name in the conversation for head coach.
This post was edited on 10/27/19 at 11:51 am
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:50 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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What did they have to lose? You take more risks. You catching up yet?
Oh, I'm catching up alright.
Delusional fans pining for an "elite" coach, that will never happen.
Delusional fans that wouldn't recognize a great coach, if he walked up and slapped them across the face.
Delusional fans want a coach with experience, a la, Chizik. Doesn't matter what he did in his previous HC position, he has experience dammit!
Bryant, and I'm paraphrasing, stated that he knew to leave Kentucky after he won their only SEC championship, and they gave him a watch. Rupp was given a Cadillac.
Imagine where Kentucky FOOTBALL would be now if those idiots showed more appreciation to him for what he had done.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:56 am to AUNashville
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Ha, if he were in Alaska or Hawaii you wouldn’t even know that he existed.
Probably not, but would not mean that he still isn't a great coach.
Go get another Chizik. Ton's of experience. Fits all your prerequisites. Had to be talked into offering one of the greatest football players ever to play, a spot on the team.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 12:17 pm to greygoose
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Probably not, but would not mean that he still isn't a great coach. Go get another Chizik. Ton's of experience. Fits all your prerequisites. Had to be talked into offering one of the greatest football players ever to play, a spot on the team.
So are you admitting that the fact he's a product of the state of Alabama is causing you to be a little biased in your opinion of him?
There are countless examples of people being great in their own contexts. Bill Clark looks to be a good coach right now. If he can rattle off another 10+ win season or so, maybe he's then great. But that doesn't mean he would be a great coach at a school like Louisville or certainly Auburn. The contexts are different. There are great CEO's of small companies that would never be considered to replace a Fortune 500 CEO.
I would be more enthralled if I saw him able to incorporate his system in a new geographic setting. Wouldn't you too?
Posted on 10/27/19 at 12:20 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
This greygoose guy is melting hard today.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 12:26 pm to AUX3
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Is Bill Clark undefeated every year in that shite conference he’s in? If not, please shut up about it
Ok, now that we know the bar is, "Coach must be undefeated every year", I guess we can start making the list.
Make sure you've got your helmet on before you go outside.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 12:30 pm to AUNashville
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So are you admitting that the fact he's a product of the state of Alabama is causing you to be a little biased in your opinion of him?
There are countless examples of people being great in their own contexts. Bill Clark looks to be a good coach right now. If he can rattle off another 10+ win season or so, maybe he's then great. But that doesn't mean he would be a great coach at a school like Louisville or certainly Auburn. The contexts are different. There are great CEO's of small companies that would never be considered to replace a Fortune 500 CEO.
I would be more enthralled if I saw him able to incorporate his system in a new geographic setting. Wouldn't you too?
Jesus! Why are you so hung up on the idea that I want Clark because he is from Alabama? Have you taken your meds today?
I don't care where he is from, and I have stated that, but having ties to the state does have advantage with HS recruiting within the State and the Southeast. Much easier to relate to Southern Moms & Dads of recruits, and he already has relationships with the State's HS coaches.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 12:43 pm to greygoose
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Why are you so hung up on the idea that I want Clark because he is from Alabama?
You've already admitted that if he were coaching somewhere else, you wouldn't even know he existed. That's pretty telling to me. Also is the fact that no other programs have shown interest him hiring him.
All I'm saying is I'd like to see how his coaching style and system pans out at a program on a higher tier than UAB, and I'd be willing to be that most P5 AD's would agree with me.
Also, for a 48 year old to be saying things like "Make sure you've got your helmet on before you go outside." and "Have you taken your meds", it comes off as a little childish.
This post was edited on 10/27/19 at 12:44 pm
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