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re: Bill Clark
Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:30 am to AUNashville
Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:30 am to AUNashville
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Has he even gotten interest from any lower tier P5 HC openings? How about non-P5 programs that are better than UAB?
I think some of you just want him because you saw him coach at Prattville and want someone you're familiar with or someone you played for in HS to get the position at Auburn. That kind of thinking will absolutely wreck an SEC program.
Not at all.
I wasn't on the Clark bandwagon until I saw what he did AFTER UAB scrapped their program for 2 years. Go back and look at his entire coaching career. He's won at every level and their is absolutely no indication that would not continue to happen at the next level.
I guess we should look for another Iowa DC or an offensive genius that can't generate any offense.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:41 am to greygoose
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Not at all. I wasn't on the Clark bandwagon until I saw what he did AFTER UAB scrapped their program for 2 years. Go back and look at his entire coaching career. He's won at every level and their is absolutely no indication that would not continue to happen at the next level. I guess we should look for another Iowa DC or an offensive genius that can't generate any offense.
The fact he's received zero interest from P5 programs and zero interest even from even non-P5 programs is telling.
He needs to prove himself at a higher level than UAB (and maybe go out of the state) before he even gets considered for an SEC programs like Kentucky or Vandy. Do you also know who won at every level before becoming HC...Gus.
Did you play for him in high school or something?
Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:47 am to AUNashville
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The fact he's received zero interest from P5 programs and zero interest even from even non-P5 programs is telling.
He needs to prove himself at a higher level than UAB (and maybe go out of the state) before he even gets considered for an SEC programs like Kentucky or Vandy. Do you also know who won at every level before becoming HC...Gus.
Did you play for him in high school or something?
LOL! Gus is 5 years older than me.
If you don't think Clark will move on to the next level and be successful, I don't know what else to say. We either get him or someone else will.
Where was Gus successful as a HC before coming to Auburn? 1 season at Arky State?
Outside of HS, Gus was never a HC in college. Yet we hired him.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:53 am to rbWarEagle
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Yeah, no thanks. If we ditch Malzahn, it needs to be an elite hire. Anything else is a gamble that we cannot afford.
This
I don’t understand the infatuation with Bill. Why is no one else breaking down his door? I mean hell, he didn’t even have a program at one time and not one team came asking?
No thank you
Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:55 am to greygoose
Me personally I prefer the young hungry coach who has proved he is a winner at every level he has coached at.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:56 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Probably the biggest indictment.
I'm not sold on Clark yet to coach at the SEC level but he is clearly a decent coach. He will probably be pretty good somewhere big eventually
I'm not sold on Clark yet to coach at the SEC level but he is clearly a decent coach. He will probably be pretty good somewhere big eventually
Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:56 am to greygoose
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If you don't think Clark will move on to the next level and be successful, I don't know what else to say. We either get him or someone else will.
No one is even going after him. If he were coaching somewhere else besides Alabama, you wouldn’t be clamoring for him to be the HC.
Why do you think programs at the level of The AAC or equivalent are not going after him? That’s the type of school he needs to move on to before any SEC program considers him. That’s reality.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:57 am to greygoose
AUNashville is right; it is way too early to hire Bill Clark. Its too big a jump.
No program on our level is going to go out and hire him from under us, so what exactly are you afraid of? Yes, he will get hired away soon...by a school that we can easily poach him away from later if we so choose to.
No program on our level is going to go out and hire him from under us, so what exactly are you afraid of? Yes, he will get hired away soon...by a school that we can easily poach him away from later if we so choose to.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:04 am to metafour
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AUNashville is right; it is way too early to hire Bill Clark. Its too big a jump.
No program on our level is going to go out and hire him from under us, so what exactly are you afraid of? Yes, he will get hired away soon...by a school that we can easily poach him away from later if we so choose to.
Where was Bowden coaching when we hired him?
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:05 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
quote:because he is a good coach
I don’t understand the infatuation with Bill
quote:He is a local guy. Makes sense people outside of this state dont know who he is or his successes
Why is no one else breaking down his door?
quote:great analysis. Got anyone in mind
No thank you
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:08 am to TTsTowel
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When was the last time Auburn got a guy that was considered “elite” prior to hire?
Tuberville (at the time) was probably the closest thing.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:10 am to ChexMix
All the analysis you need for Bill bud.
Local guy?
Sign him up
Local guy?
Sign him up
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:12 am to AUNashville
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No one is even going after him. If he were coaching somewhere else besides Alabama, you wouldn’t be clamoring for him to be the HC.
Why do you think programs at the level of The AAC or equivalent are not going after him? That’s the type of school he needs to move on to before any SEC program considers him. That’s reality.
If you are predicating a hire based on perception of being wanted by others, you are taking a bigger gamble than you think.
Also, if you don't think Clark is on the radar for a lot of schools, you are sadly mistaken. He's 6-1 right now at place that didn't have a football program 3 years ago. If he finishes with 10 wins, and that is very likely, he won't be at UAB very long.
Who wanted Dabo when he was named HC at Clemson?
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:13 am to Tiguar
My comments does not mean I am not impressed what he has done at UAB and elsewhere, but I don’t believe that makes him ready for our program.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:13 am to greygoose
Who was the bigger name when Dabo was was hired? Dabo or Muschamp?
How has their careers been since?
How has their careers been since?
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:15 am to greygoose
I'm not saying that Bill Clark wouldn't be a good hire, but I'm also not saying that just because he was successful at a G5 school in building a program that he will be successful and P5 school. Look at Scott Frosr, whose Cornhuskers just lost at home to Indiana. Some programs have extenuating circumstances that are beyond an HC's control. Gus gets some blame yesterday because of some decisions he made, but he also lost to the hottest team in the country by 3 points in their house against a Heisman frontrunner at QB. All is not lost. We have much to play for. Ole Miss, UGA, Bama. Ein 2 of those 3 and we have a shot at a 10-win season with a bowl victory.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:18 am to greygoose
But Gus proved he could coach at this level as an OC. He won a SEC championship, went to another and to a NC a year after our worst season. He fricked up changing what he did best and that’s on him too.
I am not against the possibility of replacing Gus, but they need a little better resume than Bill.
I am not against the possibility of replacing Gus, but they need a little better resume than Bill.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:18 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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but I don’t believe that makes him ready for our program.
Based on what?
Because he hasn't coached outside of the state? That's about the only thing I keep hearing.
Bear Bryant was relatively unknown when he was hired at Kentucky. How'd that work out?
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:18 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
quote:Coached at Prattville, coached at USA, coaching at UAB
All the analysis you need for Bill bud.
Local guy?
Sign him up
what the hell else would you call him but local????
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:19 am to ChexMix
I wasn’t disagreeing with the local label. I was laughing at that being the reason he has no other offers, and your reason we should hire him.
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