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Posted on 6/2/25 at 11:45 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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Ike has 630 AB's to Thomas 597
Ike has 220 hits to Thomas 228
Ike has 38 HR's to Thomas 49
Ike has 166 RBI's to Thomas 205
Ike has 79 BB to Thomas 153
Ike has .349 BA to Thomas .382
Those are insane numbers. Nearly doubling up Ike in walks is extra crazy. I also didn't realize that Thomas hit that close to .400 either.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 12:19 pm to IAmNERD
Pat Dye steering Thomas to Baseball. A story most of us know. LINK from 2014 article
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"It's amazing what you did on the baseball field last year," Thomas recalled Dye telling him. "You might need to start thinking about that as your future. I said, wait a minute, what are you telling me? I'm not a good enough football player? No, I never said that. I think you'll be a very, very good football player but you're not going to be at that level that you are in baseball. So, he really helped that decision for me."
Posted on 6/2/25 at 12:30 pm to OlGrandad
Didn't he get to keep his full-ride football scholarship his entire time at Auburn as well? Seems like that was something that I remember from the Bo, Barkley, Big Hurt doc.
Either way, kudos to Coach Dye for recognizing hos talents and letting him go for the betterment of his future. There isn't a whole lot of that kind of big picture thinking around. Especially back then.
Either way, kudos to Coach Dye for recognizing hos talents and letting him go for the betterment of his future. There isn't a whole lot of that kind of big picture thinking around. Especially back then.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 12:37 pm to IAmNERD
Yea, I feel like I remember that as well. Dye did that so the baseball team didn't have to use a Scholly on him.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 1:29 pm to IAmNERD
Yes. Another rule created to eliminate a loophole bama was using to get around scholarship limits. Giving football players scholarships in other sports.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 7:15 pm to IAmNERD
Not taking away from Big Frank at all but pitching in college then isn’t the same as now.
And I’m a guy for years that argued with a Big Ken Griffey Jr fan that overall hitter Frank was better because of his on base percentage.
And I’m a guy for years that argued with a Big Ken Griffey Jr fan that overall hitter Frank was better because of his on base percentage.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 8:31 pm to CorchJay
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Not taking away from Big Frank at all but pitching in college then isn’t the same as now.
Oh good grief, if you have a bad take it's okay to admit you are wrong, you don't have to come up with some convoluted BS to keep digging your hole bigger.
Frank Thomas is one of the best hitters in MLB history, it wouldn't matter who he was facing in college.
Ike is a fantastic player, but he's not in Frank's league. Ike's best season this year is about on the same level as Frank's worst.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 9:06 pm to auyushu
How is comparing Ike to Frank and Huddy a bad take? Yall are goofy. Half of yall never even seen Frank play so frick off
Posted on 6/2/25 at 9:09 pm to CorchJay
and for reference average velocity in the mid 80’s in college was 86.
DIII starters today average 87
DIII starters today average 87
Posted on 6/2/25 at 9:48 pm to CorchJay
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and for reference average velocity in the mid 80’s in college was 86.
DIII starters today average 87
You might have a valid point if Frank Thomas feasted on college pitching, then flamed out in the majors, but he tore up MLB for years facing the best pitching in baseball.
As somebody else said, you need to just put the shovel down on this one.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 9:54 pm to tiggerfan02 2021
I’m not taking anything away from Frank. Just comparing the 3 players. It’s my opinion in my lifetime that Ike is in the number 1 spot. Then Frank. Then Huddy.
I watched all 3 players live in college. Hudson had the greatest season I ever witnessed. Ike the best career. No dig at any of the 3.
I watched all 3 players live in college. Hudson had the greatest season I ever witnessed. Ike the best career. No dig at any of the 3.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 11:27 pm to CorchJay
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How is comparing Ike to Frank and Huddy a bad take? Yall are goofy. Half of yall never even seen Frank play so frick off
Nothing wrong with comparing him to Huddy, Ike certainly belongs up there in the second best AU baseball player of all time discussion. I'd still go Huddy based on the specialness of his 97 season when you combine the pitching angle, but Ike definitely has the best overall career versus Huddy offensively.
But he's not even close to Frank's numbers. About 40 points of BA and 200 points of OPS off Frank's best season, and over 35 points of BA and 150+ OPS off Frank's career numbers. There is literally nothing that would remotely say Irish is better in any way.
And I watched Frank play in person at Auburn, and extensively in MLB, so you can take your stupid straw man and shove it.
The only person in my lifetime that is equal to Frank in terms of batting eye is probably Bonds (Gwynn and Ichiro are right there too, just not the same level in terms of batting threat).
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 12:10 am
Posted on 6/3/25 at 7:33 am to auyushu
That’s your opinion. Auburn careers
Should not be influenced by what happens in the pros.
Should not be influenced by what happens in the pros.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:23 am to CorchJay
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:05 am to auyushu
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But he's not even close to Frank's numbers. About 40 points of BA and 200 points of OPS off Frank's best season, and over 35 points of BA and 150+ OPS off Frank's career numbers. There is literally nothing that would remotely say Irish is better in any way.
Comparing base NCAA stats is literally pointless. Look into JUST the statistical impact of the switch to BBCOR bats which happened in 2011. There was an immediate overnight ~20-point drop in cumulative batting average across the NCAA despite strikeout rates and contact rates remaining consistent when the NCAA switched to BBCOR bats.This doesn't even take into account advancements in defensive analytics (the MLB put bans in place for utilizing the shift, NCAA still allows it) and the categorical improvements in pitching optimization and development.
Note that in no way am I joining the conversation to claim that Ike Irish is as good or better than Frank Thomas, I am strictly replying to the suggestion of using stats as any sort of differentiator. Its no different from football where all of a sudden guys like Chris Todd start breaking Auburn QB single-season and career records....because the modern game switched to throwing the ball 2x more than they did in the 1980's or earlier. Its a pointless comparison.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 11:14 am to CallFoy
Boned on those start times
Posted on 6/3/25 at 11:45 am to CallFoy
Tell me about Coastal Carolina.
Good nickname. Chanticleers.
Will we be the home team 2 of 3 games?
How did they sort that out for regional?
Is super regional home game 1 and 3?
Good nickname. Chanticleers.
Will we be the home team 2 of 3 games?
How did they sort that out for regional?
Is super regional home game 1 and 3?
Posted on 6/3/25 at 11:54 am to makersmark1
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Good nickname. Chanticleers.
When you gotta look up what the hell a Chanticleer is, the answer is no. Should've copied the Gamcocks up the road.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:39 pm to EagleEye99
They are RPI number 10. They are very good. They have won a national championship in baseball in the recent past. They have a very good program.
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