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re: We're fool's gold

Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:47 am to
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:47 am to
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Having two walk-ons starting in the secondary is inexcusable in year 3


Jayden Johnson and Blair were much worse than Clark last night. Idk why people keep lumping him in with the others. The only time I even heard Clark’s name called was on a PBU
Posted by Porcine Human
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Feb 2016
11210 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 11:14 am to
Clark is definitely playing better than Johnson but we still shouldn’t have to rely on walk-ons.

Johnson seems incapable of tackling in open space.
This post was edited on 9/18/22 at 11:21 am
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13314 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 11:31 am to
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Cincinnati beat themselves


No, we beat them. Pretty thoroughly even.

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SC is TERRIBLE and we struggled far more than a top 10 team should at home


We are overrated, I’ll give you that. We might be a top 15 team, but not top 10. The game was never in doubt, but a top 10 team smacks them down like Georgia did.

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Getting thoroughly outplayed by an FCS team, regardless of what the outcome ends up being.


It happens. Welcom to the world of the transfer portal, and running into a trap game with a former coach who happens to be a genius at exploiting our weakest link. It was pretty easy to tell that our players spent the week looking at our ranking, and listening to the people saying how good they are. Hopefully they learned a valuable lesson, that being the fact that a team isn’t going to lay down just because they aren’t supposed to be able to beat you.
Posted by JeffLebowski
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 9/18/22 at 11:55 am to


FWIW. I’ve had this one circled as a trap game. But I didn’t expect the turnovers and poor tackling. I also felt like our coaches showed their asses a few too many times for comfort. This is pretty typical Arkansas team and cultural behavior when we start moving up in the rankings, so I’m glad we pulled off a W and hope this was an anomaly but won’t be surprised to see us continue to be exploited where were vulnerable. Is what it is right now. ETA: I’d rather be 3-0 than 2-1 with a loss to Petrino.
This post was edited on 9/18/22 at 12:27 pm
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12376 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 12:14 pm to
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We are overrated, I’ll give you that. We might be a top 15 team, but not top 10. The game was never in doubt, but a top 10 team smacks them down like Georgia did.


The #11, #12, and #13 teams all lost to lower ranked (or unranked) teams.

Rankings are largely irrelevant at this point in the season until teams get a few more games under their belt.

We were evidence enough of that last season when we got to #8 and then got boat raced by Georgia. Same for A&M who started out in the top 10 and finished 8-4. Notre Dame is this season's prime example.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21156 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 1:25 pm to
If Arkansas is still ranked in the top 25 at the end of the year then that is a win.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
7734 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 1:35 pm to
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We are overrated, I’ll give you that. We might be a top 15 team, but not top 10. The game was never in doubt, but a top 10 team smacks them down like Georgia did.



You're talking about the defending champs and probably the best team in the country. Almost every year the gap between the best team and the 10th best team is massive
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
22717 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 2:13 pm to
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Almost every year the gap between the best team and the 10th best team is massive




and the gap between the team we have this season and a few season back... is even more massive. Lest we forget
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13314 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:41 am to
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You're talking about the defending champs and probably the best team in the country. Almost every year the gap between the best team and the 10th best team is massive


Sure, but top 10 teams typically don't look as inconsistent on offense as we look at times, and top 10 teams typically don't have a secondary that can be exploited at will by any decent QB and a couple of decent receivers. A top 10 team finds a way around that, either by getting pressure on the QB or disrupting routes, or simply learning to cover better.

Someone posted here or elsewhere, Bumper Pool simply didn't have the legs to spy this QB and keep him from squirting out and getting a first down with his legs. We also seemed unable or unwilling to cover the "safety valve" type receiver, popping out of the backfield or off the line late. Along with the QB scrambles, this was what was preventing our defense from being able to get off the field.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
7734 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:52 am to
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Sure, but top 10 teams typically don't look as inconsistent on offense as we look at times


We are probably always going to be an ugly win kind of team under Pittman. It's never going to look as flashy as it did under Petrino.


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nd top 10 teams typically don't have a secondary that can be exploited at will by any decent QB and a couple of decent receivers


Having so many safety injuries could be a big part of that. We survived it and should be getting Slush back

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A top 10 team finds a way around that, either by getting pressure on the QB or disrupting routes, or simply learning to cover better.


Don't we lead the country in sacks?

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Someone posted here or elsewhere, Bumper Pool simply didn't have the legs to spy this QB and keep him from squirting out and getting a first down with his legs.


I agree. But that was probably one of the more elusive QBs we will face. BYU's QB looks like another tough matchup though.

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We also seemed unable or unwilling to cover the "safety valve" type receiver, popping out of the backfield or off the line late.


I didn't like our defensive scheme much. You could see where they would be able to go with the ball pre snap a lot of the time.

Posted by Mason Dixon Swine
West Finger
Member since Jan 2019
2563 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:28 am to
You guys comparing us to "a top 10 team" are clueless. Every ranking is a rotating door. Only the top 2 or 3 teams look dominant each week. Every season teams like Ok State or Florida or Baylor will lose a game and drop down to 16 and then win a few more games and get back to 7. Only Hog fans will remember this game in a couple years. The point is we turned it on and got the W. Even the glory days with DMac or mallett or the 60s had letdown games
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13314 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:30 am to
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We are probably always going to be an ugly win kind of team under Pittman. It's never going to look as flashy as it did under Petrino.



I don't care at all about flashy, I care about the fact (I haven't checked) that we had more 3 and outs on offense than Missouri State. I care about the fact that we punted more than they did. I care about the fact that they had a higher percentage on 3rd down than we did.

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Having so many safety injuries could be a big part of that. We survived it and should be getting Slush back


I'm sure it will help some, but our level of competition is about to go up a notch or two as well.

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Don't we lead the country in sacks?



We had 7 or 8 against Missouri State, and still gave up over 400 yards of offense. Sacks are great, but I would have traded all of them for containment of that QB, and we would have dominated the way we should have.

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I agree. But that was probably one of the more elusive QBs we will face. BYU's QB looks like another tough matchup though.


LSU's QB is going for 6+ per rush, and has almost 100 yards mor than KJ. Liberty's QB is going almost 6 per, and has more rushing yards than KJ.

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I didn't like our defensive scheme much. You could see where they would be able to go with the ball pre snap a lot of the time.


I'm not sure we had a scheme on either side of the ball. It looked to me like we thought there was no way for them to compete. I hope this game was a wake-up call for everyone.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:32 am to
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Clark is definitely playing better than Johnson but we still shouldn’t have to rely on walk-ons.

Johnson seems incapable of tackling in open space.


Most teams don't have this bad of an injury situation for one position group this early in the season as well
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13314 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:43 am to
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Even the glory days with DMac or mallett


We lost every game of consequence with DMac and Mallett. That may have been their glory days, but not the Razorbacks.

From 1959 to 1965 the Razorbacks finished in the top 10 six times. We've had moments and seasons to revel in, but those are our only glory days.

ETA: At least in my book.
This post was edited on 9/19/22 at 9:45 am
Posted by sugatowng
Look at my bling Bitches
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 10/1/22 at 4:04 pm to
We fricking suck
Posted by cubsfan5150
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15753 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 2:37 pm to
I stand by my OP
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