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hawgndodge
Chicago Cubs Fan
Member since Jun 2009
4030 posts

Vanover is a massive waste of an SEC scholarship
Refuses to jump to rebound.
Can't run the floor.
Constantly out of position.
Slower than anything.

He's a Sun Belt All Conference quality player.


Beached Tusky
Cal State Fullerton Fan
Member since Oct 2016
1175 posts

re: Vanover is a massive waste of an SEC scholarship
He’s tall. He’s not a big.

There’s a difference... Muss knows this better than anyone watching.

Jaylin Williams should be a key to the 2nd half of this one.


FayetteNAM
Arkansas Fan
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
1893 posts

re: Vanover is a massive waste of an SEC scholarship
I just thought to myself #10 is a better big than Vanover.


hawgndodge
Chicago Cubs Fan
Member since Jun 2009
4030 posts

re: Vanover is a massive waste of an SEC scholarship
Exactly.


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hawgndodge
Chicago Cubs Fan
Member since Jun 2009
4030 posts

re: Vanover is a massive waste of an SEC scholarship
He reminds me of the kid from bald knob years ago. Tall, slow, from Arkansas, but he's white so everybody wants him to be good. My father in law is adamant that he's a good player and I guarantee you it's because he's white. He's always made comments about they need more white boys out there. Ridiculous.


dchog
Arkansas Fan
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
3272 posts

re: Vanover is a massive waste of an SEC scholarship
Vanover never had the attitude to be a force in the paint. I don't think Muss intended him to be in that role.


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V Bainbridge
Arkansas Fan
Member since Jul 2020
1333 posts

re: Vanover is a massive waste of an SEC scholarship
You guys are expecting way too much out of him. He is an average player that is really tall. He will be a huge help against some smaller teams and a liability against others. He isn't going to turn into some top 10 pick.

He is what he is and can contribute size and depth for us for a few years. Muss will reel in his shooting after this game.


The Sultan of Swine
Arkansas Fan
Member since Nov 2010
4487 posts

re: Vanover is a massive waste of an SEC scholarship
A little more want-to would really go a long way for him

Edit: I think the OP is an exaggeration but I get the frustration seeing the potential he has. Hr still is a major contributor for this team in many ways
This post was edited on 1/2 at 12:41 pm


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FayetteNAM
Arkansas Fan
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
1893 posts

re: Vanover is a massive waste of an SEC scholarship
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You guys are expecting way too much out of him.

I think most are expecting a Gafford, including me.


FayetteNAM
Arkansas Fan
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
1893 posts

re: Vanover is a massive waste of an SEC scholarship
I’d settle for a Kingsley.


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Razorback Reverend
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Member since Dec 2013
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re: Vanover is a massive waste of an SEC scholarship
yeah was really hoping we would have this game in the bag. Winning on CBS, getting ranked... prior to getting crack whipped at Tenner would be nice.

But... We just do not have what it takes yet!


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hawgndodge
Chicago Cubs Fan
Member since Jun 2009
4030 posts

re: Vanover is a massive waste of an SEC scholarship
I'm expecting him to jump for a rebound. That's all. Nothing more.


Hogwarts
Arkansas Fan
Arkansas, USA
Member since Sep 2015
14877 posts

re: Vanover is a massive waste of an SEC scholarship
It would help if he would quit shooting


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V Bainbridge
Arkansas Fan
Member since Jul 2020
1333 posts

re: Vanover is a massive waste of an SEC scholarship
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I’d settle for a Kingsley.

You are going to get a Steven Hill with more offensive game and less defensive game.

He will get better over the next few years but he isn't going to be a Gafford ever. Maybe a Kingsley in a year or two.


The Sultan of Swine
Arkansas Fan
Member since Nov 2010
4487 posts

re: Vanover is a massive waste of an SEC scholarship
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You are going to get a Steven Hill with more offensive game and less defensive game.


His offensive game is so much better than Hill's, and his defensive game is so much worse. Very different players but maybe about the same value overall


V Bainbridge
Arkansas Fan
Member since Jul 2020
1333 posts

re: Vanover is a massive waste of an SEC scholarship
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Very different players but maybe about the same value overall

Yep. This is exactly what I was saying. People need to stop thinking he is some huge game changer. He has value and will contribute but if we are leaning on him it's not good.


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Poker_hog
Arkansas Fan
Member since Mar 2019
988 posts

re: Vanover is a massive waste of an SEC scholarship
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He is what he is


This. He’s a 7-3 shooter that can block shots. He’s not going to bang with the thick bodies in the league. He misses not having smith down low to push people around.

Until smith gets back may have to play Williams and vanover at the same time with Henderson and Jackson as subs. The 4 guard lineup isn’t working.


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dchog
Arkansas Fan
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
3272 posts

re: Vanover is a massive waste of an SEC scholarship
Hill was more valuable because of his defense and shot blocking ability. Vanover doesn't provide anything right now but he sure as hell needs to become more aggressive.


boogiewoogie1978
Arkansas Fan
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
11431 posts

re: Vanover is a massive waste of an SEC scholarship
Vanover is not supposed to be "the guy" down low. He's in that role due to the Smith injury.


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Riggle
Arkansas Fan
Dogtown
Member since Feb 2013
473 posts

re: Vanover is a massive waste of an SEC scholarship
I think he has the potential to be a really good player for us. It does boggle my mind that he can't finish at the rim when he's 7'3


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