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re: The Indy "bubble" is a total sh*t show right now

Posted on 3/18/21 at 11:10 am to
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 3/18/21 at 11:10 am to
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This only happened in the beginning during the players’ quarantine period when they couldn’t leave their rooms. After that they had Disney’s best chefs making them whatever they wanted because the Disney Parks/hotels were closed and they had nobody else to cook for.

Idk if the NCAA bubble will work, but don’t make up shite because the NBA bubble worked pretty fricking well.
You confirm both of the things I said happened then accuse me of making stuff up. Good one.

Players unhappy with food/accommodations in bubble. Now mulling over protest.

It's damn near a repeat of the NBA bubble. If only someone could have seen this coming...

But hey, at least you got a snarky reply in.
This post was edited on 3/18/21 at 11:18 am
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 3/18/21 at 11:20 am to
I read about the protest earlier. Let's see how this goes.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/18/21 at 12:22 pm to
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It definitely wasn't flawless.


Sure but for what it was trying to do, it worked. A lot of people thought it wouldn't even get completed and fall apart.

I don't think the "didn't work for the nba" is right. Of course that doesn't mean that the NCAA should try it just because the NBA did, many different factors between the NBA and NCAA.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 3/18/21 at 1:00 pm to
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Sure but for what it was trying to do, it worked.
We just finished a whole college basketball season without a bubble. It's pretty clear by now you don't have to take these measures to play sports. Subjecting healthy players to this kind of living situation for upwards of a month isn't and has never been an acceptable solution to me. When everyone involved hates it, I don't call that success.
This post was edited on 3/18/21 at 1:03 pm
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/18/21 at 1:04 pm to
Living in a nice hotel and not paying for shite for a month? Oh the misery.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 3/18/21 at 1:06 pm to
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Living in a nice hotel and not paying for shite for a month? Oh the misery.
Confine yourself to a 600 square foot room living off of frozen dinners for that time period and come back and post this.

You're acting like they're free to mingle about the hotel and enjoy all the amenities. They aren't.
This post was edited on 3/18/21 at 1:09 pm
Posted by HogX
Madison, WI
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/18/21 at 1:07 pm to
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Confine yourself to a 600 square foot room living off of frozen dinners for that time period and come back and post this.


Ah, I miss college.
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/18/21 at 1:09 pm to
I've done very similar in the Middle East for months on end and in Estonia and Bulgaria for seven straight months
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 3/18/21 at 1:09 pm to
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We just finished a whole college basketball season without a bubble. It's pretty clear by now you don't have to take these measures to play sports. Subjecting healthy players to this kind of living situation for upwards of a month isn't and has never been an acceptable solution to me.


Sure and I can agree but that starts to be a different issue. I can say the NBA bubble worked but isn't the best fit for the NCAA for many reasons.

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When everyone involved hates it, I don't call that success.


I mean there were plenty of players that were not happy about certain aspects of it but most would still pick that over not playing.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57875 posts
Posted on 3/18/21 at 1:12 pm to
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I've done very similar in the Middle East for months on end and in Estonia and Bulgaria for seven straight months
Please tell me you're not trying to compare overseas military service (with pay) to some dudes trying to play a basketball tournament...

Actually, go ahead with that comparison. It only helps to point out how ridiculous this is.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57875 posts
Posted on 3/18/21 at 1:27 pm to
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I can say the NBA bubble worked but isn't the best fit for the NCAA for many reasons.
It "worked" solely in the facet that no one got infected. But to say it went off "flawlessly" and without a hitch like some here are suggesting is just ignoring the reality of what happened. Media backlash is what led to the improved conditions for players. Now here we are watching the same cycle repeat itself. Just doesn't make any sense to me to act like the first bubble was an amazing success when there were clearly problems with it, and that being with Mickey Mouse money and accommodations. As you said, the NCAA doesn't even have those advantages so the idea seems even worse.

Bubbles are not only unnecessary, they're just functionally a bad idea. There's no merit in confining already healthy people into hotel room cells and forbidding them contact with other healthy people.
This post was edited on 3/18/21 at 1:33 pm
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 3/18/21 at 1:55 pm to
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It "worked" solely in the facet that no one got infected.


100% this was the biggest concern, we can go on and on about how the concern was over hyped and that these players fit demographics that would be virtually fine if infected in 99% of cases.

That is why I view it as an overall success and that the bubble did work. Obviously there were going to be some issues because it was such a strange and new concept. I would never agree with someone who said it was perfect or flawless but I think it went about as well as it could have in a bubble.

I'm not agreeing with the reality people are living in but I accept that it is what it is and want the best possible situation from that reality.


Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
7795 posts
Posted on 3/18/21 at 2:05 pm to
The entire NCAA system is a lie in both football and basketball. I hope we get to watch it crash and burn.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57875 posts
Posted on 3/18/21 at 2:09 pm to
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want the best possible situation from that reality.
Agree. I think we all do. I guess that's why I'm so disappointed with how they've tried to handle it so far. I don't see the reasoning for the insistence on such a heavy-handed approach knowing it negatively impacts the people providing the product we're trying to preserve to the point of protest.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 3/18/21 at 2:40 pm to
I think we also have to remember that the NCAA came up with this plan awhile back. If the NCAA could snap their fingers and go back a normal tournament with testing, I think they would but were already committed to this idea.
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2009
13230 posts
Posted on 3/18/21 at 4:29 pm to
Mike Leach said it best, in regards to this past football season. His quote also still applies to the unnecessary meddling of the NCAA of this bubble idea:

“In the end, together with all the commotion and clutter, we’ve created one of the most joyless seasons on Earth. And hopefully we have the presence of mind to not repeat it this way again.”

Hopefully all of this garbage and the interruption of normal life is behind us at this point next year.
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
16317 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 12:02 am to
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You confirm both of the things I said happened then accuse me of making stuff up. Good one.



I only confirmed that both of those things you brought up weren't actual issues at all and did not in any way make the NBA bubble a failure like you said it was.

Posted by oklahogjr
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 3/19/21 at 9:05 am to
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“In the end, together with all the commotion and clutter, we’ve created one of the most joyless seasons on Earth. And hopefully we have the presence of mind to not repeat it this way again.”

This is kind of assanine. While yeah I would have loved the normal situation they atleast got to play the games and have a season. Did everyone forget about how awesome last year's season end and tournament was?
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21247 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 10:18 am to
The only thing I remember was the win against Vandy.
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