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Posted on 9/17/23 at 7:37 pm to ArHog
Posted on 9/17/23 at 7:37 pm to ArHog
That is correct. If they really cared then they wouldn't be so bad.
You got to give it your all and leave your best on and off the field.
Arkansas refuses to do that.
I dread the day when Dave retires. I'm surprised he can put up with these idiots for so long.
When you have losers who have wealth and influence and others who make all the important decisions then you're screwed.
You got to give it your all and leave your best on and off the field.
Arkansas refuses to do that.
I dread the day when Dave retires. I'm surprised he can put up with these idiots for so long.
When you have losers who have wealth and influence and others who make all the important decisions then you're screwed.
This post was edited on 9/17/23 at 7:38 pm
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 8:15 pm to Feral
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Lebby to come here as OC
Not going to happen.
He runs the Briles offense, since Art is his father in law, and Kendall is his brother in law. He coached at Baylor… he isn’t coming here.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 8:20 pm to FayetteNAM
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Not going to happen.
He runs the Briles offense, since Art is his father in law, and Kendall is his brother in law. He coached at Baylor… he isn’t coming here.
This isn’t me hating on Briles, I liked him.
Everyone else ran him off, and I doubt that family comes back.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 9:40 pm to FayetteNAM
Art would come but that's it and we all know that won't happen.
Feels like dam and hunter burned the bridge with Kendall and Lebby by default.
Reslisticslly, you're probably going to have to go after a souther G5 coach who is hungry as hell like a Chadwell.
Feels like dam and hunter burned the bridge with Kendall and Lebby by default.
Reslisticslly, you're probably going to have to go after a souther G5 coach who is hungry as hell like a Chadwell.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 10:21 pm to dchog
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He said it wasn't a big deal. Well Sam it is a big deal because those same players still remember the PTSD of the Chad years and know when it doesn't go your way, just quit.
Not just Chad. The following were times we blew a three score lead after halftime:
In 2012, we were up 28–7 against ULM when they scored with 5:41 left in the third quarter.
In 2013, we were up 24–7 against Rutgers when they scored with 2:14 left in the third quarter.
In 2016, we were up 24–7 against Missouri when they scored with 11:53 left in the third quarter.
In 2016, we were up 24–0 on Virginia Tech when they scored with 13:27 left in the third quarter.
The only time we've ever done anything remotely similar in that timeframe was when Ole Miss was up 31–7 and we started a slow comeback with a TD with 2:44 left before halftime, but the next year we were up by 17 with two minutes left before the half, and we ended up losing that game.
Last year we were up 42–6 on Ole Miss before they scored 21 unanswered points in the fourth quarter and time lapsed before they could complete the obvious comeback. We were up 38–13 on Kansas in the middle of the third quarter before needing triple OT to win.
We've lost to eight (8) G5 teams in that timespan, and it's taken halftime comebacks to beat multiple FCS teams. That's damn near one G5 loss per year over a decade. And that's not considering all the times when we had a game like yesterday, or aTm last year, when we went up a quick 14–0 or so and looked untouchable, only to inexplicably remember we're not allowed to do that.
Out of curiosity, I compared all the other SEC teams' losses to G5 opponents from 2012–2022:
Arkansas - 8
Vanderbilt - 4
Missouri - 3 (one loss was in a bowl game)
Mississippi State - 3
Kentucky - 2
Ole Miss - 2
Tennessee - 2
Auburn - 2 (one loss was in a bowl game)
South Carolina - 2 (one loss was in a bowl game)
Florida - 1 (their one loss was in a bowl game)
LSU - 1
Texas A&M - 1
Alabama - 0
Georgia - 0
It's worth noting that Florida, South Carolina, and Vanderbilt all lost to one FCS team, so that's something.
We're double the next worst team, which is of course Vanderbilt.
I do wonder how this persists through multiple coaches and entire rosters.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 6:49 am to VagueMessage
quote:this is why I hate the excuse some of our fans make about us not having the talent to compete in the sec. Talent hasn’t been our biggest issue the last decade, coaching is. Yeah it doesn’t help we don’t have as much talent as other sec schools, but us losing games like Saturday isn’t because of lack of talent. It’s because of piss poor development and coaching
We've lost to eight (8) G5 teams in that timespan, and it's taken halftime comebacks to beat multiple FCS teams. That's damn near one G5 loss per year over a decade. And that's not considering all the times when we had a game like yesterday, or aTm last year, when we went up a quick 14–0 or so and looked untouchable, only to inexplicably remember we're not allowed to do that. Out of curiosity, I compared all the other SEC teams' losses to G5 opponents from 2012–2022: Arkansas - 8 Vanderbilt - 4 Missouri - 3 (one loss was in a bowl game) Mississippi State - 3 Kentucky - 2 Ole Miss - 2 Tennessee - 2 Auburn - 2 (one loss was in a bowl game) South Carolina - 2 (one loss was in a bowl game) Florida - 1 (their one loss was in a bowl game) LSU - 1 Texas A&M - 1 Alabama - 0 Georgia - 0 It's worth noting that Florida, South Carolina, and Vanderbilt all lost to one FCS team, so that's something. We're double the next worst team, which is of course Vanderbilt.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 7:17 am to ArHog
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Dave calls it quits
Older right now than when Norm called it quits.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 7:20 am to Jack Ruby
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Art would come but that's it and we all know that won't happen.
Well yeah he is a mercenary. But he got ran off at a Texas high school for sexual stuff a couple years ago. Also he is old now isn’t he?
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Reslisticslly, you're probably going to have to go after a souther G5 coach who is hungry as hell like a Chadwell.
I remember his wife saying she wouldn’t let him leave the south. And preferably North Carolina… white trash riviera areas. Dirty Myrtles.
This post was edited on 9/18/23 at 7:22 am
Posted on 9/18/23 at 7:24 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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this is why I hate the excuse some of our fans make about us not having the talent to compete in the sec. Talent hasn’t been our biggest issue the last decade, coaching is. Yeah it doesn’t help we don’t have as much talent as other sec schools, but us losing games like Saturday isn’t because of lack of talent. It’s because of piss poor development and coaching
This is the reason I am so angry.
We are losing because of two things, Offensive Line and a nice guy pussy coach.
And he is a pussy because he went on another ban spree after the BYU game. I don’t care if it’s a social media manager.
This post was edited on 9/18/23 at 7:26 am
Posted on 9/18/23 at 11:04 am to FayetteNAM
Even though he is old, 63, I like the Tulane coach for a good 5-7 year window. See UNC and Mack Brown
Posted on 9/18/23 at 11:09 am to jb4
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Even though he is old, 63, I like the Tulane coach for a good 5-7 year window. See UNC and Mack Brown
We are already in an old man conservatorship.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 2:56 pm to Hank Murphy
Does not matter who coaches Arkansas.
Hogs will always be 2nd to 3rd tier SEC team.
30 years should be enough proof.
Hogs will always be 2nd to 3rd tier SEC team.
30 years should be enough proof.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 4:12 pm to HogsOfWar
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30 years should be enough proof.
Facts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 4:17 pm to HogsOfWar
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Does not matter who coaches Arkansas.
Hogs will always be 2nd to 3rd tier SEC team.
30 years should be enough proof.
Not with new rules. A superstar can recruit free agents. No one is stacking 5 stars. Prime just showed you how to flip a roster. It's all about money, evaluating, and clout now.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 4:39 pm to Jack Ruby
Kliff Kingsbury, frick it. It would at least be hype and we'd score points
Posted on 9/18/23 at 4:43 pm to boogiewoogie1978
He also has his son playing QB for him who happens to be really good lol. They definitely look good but haven't exactly played a powerhouse yet and went to OT with Colorado State.
Ole Miss cleaned up in the portal too though and they look solid. I really thought we had a good portal haul and for the most part we did but having a poor OL just completely ruins everything else you try to do. Needed to go get an OT.
Ole Miss cleaned up in the portal too though and they look solid. I really thought we had a good portal haul and for the most part we did but having a poor OL just completely ruins everything else you try to do. Needed to go get an OT.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 4:56 pm to Hubbhogg
quote:As an OC. Doubt anyone is beating down his door to be HC.
Kliff Kingsbury, frick it. It would at least be hype and we'd score points
Posted on 9/18/23 at 5:56 pm to silverstreak
Kliff is a terrible HC.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 6:55 pm to Jack Ruby
Sure but I like the offense.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 7:35 pm to HogsOfWar
Keep hiring bad coaches then yes indeed that is the truth.
Jack Crowe
Danny Ford
Houston Nutt
Bobby Petrino
Bert
Chad
Pittman
Only a few on that list is decent and the rest have not only been fired at Arkansas but got fired at jobs after leaving Arkansas.
But it doesn't matter when the program has a loser culture that breeds loser mentalities.
It is more than trying to be the best but doing the best that you can.
Arkansas hasn't done that on the field since 2011.
Jack Crowe
Danny Ford
Houston Nutt
Bobby Petrino
Bert
Chad
Pittman
Only a few on that list is decent and the rest have not only been fired at Arkansas but got fired at jobs after leaving Arkansas.
But it doesn't matter when the program has a loser culture that breeds loser mentalities.
It is more than trying to be the best but doing the best that you can.
Arkansas hasn't done that on the field since 2011.
This post was edited on 9/18/23 at 7:38 pm
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