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Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:34 pm to cigsmcgee
He won't win his championship game. In fact, I expect he gets his arse kicked again.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:35 pm to BoarEd
Hard to beat a good team twice
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:43 pm to Stonehog
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Why don't you compare win loss records using offense and defense rankings AT ARKANSAS.
cfbstats only goes back to 2008 so that's what I'm using. It would be interesting to go back further, but I'm not going to.
2011 was our best record, 11-2. #29 offense (#t3) and #47 defense (#3) Average of offense and defense 38.0 (#3)
2010 was next, 10-3. #9 offense (#1) and #36 defense (#2) Average: 22.5 (#1)
2015 was next, 8-5. #29 offense (#t3) and #58 defense (#4) Average: 43.5 (#4)
2009 was next, 8-5. #19 offense (#2) and #89 defense (#9) Average: 54.0 (#5)
2014 was next, 7-6. #63 offense (#6) and #10 defense (#1) Average: 36.5 (#2)
2016 was next, 7-6. #54 offense (#5) and #75 defense (#7) Average: 64.5 (#8)
2008 was next, 5-7. #49 offense (#t4) and #72 defense (#5) Average: 60.5 (#6)
2012 was next, 4-8. #49 offense (#t4) and #74 defense (#6) Average: 61.5 (#7)
2013 is last, 3-9. #100 offense (#7) and #76 defense (#8) Average: 88.0 (#9)
We averaged #44.55 in the country on offense over that 9 year span, and #59.67 on defense.
Our #1 defense year, we were #63 on offense.
Our #1 offense year, we were #36 on defense.
I'm all numbered out. Someone else can interpret.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 10:02 pm to troyt37
Ok so now that I step back and look at it, the Petrino years we all want to get back to were the #2 and #3 defenses in our last 9 years. Hmmm...
Posted on 11/30/17 at 10:16 pm to troyt37
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Ok so now that I step back and look at it, the Petrino years we all want to get back to were the #2 and #3 defenses in our last 9 years. Hmmm...
Right and 3 of our top 4 offenses
Posted on 11/30/17 at 10:16 pm to BoarEd
Our defense would be greatly improved if our offense could sustain drives. 3 and outs by the offense hurt us as much as any poor tackling or getting burned deep.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 10:25 pm to troyt37
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Ok so now that I step back and look at it, the Petrino years we all want to get back to were the #2 and #3 defenses in our last 9 years. Hmmm...
How about the offenses Troy?
Posted on 11/30/17 at 10:36 pm to Maytheporkbewithyou
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Our defense would be greatly improved if our offense could sustain drives. 3 and outs by the offense hurt us as much as any poor tackling or getting burned deep.
I've said this ad nauseum the last 2 years, but I never felt like Enos caught enough shite for his hand in the defensive collapses. Our defense would play above their heads for a half only to be hung out to dry by the offense via 3-and-outs and scoreless stretches.
A lot of those collapses are due to Herb's horrendous S&C program, but the offense had a big hand via their futility as well.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 10:43 pm to Stonehog
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How about the offenses Troy?
Numbers 3 and 1, which I expected. #2 was an 8-5 year, sucky defense.
So, by those numbers, we need a coach who can bring us a top 20 or better offense and defense, and can do it in the SEC West.
Norvell probably fits the bill on offense. Kiffin and Leach probably as well. I think Kiffin would be more likely to hire a DC capable of this, given his pedigree, but he is my least favorite of those 3.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:09 am to troyt37
Yeah, at least Kiffin has seen and worked against elite defenses esp during practice at Bama. Leach had a good defense this season and has coached against some good ones. Norvell not so much, I guess whatever he went up against while OC at AZ St is about it.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:20 am to troyt37
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So, by those numbers, we need a coach who can bring us a top 20 or better offense and defense, and can do it in the SEC West
I think you need a defense first coach. We have seen offensive coordinators here bring a strong offense. Hell, Dan Enos did it. But the defensive side isn't so easy (cuz Arkansas, duh).
So, you throw your big money at getting the best defensive coach you can. There are numerous dudes who can do it on offense.
ETA: So again, I would direct everyone's attention to Brent Venables. (Lol). The guy is the best defensive coordinator in the nation, IMO, and he has shown he can build top defenses year in and out while working with a dynamic offense (which is something else we need).
He is our best option. I hope to hell the people in charge realize this.
This post was edited on 12/1/17 at 12:24 am
Posted on 12/1/17 at 7:32 am to BoarEd
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I think you need a defense first coach.
I would agree. We are going to be gambling anyway. Gamble on the guy who almost assuredly brings with him a top defense. There are a hell of a lot more national champions with offenses outside the top 10 than there are with defenses outside the top 10.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 8:25 am to BoarEd
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So again, I would direct everyone's attention to Brent Venables. (Lol). The guy is the best defensive coordinator in the nation, IMO, and he has shown he can build top defenses year in and out while working with a dynamic offense (which is something else we need).
What the frick dude. Are you Brent Venables? Jesus Christ.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 8:39 am to Stonehog
The fact that there are so many offense minded, and so few defense minded guys available should tell us a couple of things. One, that if there is a defensive guru type coach available, you should be after him, and two, that the abundance of offensive minded coaches should make it easier to find an OC that can get you where you want to be.
Do you know of any other defensive minded coaches who might be available?
Do you know of any other defensive minded coaches who might be available?
Posted on 12/1/17 at 8:48 am to BoarEd
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He is our best option. I hope to hell the people in charge realize this.
Quit trolling dude.
If he's so good then why aren't any other schools with a vacancy pursuing him?
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:10 am to Stonehog
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If he's so good then why aren't any other schools with a vacancy pursuing him?
Rather an odd question from someone who agrees with the majority of fans here, and thinks all the answers lie in having an offensive minded coach above all else, isn't it? No doubt, the majority of the college football world seems to agree with you guys, but the facts and recent college football history says you are wrong.
5 of the last 17 national champions had an offense in the top 10.
14 of the last 17 national champions had a defense in the top 10.
It's that simple.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 10:34 am to troyt37
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14 of the last 17 national champions had a defense in the top 10.
It's that simple.
17 of the last 17 national champions recruit much better than Arkansas. Why do you continue to disregard this fact?
Posted on 12/1/17 at 10:57 am to Stonehog
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What the frick dude. Are you Brent Venables? Jesus Christ.
Hey Stonehog.
We should hire Venables. I bet you'll be pretty pissed if he ends up being the guy. Lol
Posted on 12/1/17 at 10:59 am to BoarEd
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We should hire Venables.
No we shouldn't. He's a hot head with no leadership qualities. That's why he's a lifetime assistant.
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I bet you'll be pretty pissed if he ends up being the guy.
Already said I would support him but it would be a terrible hire.
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