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NIL Question Re: our AD
Posted on 11/15/23 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 11/15/23 at 6:05 pm
So, I’m behind. I noticed that someone had stated that HY is against NIL? Is this true?
Posted on 11/15/23 at 6:13 pm to JeffLebowski
it better not be;
he doesn't have to like it, but he has to understand that's the name of the game these days; period;
he doesn't have to like it, but he has to understand that's the name of the game these days; period;
Posted on 11/15/23 at 6:37 pm to JeffLebowski
Mizzou punk posted a Hawgbeat piece on the SRant just a bit ago. Doesn't come off well but has some good points. More thought provoking than anything.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 6:49 pm to JeffLebowski
He's against a 50/50 split of revenue since it would lead to having to discontinue all the non-revenue producing sports.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 6:50 pm to SmackoverHawg
Gotta win 33 championships somewhere.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 7:20 pm to DaleDenton
Hunter (and mainly his weak-minded BOT) don't want the common folk contributing to an NIL fund when they would normally have to be forced to only give to thew a school/foundation.
We can't have that now can we? We have to take the 'righteous and moral' highground until we've gone full Vandy. (when in essence its all about greed from the school).
It's a joke that the school fights common folk collectives like they do and then cry poor...
We can't have that now can we? We have to take the 'righteous and moral' highground until we've gone full Vandy. (when in essence its all about greed from the school).
It's a joke that the school fights common folk collectives like they do and then cry poor...
Posted on 11/15/23 at 7:27 pm to JeffLebowski
I don’t know if Hunter is against it, but I know he’s not serious about it LINK. Making a coaching change may get us back to 6-6, but until you start seeing Arkansas players on that list….we won’t be sniffing a playoff bid.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 7:53 pm to Columbia
I’ve seen that link before. I could swear that I’ve also seen that KJ is like 750K-1mil. If that is true though, I’m laughing.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 11:18 pm to JeffLebowski
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Gotta win 33 championships somewhere.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 4:22 am to JeffLebowski
The info in that link is worthless.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 7:25 am to Columbia
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I don’t know if Hunter is against it, but I know he’s not serious about it LINK. Making a coaching change may get us back to 6-6, but until you start seeing Arkansas players on that list….we won’t be sniffing a playoff bid.
That list is how much their name is worth, not how much they are actually making. We will never know how much any of them make because their not getting paid from the state/government.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 7:47 am to FayetteNAM
We need to start thinking about these NIL deals in terms of efficiency. Paying a mid level (at best) QB a million and then complaining about there not being enough NIL at Arkansas is not the way to go.
If we can’t compete with the big dogs NIL wise, we need to be smart about it. There’s a lot of ways to go about it. I’m just saying NIL is as much about the way it’s used as it is the total $.
The Yankees haven’t won’t the World Series in a decade plus
If we can’t compete with the big dogs NIL wise, we need to be smart about it. There’s a lot of ways to go about it. I’m just saying NIL is as much about the way it’s used as it is the total $.
The Yankees haven’t won’t the World Series in a decade plus
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:03 am to The Sultan of Swine
We have the money. We choose not to play the NIL game. I don’t think it’s smart based on how much and how long we’ve sucked more than not. That said, agree that there are better ways to utilize NIL money like Utah giving all of their linemen new trucks, but on lease. Set up deals like that where they get it end of season or whenever makes sense if they perform or we lose a lot less if they don’t. Lord knows it’s better than giving someone $1mil and a Corvette -#Money4Nothing&Chicks4Free
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:06 am to The Sultan of Swine
Yankees suffer from poor management just like Arkansas football.
I guess the only good thing is that Arkansas doesn't spend like A&M and go 5-7.
I guess the only good thing is that Arkansas doesn't spend like A&M and go 5-7.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:09 am to JeffLebowski
I don't think we're on the same page exactly. We absolutely have to play the game if everyone else is. I don't love NIL but sky screaming about it won't help.
I'm not talking about spending less. Or putting stipulations on it. I'm talking about a HC/staff being intricately involved in putting that money where it can get the most value.
We can honestly have an advantage here because the Bama's, Ohio State's of the world are going to end up overpaying for the big names.
I'm not talking about spending less. Or putting stipulations on it. I'm talking about a HC/staff being intricately involved in putting that money where it can get the most value.
We can honestly have an advantage here because the Bama's, Ohio State's of the world are going to end up overpaying for the big names.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:15 am to JeffLebowski
It's only a matter of time before College Football is NFL Lite. Playoffs. Free Agency. Paying players. Salary Cap. It's all coming.
I think we eventually up with like a 40 team semi pro league.
I think we eventually up with like a 40 team semi pro league.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:17 am to The Sultan of Swine
In the NFL it's all about understanding where your money is going to be effective. Teams get advantages by realizing they can skate by with mediocre players at certain positions like RB, sometimes CB.
Sometimes you can even win by paying less at the most important position, QB, because the top guys end up being paid even more than their value.
There's not one answer here, but I would really like a coach who's putting a lot of analysis into these types of questions. Sam is coming off as "Welp we didn't have enough money to fill out the roster properly, nothing I can do about that"
Sometimes you can even win by paying less at the most important position, QB, because the top guys end up being paid even more than their value.
There's not one answer here, but I would really like a coach who's putting a lot of analysis into these types of questions. Sam is coming off as "Welp we didn't have enough money to fill out the roster properly, nothing I can do about that"
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:38 am to The Sultan of Swine
I’ll agree on that. My preference would be to accept it because it’s here and spend. But if our AD and boosters want to be chincy about it, they could put stipulations(I think that would be just another dumb move but I’m being realistic on the dumb decisions our entire AD and BOT make time after time). Totally agree that certain positions are more valuable than others and careful evaluation should go into what positions the most money goes toward and why(with the exception of those “must get” players if they’re homegrown or high interest).
Posted on 11/16/23 at 9:48 am to JeffLebowski
If our NIL is even close to that low, you can stick a fork in the program. No coach worth anything is going to try to compete with the other programs on that list.
I switched the list over to basketball and I'm getting "*chuckles* I'm in danger" spidey senses. If its even remotely accurate, that's not good for the future of that program as well.
ETA: That On3 list is doo-doo. Here is how they get their numbers:
"On3 NIL Valuation calculates an athlete’s Brand Value and Roster Value by using data points targeting three primary categories — performance, influence and exposure."
Mostly meaningless, however, I've heard from multiple people associated with the program that NIL is problematic and is going to be problematic unless something changes. I've said before, its not just the big fish like the Hunts, its about having a lot of smaller fish, like LSU has with Todd Graves (Raisin Canes founder) just a single example of many die-hard LSU boosters that we don't have.
I switched the list over to basketball and I'm getting "*chuckles* I'm in danger" spidey senses. If its even remotely accurate, that's not good for the future of that program as well.
ETA: That On3 list is doo-doo. Here is how they get their numbers:
"On3 NIL Valuation calculates an athlete’s Brand Value and Roster Value by using data points targeting three primary categories — performance, influence and exposure."
Mostly meaningless, however, I've heard from multiple people associated with the program that NIL is problematic and is going to be problematic unless something changes. I've said before, its not just the big fish like the Hunts, its about having a lot of smaller fish, like LSU has with Todd Graves (Raisin Canes founder) just a single example of many die-hard LSU boosters that we don't have.
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 10:05 am
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