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re: Negatives / Positives on BP as HC

Posted on 10/17/25 at 8:02 am to
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8950 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 8:02 am to
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Why not?


Contrarian.

All this really depends on if Hunter is still here, and if we hire a GM that is solely dedicated to football.
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19025 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 8:37 am to
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Offense is top 5 nationally.


Aren’t we like 18/18 in the red zone?

BPs offense craps on KBs.

#6 vs #34 in current total offense ranking and ahead of them in basically everything else.
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
68816 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 8:46 am to
Nah he's wrong. Recruiting alone doesn't win you a natty in basketball, or really anything for that matter. One is an all time Hall of Famer typically ranked in the top 10 coaches of all time for CBB. Muss had a couple of decent runs at Arkansas and that was it at the peak of his career.
This post was edited on 10/17/25 at 8:47 am
Posted by Poker_hog
Member since Mar 2019
3508 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 8:55 am to
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Why not? Every coach in my lifetime brings in like 25-35th ranked talent here


So did ole miss until they got someone they could build an NIL fund around. Same for mizzou. Not sure the donor class is going to unite behind someone that didn’t leave on the best of terms.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
8948 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:16 am to
Still Ole miss is ranked 2 spots above us in team talent. 21st vs 23rd. The difference out of the world recruiter would make for us would be marginal.

We are never going to recruit like Bama or LSU. Our path to beating those teams is an incredible offensive scheme and a really good QB, which is just as likely to be brought in by a Bobby P type as it is by anyone else
This post was edited on 10/17/25 at 9:20 am
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8950 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:45 am to
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So did ole miss until they got someone they could build an NIL fund around. Same for mizzou. Not sure the donor class is going to unite behind someone that didn’t leave on the best of terms.


All it will take is a GM who can build a team and a coach that can coach the team he is given. That and not making stupid contracts. Quit over paying RB, why Lane told Judkins to walk, and never missed a step.
Posted by Barneyrb
NELA
Member since May 2016
7049 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 11:39 am to
Does anyone know what our NIL spend is currently? I'm talking about what monies the players actually receive.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
8948 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 11:53 am to
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So did ole miss until they got someone they could build an NIL fund around. Same for mizzou. Not sure the donor class is going to unite behind someone that didn’t leave on the best of terms.


All it will take is a GM who can build a team and a coach that can coach the team he is given. That and not making stupid contracts. Quit over paying RB, why Lane told Judkins to walk, and never missed a step.


Exactly.

Chambliss was the 60th ranked QB in the transfer portal.

Ole Miss having better NIL is a BS Pittman excuse. We made terrible decisions at every turn. Giving KJ that huge contract. Redshirting players for Lane. I'm sure we overpaid like crazy for Braylen Russel given all the drama during the offseason.

For the whole Pittman tenure we've had no idea how to manage a roster - and that's part of why nobody wanted to give him what he wanted NIL wise. You could give Pittman more talent than Lane and he would still not have better results than him
Posted by Poker_hog
Member since Mar 2019
3508 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 12:31 pm to
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Recruiting alone doesn't win you a natty in basketball, or really anything for that matter. One is an all time Hall of Famer typically ranked in the top 10 coaches of all time for CBB.


Cal is the best recruiter in the history of ncaa basketball. Most of the time he has a top 3 class. He has underperformed based the wealth of talent he has had. Thats why UK was fine to let him walk.

I’m happy to have him and he’s our best coach since Nolan but it’s only cus he gets great players. Given the same roster I’d probably rather have mus.

It’s the same with prime CBP vs Kirby smart. I’d rather have Kirby but take talent out of the equation and I’d take CBP.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
26846 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 12:57 pm to
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If Jerry really wanted us to win a title, he could fund the entire NIL himself for less than he pays Dak alone. The problem is he would want to be everything from GM to HC to equipment manager in return.



I think I heard something about it violating the NFL rules on conflict of interest for Jerry to fund any college NIL. Not sure if that’s true or not.


Even if it didn't I remember the last times Jerry got to call the shots (which he will if he funds the NIL) and it landed us Choad. I'd rather follow one of the Walton's around to see what money falls out of their pocket.
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
68816 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 1:05 pm to
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Most of the time he has a top 3 class.


Exactly. Doesn't mean much in CBB with how the tournament is. Exactly why UF just won a title as a non top 25 metric team and a 64th ranking transfer class. Talent is great to have but without anything else it is meaningless.

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I’d probably rather have mus.


Lmao. I'll take the HoFer you can have the never won anything guy with back to back terrible seasons.
Posted by razorbackfan4life
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2011
9154 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 1:24 pm to
I'll gladly eat crow, but I HIGHLY doubt we get anyone remotely close to BP's coaching ability.

So why in the hell would we take a downgrade?

Bobby doesn't have to be likeable... it's all about the money.

You give him a good amount of NIL and he will dominate.

Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8950 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 3:02 pm to
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Does anyone know what our NIL spend is currently? I'm talking about what monies the players actually receive.


Saw an infographic and it said 8-10… which is crazy when they say we paid KJ $1m Taylen $1m and Madden $500k which means we paid the two back ups that stayed more. Obviously none of the money made it to the second and 3rd most expensive people we need, linemen offense and defense.
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
13995 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 4:18 pm to
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I’m happy to have him and he’s our best coach since Nolan but it’s only cus he gets great players. Given the same roster I’d probably rather have mus.


I understand what you're saying with the talent, but it was pretty evident that Cal wasn't sitting on his duff last season. The way the team improved over the course of the season was due to coaching.

Last season, Cal made a massive mistake signing such a small class. Looks like he learned his lesson.

I remember Petrino had specific physical traits that he recruited and he wasn't necessarily beholden to the * rankings. He got the players in amd then coached them up.

I'm not sold on anyone, yet, but it was obvious that the team was better after 2 weeks of Bobby's coaching. Makes you wonder what he could do with a GM and a large NIL fund. I'm sure tha5 could be said for a lot of coaches.

I'm also still high on Golesh and Silverfield.
Posted by HAWGWALLOP
Rogers
Member since Feb 2016
170 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 7:15 pm to
Scored more than the current guy. Also his guys didn't turn it over much.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
24061 posts
Posted on 10/18/25 at 7:21 pm to
Well, let's just get it over with and hire BP now... let him get to work on recruiting, staffing, etc.

This is fun again at least. Whew Pig Sooie... is back at least!
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43594 posts
Posted on 10/18/25 at 7:32 pm to
With the shitty name list HY dropped to the media and the even shittier lost his search firm has already contacted, just shut it down, let BP hire the staff and start fundraising to rebuild the roster for next season.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
31070 posts
Posted on 10/18/25 at 8:03 pm to
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Well, let's just get it over with and hire BP now... let him get to work on recruiting, staffing, etc.

This is fun again at least. Whew Pig Sooie... is back at least!

Agree. With a BMFP offense, you're never out of the game.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
65255 posts
Posted on 10/18/25 at 8:04 pm to
I will never forgive Travis Williams. This could have been a great team if he had an ounce of competence as a defensive coordinator.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
41517 posts
Posted on 10/18/25 at 8:07 pm to
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let BP hire the staff and start fundraising to rebuild the roster for next season.


Honestly I’ve come to the conclusion that this is the best option. The big knock on Bobby is that his teams all fall off after year 5 because he’s not a great recruiter. I think this current era of college football is perfect for him because instead of having to recruit 18 year olds and their parents he can rebuild his roster each season through business transactions. Players developed elsewhere want to put up numbers and he can do that for you. I’m all for giving him the keys right now and let’s go.
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