re: Arkansas picked last in the West

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So now we're blaming Bielema for recruiting two 4 star in-state quarterbacks?

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OL that can't keep the defense out of the backfield plus receivers that couldn't get open will make a 5* QB look bad as well.

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Do we fire him if he loses to Portland State in the opener?

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Hell yeah we have to. If we lose to Portland State and he's not fired, people are going to fly banners over the stadium.

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Is Morris fired if he has a worst record than Bielema after year 5? 

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If he doesn't get to at least 6-6 in year 3 he's likely out of here.

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SMU's recruiting classes were in the 70's and 80's, Arkansas averaged a top 25 class. Are you seriously going to argue that SMU was more talented?

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Go look at like the 4 4 *s from each of bert's classes. those super top heavy classes of his. Then see how many contributed in any way. Here I'll fricking help you asshat.

Brian Wallace. Started, but was average at best.

Jamario bell. Totally wasted in every way. Never has contributed. Still 2nd string at best in year 5.

Jake Heinrich. Medical problems.

The one offensive linemen who had the afro. Medical hardship.

The center who started like 3 games when ragnow got hurt. Left when he would have started.

Briston guidry. Never started. Injury bug.

Ty storey. LOL

Calloway. Started 1 game. Got burnt. Then acted a fool. Kicked off of team.

Devwah whaley. Has been a career 2nd string who's best year was his freshman, and now has injury history.

The juco WR that came in with nance. Never did shite. Kicked off of team.

Montaric brown. So far has been redshirted, and 2nd string. May (and I do say may) start this year, but is considered worse than the low 3* guy mccellion.

NEED I frickING GO ON? THERE ARE MORE!

so go back to those classes. Kick every fricking 4 star off of those classes. See where we are ranked.

NOT TO MENTION SOME OF THE HIGH 3*S DIDNT PAN OUT YET.

koilan Jackson has yet to contribute due to injury and I had him as a top player in that 2016 class. So far the best player was the high 3* safety who is a junior this year his name escapes me.

And bert signed far more low 3* borderline 2*s than anyone ever should here at Arkansas. So whenever all of your top talent guys never pan out you are stuck with a team of sunbelt level players.



PLEASE TELL ME HOW THOSE ARE TOP 25 CLASSES!!!!

I don't expect/want much from Morris. Win the games he is supposed to i.e. the non-cons.

No more 4th an 1 chickencrap punts when you have a bulldozer QB.

If you do punt don't have any more punt coverage debacles.

No more procedural penalties for too many players or the same number on the field.

No more players running into each other in the backfield.

Simple.

Also don't go 0-fer in the SEC. Bert won 2 games in year 2. You can at least win 1 game..... please. You can start off the season right in Oxford. We had a nice 4 game winning streak against Ole Miss until little rock last season.

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Members of 2018 class who are gone -

Noland (saw the light)
Billy Ferrell (injury)
Courtre Alexander (?)
Jimmie Stoudemire (?)

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Wasn't he a walk-on?

We only had room to sign 16 players (smallest class in the SEC) in that class so we were never going to get much from it anyway, not to mention Chad only being here like a month for it.

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Don't look at Chad's OL recruiting then. Our highest ranked O-lineman in the last class is a three star with zero Power 5 offers.

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I stress less about OLineman rankings less than any position.

The average star ranking of the NFL Pro Bowl offensive linemen last year was 2.4 stars. Not a single 5-star made it. There were as many 0 stars on the roster as 4 stars.

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for some reason some fans want to throw all context out the window for that recruiting cycle.

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Because it's more about they being "right" in their own eyes, than about being fair or realistic. Plenty of people made up their minds before Morris ever stepped up to the microphone, and damned if they are changing it.

With Morris and Muscleman both, I see some real positives that MAY end up being great signs But neither of them have done anything but polish a couple trinkets at this point, and so it's a wait and see at this point. The great Saban was far from great at MSU. No amount of pissing and whining will change that.

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Because it's more about they being "right" in their own eyes, than about being fair or realistic. Plenty of people made up their minds before Morris ever stepped up to the microphone, and damned if they are changing it.

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not me......i liked the Morris hire initially. i didn't want gus and for some reason i don't like leach - so, morris was a good option.

i just find it funny that people are trotting out the same excuses that was given during the bielema era.

"empty cupboard"
"different systems"
"context is key - this place was a dumpster fire before"

they also keep saying he is bringing in our best recruiting classes of all time.... and he isn't no matter the context.

Also find it funny that every coach hired here stressed the importance of signing top instate talent but very few seem to do so. Morris has lost some instate kids to Ole Miss and Oklahoma. He let a pretty good QB commit to North Carolina.... but instead of getting criticized for it people are saying "good, we don't we them - they are cancers or they aren't good enough."

I hope he wins and his decisions are justified but it seems like many people are just happy that Morris isn't Bielema. I said before the hire that "slightly better than Bielema" isn't good enough but now it seems that just being different (not better) is. I've actually heard people say that they don't care if Morris goes 0-fer in the SEC this season. 2 years of 0fer is fine to them b/c hey at least it ain't Bert.

Makes you wonder why people are willing to put up with the worst record in our football history..... it's rather easy to see. The "One Razorback" state unity being pumped by Morris and Cashacheck has given people the warm fuzzies. Everyone in arkansas can say "I'm important too". When in reality none of us are unless you are a Walker, Walton, Hunt, Baum, or Tyson.

Of course the main part is making the people feel like wms is a focal point in our football program. Don't dare call it a road game. Don't dare talk about the poor quality of facilities. Those lil pebble fans want you to "Shut up and play ball.....boy!"

I don't care about feeling important. I don't care how people in little rock feel about the Razorbacks. I want the best for the program and players. I want the best coach for the program. I want to win. If Morris does so then great. But he will catch flack until he does.

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With Morris and Muscleman both

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I like the Musselman hire as well. Time will tell if that hire pays off. He has a much easier path than Morris. Basketball is a sport that it's easy to turnover a roster but he was left a pretty good group of players.

As long as he doesn't make boneheaded calls like have Gabe dribble up court for a last second half court heave to win the game...... or have players so confused that they run into each other on the court..... or have such little control of the team that players are taking selfies with the student section at Kentucky..... IF none of those things happen then most people will be forgiving of a poor season - as long as it's not the worst season in our basketball history.

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They also keep saying he is bringing in our best recruiting classes of all time.... and he isn't no matter the context.

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We did sign the most 4-stars in a class we've ever signed according to Rivals which is probably where that comes from. But it wasn't the highest ranked class total we've ever had, that was 16th under Petrino. But half of that class ended up with off the field issues it seemed like.

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He let a pretty good QB commit to North Carolina.... but instead of getting criticized for it people are saying "good, we don't want them

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They would criticism him if he took Criswell and he turned out to be Ty Storey too. I would rather him not take an in-state QB just for the sake of taking an in-state QB. No one knows if he's "pretty good" or not yet because a lot of pretty good high school QBs aren't that good in college.

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Don't look at Chad's OL recruiting then. Our highest ranked O-lineman in the last class is a three star with zero Power 5 offers.

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Nevermind the transfer from Notre Dame.