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re: Why did Milroe regress this season?

Posted on 12/18/24 at 10:44 am to
Posted by Alfie Solomons
Alabama
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 12/18/24 at 10:44 am to
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He's definitely limited as a QB, Georgia made adjustments to take away his running. Not everyone has the players to do that. But if he's hesitant to run , especially for tough yards, or hesitant to make tackles after interceptions, that definitely affects his effectiveness. His willingness to run is a huge part of his admittedly limited game. Not ideal, but that's just a fact.


What does any of this have to do with him being banged up and when he was banged up?
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
25596 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 11:10 am to
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It's like, he's fast, but he sucks at running somehow. He's an accurate passer, but only when he's able to lock in on one target the whole play, and they have to be wide open.

He’s one of the few QBs that should do the combine AND the pro-day workout

Distance yourself from the tape
This post was edited on 12/18/24 at 11:14 am
Posted by bamaguy17
Member since Jul 2022
1208 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 11:36 am to
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Not giving anyone a pass but Rees wasn’t as bad as everyone made him out to be. He was also a more experienced play caller than Sheridan at this point. I think Sheridan can be a good OC but he was inconsistent and that has to do with his inexperience, IMO.

Genuine question here, but what’s makes you say that about Sheridan? Inconsistent is directly tied to Milroe. Inexperience could be that he’s basically having to adjust his offense to something that isn’t what he knows. Like Rees had to do last season, which you correctly pointed out. I think Sheridan is an ok OC, sure Grub was better but his wife didn’t want to move. We may end up with him soon anyway.
Posted by JIB
Member since Sep 2013
1961 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 11:47 am to
Grubb is coaching an offense for a 8-6 team. I don't see why he wouldn't be back.
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
15215 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 11:58 am to
- Played hero ball at times
- Incapable of running a simple RPO, what would have freed up almost everything else in the playbook
- Inexperienced OC that got too cute sometimes
- Played some good defenses
- A lot on tape, scheming against him isn't terribly difficult at this point
- Extremely erratic on short to intermediate passes, again lending to easy scheming for opponent DC's

He just isn't a good college QB. If he could run the RPO slant even at a 70% right/wrong read clip, we would have gone undefeated. I'd bet he made the wrong read on RPO calls about 60% of the time. It was baffling.
Posted by biggsc
Member since Mar 2009
34605 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 12:03 pm to
Compare and contrast Rees and Sheridan?
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12872 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 12:47 pm to
Coaching is about putting players in the best position to succeed on the field. You adjust your play calling to put players in play that have a high percentage of success.

The coaching staff did not do that this year and that is the reason the team regressed. If Alabama had last year's staff, this team goes 11-1.

Too many sunshine pumpers on this board that refuse to acknowledge how bad the coaching was this year.
This post was edited on 12/18/24 at 1:38 pm
Posted by bamaguy17
Member since Jul 2022
1208 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 12:54 pm to
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Grubb is coaching an offense for a 8-6 team. I don't see why he wouldn't be bac

I meant in a couple of years, sorry I was not clear
Posted by UhOhOreo
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2014
2884 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 1:47 pm to
Rees gave him very simplified concepts for most of the season and leaned on the run game. Shades of 2014 Ohio State with Cardale, used the deep ball to keep the box empty and then were able to get some extra yardage with less in the box. Its why we saw so many flood concepts where receivers stacked one side of the field, less time needed for reads

Well, come later in the season and teams start realizing they can just pull the Michigan blueprint. Full offseason of review, a good slew of that gets taken away like what we saw with year 1 Jalen and year 2 Jalen

Deboer gave him more freedom with routes but at the end of the day teams would rather dare him to throw, and rightfully so, by taking away the edges and run game. Turns out Milroe can't operate as a passer well enough, especially with the blitz getting a sack more often than not because he's one of the slowest time to throw guys in the NCAA
This post was edited on 12/18/24 at 1:48 pm
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
3732 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 2:20 pm to
No, coaching is about getting the right players in to do what you want to do. That means there is the possibility of a transition year. That means there's a chance you might not play for the big trophy every single, solitary year even when you have the oodles of talent that this team actually doesn't have.

And last year's team could easily have gone 8-4 with last year's coaching staff and was damn lucky to get to the playoffs and was the worst of the four teams in the playoffs.

Yes I'm arguing with an Auburn troll who I'd block if they'd let you block people on this often three-ring circus website, but sometimes things need to be said.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
6880 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 4:02 pm to
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Nick Sheridan’s inexperience was on display.


Just curious and I'm not trying to disparage your comment but how was it on display under the following circumstances?

- Milroe throwing a screen pass when the CB is up in press man coverage resulting in INT
- Milroe eyes the receiver, releases the ball late and it's INT for pick 6
- The numerous times Milroe in the RPO reads the defense incorrectly, resulting in the RB getting hammered or MIlroe when he should have given it to the back
- Milroe running sideways and taking a sack over and over again. He did it with Reese too.
This post was edited on 12/18/24 at 4:03 pm
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
6880 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 4:10 pm to
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Just curious and I'm not trying to disparage your comment but how was it on display under the following circumstances?


I see the thumbs down would you care to comment why you disagree?

I think DeBoer and Sheridan were trying to help Milroe advance his career. They didn't "baby" him like someone else said. They let him be the QB running the offense. It just didn't work. No OC, no matter how innovative or great, will be able to do that with Milroe.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
12448 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 4:15 pm to
Milroe is eyeing where the play is going when he comes out of the huddle just like high school.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
4266 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 6:00 pm to
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I think Grubb just got a great chance to stay home. I don't think it was because of Milroe, even though I know it's popular to blame him for everything.


This and the fact that that his wife didn’t want to come to Alabama. She was happy on the West Coast, so it’s sort of ridiculous for Grubbs to have come to Alabama when Seattle was offering the same position, same money, same town, fewer headaches and a happy wife.
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
25228 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 6:11 pm to
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I see the thumbs down would you care to comment why you disagree?


I didn't downvote you. I think Milroe has some severe issues. This isn't all on Sheridan.

I think that our playcalling left a lot on the table in 2024 and it was VERY uneven.

1H of UGA was LIGHTS OUT. Best play calling I've seen in a long long time.

On the other hand, Milroe threw the ball 40 times in UT (granted plays were open.... BUT if you ain't lightning it up. Perhaps change your methodology).
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
7670 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 6:11 pm to
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happy wife


Shoulda just stopped here.
Posted by Rip N Lip
Zambodia
Member since Jul 2019
6107 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 8:50 pm to
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Milroe is eyeing where the play is going when he comes out of the huddle just like high school.


Same guy as he was in 2022, when BOB said he wasn’t a QB.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
18555 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:18 pm to
I’ll be happy to see whoever Coach thinks is the guy and what he looks like. Should tell us a lot.
Posted by bamabonners
Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
3596 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:46 pm to
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This was the first year a QB has regressed under DeBoer in his career.


First year without Brian Grubbs. Don't discount that....

It's funny to read people trying to make this all on milroe when Rees seemed to do well with him last year. I think Sheridan was in over his head... Throwing 45 times against TN was ridiculous. We had no balance between running and pass... At times we looked like Sheridan was pulling plays from a hat.

Milroe has his issues, but the OC wasn't helping him out.
This post was edited on 12/18/24 at 9:51 pm
Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
5910 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 10:22 pm to
Milroe regressed because he's an athlete playing quarterback.

He doesn't have quarterback qualities.

-He can't read defenses
-He's not accurate
-He has no pocket awareness
-His footwork is spotty
-He doesn't have an high football IQ!

That's his ISSUES.

Malik Cunningham 2.0
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