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Posted on 2/8/22 at 4:34 pm to
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 4:34 pm to
Makes sense.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

What is the definition on "Far 2"?


Simply looking at the qualtities of shots by individual players: all the floaters JQ and Shack shoot from even a few feet out and baby hooks/bank shots in the lane Gary and Gurley shoot are all counted as "Far 2"

Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26699 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 4:58 pm to
What about 7-1 rest of way (lose at UK) and win 1 or 2 in the SECT? That feels like the ceiling. What seed does that produce?
Posted by Warmth in Winter
Member since Jan 2022
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 5:50 pm to
Probably 5 seed there, maybe 4 if teams fall.
This post was edited on 2/8/22 at 5:51 pm
Posted by Alabama_Fan
The Road Less Traveled
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 5:51 pm to
Alabama Turns Focus Toward Wednesday Night’s Contest at Ole Miss

The Alabama men's basketball team is set to travel to Oxford, Miss., where the Crimson Tide will take on the Ole Miss Rebels Wednesday night at 7:30 p.m. on SEC Network. It will be the lone meeting during the regular season between the two teams.

Alabama (14-9, 4-6 SEC) is coming off one of the toughest stretches played in college basketball in nearly 15 years having faced three consecutive teams that were ranked in the Associated Press Top-5. The Crimson Tide opened the stretch with a win over then-No. 4 Baylor (87-78) followed by losses at No. 1 Auburn on Feb. 1 (100-81) and most recently against then-No. 5 Kentucky at home last Saturday night (66-55). It was the first time since the 2008-09 season that any Division I team faced three-straight AP Top-5 teams (Rutgers).

Ole Miss (12-11, 3-7) has won three of its last five games entering Wednesday's home contest at The Pavilion where the Rebels have 10-4 record this season.
Posted by TiderNAL
Member since Nov 2010
8048 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 5:58 pm to
quote:

Last one I promise but it is hilarious and sounds perfect for us

@ Ole Miss - L
Arkansas - L
Miss St - L
@ Kentucky - W
@ Vandy - L
S Carolina - W
Texas A&M - L
@ LSU L
SECT : TAMU - W
SECT : Auburn - L

17-16 (6-12)

- NET : 36
- 8 Q1 Wins
- 11 Q1/Q2 Wins

#12 Seed Play In Game - Last Team in Tournament


Posted by Alabama_Fan
The Road Less Traveled
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 7:14 pm to
If anyone wants to watch - Ole Miss preview press conferences


Coach Oats



Juwan Gary and Charles Bediako

Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
9324 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 7:53 pm to
Good game between Auburn and Arkansas
Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 7:59 pm to
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Kentucky (per Torvik)

- Far 2 - 217/545 (39.8%)

- 3PT - 148/419 (35.3%)


- 3PT - 1.06
- Far 2 - 0.80


How are they coming up with the 1.06 vs .80? Are they taking into account the offensive rebounds and scores on each of those possessions where the first shot is missed? I ask because based on the shooting stats, they've only scored 10 more points on 3pt shots vs Far 2.

For our stats, I wonder how many shots between 6-15 feet we've actually taken. I'm sure it's very few. The issue with that is that it's a large segment of the half court the opponent's defense doesn't have to defend. It allows them to press the 3pt line in certain areas and protect the rim in others.

That being said, if we have all 5 on the court that can shoot the three, it doesn't matter. But that's not happening this season. Maybe next year.
Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
3154 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 8:00 pm to
Barn and hogs going to OT
Posted by TiderNAL
Member since Nov 2010
8048 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 8:12 pm to
Not looking forward to playing Arkansas
Posted by TiderNAL
Member since Nov 2010
8048 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 8:13 pm to
But I am looking forward to hopefully having a home court environment one day that’s just half as good as Bud Walton Arena.
Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
9324 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 8:15 pm to
I think it’s actually best Arkansas won. They should be flat Saturday.
Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
3154 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 8:16 pm to
Yea. They do have a great home environment. And it's not just students. They have tons of adults getting into it also.
Posted by crimsontater
Trenton GA
Member since Dec 2009
4024 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 8:34 pm to
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And play who exactly?


the guys at the end of the bench that has had little to no shot at playing this year. play the ones that aren't hurt. whether its 3 or 4 guys, set some folks down for a bit. theres no way they can shoot worse than the starters. so what do you have to lose?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 8:35 pm to
quote:

How are they coming up with the 1.06 vs .80? Are they taking into account the offensive rebounds and scores on each of those possessions where the first shot is missed? I ask because based on the shooting stats, they've only scored 10 more points on 3pt shots vs Far 2.


3 * 35.3%

2 * 39.8%

The rest is just volume. That's kind of the point that Oats makes. You have to shoot a significantly better % from mid range than you do from 3 for it be a consistently better shot. If you are only shooting 4-5% more from the 4 feet closer and 1 less pt shot, you are leaving bread on the table.

Some guys do and that makes sense. Most don't, because 16 footers and 25 footers are very similar shots without much difference in necessary lift or setup. Oats has made it clear that if a guy makes a very high % of mid range shots he's totally fine with it.
This post was edited on 2/8/22 at 8:39 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 8:42 pm to
quote:

the guys at the end of the bench that has had little to no shot at playing this year. play the ones that aren't hurt. whether its 3 or 4 guys, set some folks down for a bit. theres no way they can shoot worse than the starters. so what do you have to lose?


Why? The guys have played hard as hell since the Georgia game. They just didn't make shots. You don't bench your entire 7 man rotation because they are ice cold.

Now, back around the Missouri game and Georgia? I might have agreed for a 5 minute stretch, just to prove a point. But dudes are playing hard recently, they just can't make shots.
Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
3154 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 8:47 pm to
Makes sense. Thank you.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 8:48 pm to
We just gotta have a few guys start making shots.

Same ole story, I know, but at some point the ice has to thaw....at least for 1-2 guys. It doesn't have to turn into insane hot, just a little bit better. We aren't a great group of shooters but we aren't 330th in the country bad. JQ isn't a 42% 3PT guy like last year......but he ain't 22% either.

Hopefully tomorrow some guys start clicking. Prayers up.



PS - Also hopefully when/if we do thaw out we don't then forget how to play defense or dribble or offensive rebound or something.
This post was edited on 2/8/22 at 8:51 pm
Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
9324 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 8:57 pm to
I thought the effort the last three games was as good as it’s been all season. Just didn’t make shots. And Auburn and Kentucky are legit final four teams, not like we lost to just anybody.
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