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Posted on 2/7/22 at 11:22 am to
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 11:22 am to
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Do our players practice free throws before the game. Maybe I missed it, but I dont remember seeing them do that. They do spend time trying crazy dunks.


It's a shootaround, not a practice. They're mostly just getting loose.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46343 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 11:40 am to
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I’m done trying to diagnose this team. Every loss seems like it’s a different issue. When we put it all together, we are one of the best teams in the nation, which makes those losses that much more frustrating and head scratching.


It's just a flawed roster with players who don't complement each other well in terms of skills or personalities. When we get 4 or 5 guys all having good nights at the same time we can beat anyone in the country, but that doesn't happen very often for anyone. The teams who can survive those kind of off nights tend to have either a star who can put the team on his back or a glue guy who keeps the train on the tracks even when things aren't going well. We have neither of those things, and the guys who we had hoped would be those things have been anything but. So yeah, if Chuck has a good night and no one else does our rebounding is fine but everything else is shite. If Shack or Quinerly has a good night and no one else does we hit some 3s and get into the lane, but get worked on the glass and turn the ball over. That's why it always seems to be a different thing every time we lose.
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 11:43 am
Posted by DLev45
Member since Aug 2018
732 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 12:03 pm to
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It makes no sense that a coach that values 3 point shooting as much as he does doesn't focus his recruiting on guys that can hit 3's in high school or in the portal. I don't know, maybe he has and the guys that committed to us were actually good 3 point shooters but as usual with Alabama basketball they come here and can't shoot.



Gurley was 34.4% in 3 years at Furman and is 27.1% this year.

Quinerly was 43.3% last year and is 24.4% this year.

Davison was 33% in 4 years of high school ball and is 29.3% this year.

Holt was 38% in 3 years of high school and is 1/12 (8.3%) this year.

Rojas was 38.4% in 2 years of JUCO and 20.9% in 2 years at Bama.

Miles, Ellis, and Shackelford were about the same last year and this year ~ 33-35%

But note that ALL these guys above hit at that 33-35% clip at their stops before Bama.
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 12:32 pm
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9413 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 12:11 pm to
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Saturday was our 2nd worst eFG% since 2008. The only one worse was 2011 at Auburn (lost 51-49).

1. 2011 Auburn (28.6%) (L 51-49)
2. 2022 Kentucky (30.5%) (L 66-55)
3. 2013 Auburn (30.6%) (L 49-37)
4. 2018 Florida (32.5%) (L 73-52)
5. 2009 Kentucky (32.8%) (L 61-51)



Those 2 Auburn games are burned so deeply into memory that I could have named them right away.

Posted by Alabama_Fan
The Road Less Traveled
Member since Sep 2020
16372 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 12:12 pm to
Alabama Basketball Remains Unranked in AP Top 25, Receives 18 Voting Points

Only three teams in the Southeastern Conference were ranked in this week's AP Top 25, with Auburn ranking No. 1, Kentucky at No. 5 and Tennessee at No. 19.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 12:12 pm to
Yea I figured for sure the 37 point one was #1
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 12:13 pm
Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
6151 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 12:16 pm to
You do know that sometimes in life things don't go as planned?

Holt doesn't have enough attempts to even get in a rhythm.
JD is a work in progress but he has good potential to be a decent shooter.
Gurley has no rhythm either because he gets in foul trouble too much.
JQ looks like Villanova JQ
Posted by DLev45
Member since Aug 2018
732 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 12:20 pm to
I was just responding to this to show that all of these guys have shown the ability to hit 3's.

quote:

It makes no sense that a coach that values 3 point shooting as much as he does doesn't focus his recruiting on guys that can hit 3's in high school or in the portal. I don't know, maybe he has and the guys that committed to us were actually good 3 point shooters but as usual with Alabama basketball they come here and can't shoot.
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
2251 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 12:20 pm to
Holt is a good shooter before the games in warm up.
Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
6151 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 12:24 pm to
My bad DLev45. I apologize for coming at you like that.
Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
6151 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 12:26 pm to
He is very similar to Jaylen Forbes.
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
2251 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 12:29 pm to
I any of you notice, when they showed clips on one of Wimps teams, how little contact there was in those games? Its more like mug ball now compared to how they games were played back in the 80s or early 90s.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16679 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

3. 2013 Auburn (30.6%) (L 49-37)


Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9413 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

I was just responding to this to show that all of these guys have shown the ability to hit 3's.



Yeah, freshmen can go either way in adjusting to the college game but Quinerly and Gurley and I guess Rojas too are all guys that were recruited because they could shoot!


The only roster argument that could be made is that we also have 3 key players right now that were recruited even though they're not really shooters in JD, Gary and Bediako.

Maybe that's pushing it for an offense that thrives on the spacing caused by having 4+ shooters on the floor but would not be such an issue IF the guys brought in as shooters were not going 1 for 13 so many nights.


The conundrum for much of the season is that the guys who are supposed to be shooters aren't shooting any better than Gary or JD.

I mean what can you really do on a large scale aside from trying to analyze why they're not shooting any better and mainly hoping they snap out of it that's not just forcing a square peg into a round hole?





Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
6151 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 12:52 pm to
He shot the ball one time and then he got pulled so he will never get a rhythm going like that because his hook is too quick. He has good on ball defense and he's a very capable of being a good rebounder. He needs more time on the floor honestly.
Posted by DLev45
Member since Aug 2018
732 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

Yeah, freshmen can go either way in adjusting to the college game but Quinerly and Gurley and I guess Rojas too are all guys that were recruited because they could shoot!


The only roster argument that could be made is that we also have 3 key players right now that were recruited even though they're not really shooters in JD, Gary and Bediako.

Maybe that's pushing it for an offense that thrives on the spacing caused by having 4+ shooters on the floor but would not be such an issue IF the guys brought in as shooters were not going 1 for 13 so many nights.


The conundrum for much of the season is that the guys who are supposed to be shooters aren't shooting any better than Gary or JD.

I mean what can you really do on a large scale aside from trying to analyze why they're not shooting any better and mainly hoping they snap out of it that's not just forcing a square peg into a round hole?



Oats actually didn't recruit Gary. Gary was an Avery Johnson signing.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46343 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 1:06 pm to
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I mean what can you really do on a large scale aside from trying to analyze why they're not shooting any better and mainly hoping they snap out of it that's not just forcing a square peg into a round hole?


Nothing unfortunately. Our 3 best shooters are a guy who doesn't want to be anything more than a 3rd scoring option, a guy who is in the doghouse every couple of weeks, and a guy who can go 6/8 or 1/12 on any given night. Like I said before though, if Quinerly and Gurley weren't putrid from outside this season none of the above would be an issue. As it stands though, as far as 3pt shooting goes our rotation includes 3 guys who are effective but unreliable, 5 who are are reliably bad, and 1 who doesn't shoot at all.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

When we get 4 or 5 guys all having good nights at the same time we can beat anyone in the country,


I’d need to go back and look, but it seems we are at our best when Ellis and/or Gary play well.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
30375 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 1:31 pm to
Holy shite…it was worse than the 49-37 game
Posted by McGregor
Member since Feb 2011
7056 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 1:36 pm to
I left that night when we reached 33 points. That's all I could take.
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