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Posted on 1/23/22 at 10:50 am to
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/23/22 at 10:50 am to
KAH and Holt are good defenders who just don't do much of anything on the other end. I don't think there's much more to it than that. It takes time for a lot of guys who aren't 1st round types to learn how to play basketball within the structure of a college system. The part that's a bit odd to me is that there appears to be no rhyme or reason behind when they play. Their minutes are totally sporadic and don't appear to be based on matchups or foul trouble.
This post was edited on 1/23/22 at 10:53 am
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
17250 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 10:54 am to
They clearly like to switch everything late in games. It always seemed like the biggest reason why Bediako never closed games, even when he was playing well.

If we’re going to go with that, I’d just prefer that we shorten the rotation a bit and pick some combination of JQ, JD, Shack, Ellis, Miles, Gary, Rojas. Gurley and Holt if we’re in foul trouble or someone is injured.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 1/23/22 at 10:59 am to
quote:

I've heard it is more his understanding what to do, especially on defense. For example, last night, we went to an all guard line up (Miles, like Herb last year, at "center")and switched constantly on D to stay in front of their guards who were somehow draining threes



That could be it, but my first thought would be well Bediako doesn't really do those things either. But, Bediako can do a little bit more with blocking shots and lobs.

I think KAH has a few moves on offense that can be useful. He's pretty decent at taking the ball to the rim and getting put backs.
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 1/23/22 at 11:58 am to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 12:18 pm to
The change to pressuring the ball at 3/4 court completely changed the game. It got Missouri out of being comfortable, which totally wrecked their offense. And, more importantly, it flipped a switch of engagement on the defensive end with everyone on our team. It was like we'd been playing on our heels defensively for 6 weeks and then all of a sudden we attacked the ballhandlers for 2 possessions and completely changed. I don't know if it was the threat of being embarrassed in the open floor or that some guys just need to be forced into a situation in like that to really turn their juice on, but it was a NOTABLE difference in the effort and intensity on the defensive end once we went to max pressure.

I dunno if that is transferable against teams with ballhandlers that will beat high pressure, but I'd much prefer seeing us get beat that way than sagging back and letting team get into the lane every possession. I have to imagine that we come out playing that way in Athens.
This post was edited on 1/23/22 at 12:21 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 12:33 pm to
Positives from last night

- Offensive rebounding continues to be a strength

- We might have found something defensively that at least gives us a chance to compete

- Our 5 main shooters had nice shooting nights from 3 (9/20) (JQ, JD, Keon, JD, Miles). Hopefully that continues.

- When we started playing pressure defense Keon came alive on both ends of the floor. Like with the defense in general, maybe that pace and style on defense is what is needed to push him into playing aggressive all over the floor. We need it badly and when he does it in the flow of the game it's a huge plus.
This post was edited on 1/23/22 at 12:42 pm
Posted by Bamafan18
Member since Oct 2018
3693 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 1:01 pm to
Y’all think there’s any chance we’re ranked this week? Last week we were 11-6 and 29th in the AP Poll. This week we’re 13-6…I’m thinking we’ll probably still be right outside, but it would be cool to be ranked going into the Baylor game
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
15055 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 1:03 pm to
They may for TV
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 1:06 pm to
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Y’all think there’s any chance we’re ranked this week?


I haven't looked at which teams from 15-25 lost this week, but I'd imagine there's a decent chance we are at #23-25. Barely out, name recognition, 2 for 2 in wins with one of them over a Top 15 team.

Obviously it doesn't really matter but yea I'd probably lean towards yes.
This post was edited on 1/23/22 at 1:07 pm
Posted by Bamafan18
Member since Oct 2018
3693 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 1:15 pm to
#20 Xavier is playing at Marquette rn. Would be nice if they lost
Posted by Bamafan18
Member since Oct 2018
3693 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

Obviously it doesn't really matter but yea I'd probably lean towards yes.
Only reason I really even care about rankings is bc I know a top 25 matchup will attract some of the more casual fans, like the Tide Pride people, who may not use their tickets if we aren’t ranked. We need every single seat filled on Saturday. A win over them would be HUGE.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 1:22 pm to
Over the last 12 minutes of the game yesterday (about when we started picking them up at half-court aggressively) we posted a PPP Defensive of 0.44.

They scored 11 points on 25 possessions in 12 minutes. Pace of 37 points per game.


First 28 minutes
40 possessions
65 points
1.63 PPP
93 point per game pace

Last 12 minutes
25 possessions
11 points
0.44 PPP
37 point per game pace


The first game, FYI

First game vs Mizzou
81 possessions
92 points
1.31 PPP
93 points
This post was edited on 1/23/22 at 1:29 pm
Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
6151 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 1:29 pm to
I did like the aggressiveness on the defensive end in second half. We need to do that more often.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 1:32 pm to
Also, last night was our #2 most efficient offensive game of the season

Alabama Offense Ranked by PPP
#1 Miami (W by 28) - 1.36
#2 Missouri (W by 10) - 1.32
#3 Louisiana Tech (W by 29) - 1.292
#4 South Dakota St (W by 16) - 1.290
#5 @ Missouri (L by 6) - 1.23
#6 Oakland (W by 27) - 1.20
#7 Houston (W by 1) - 1.18
#8 Davidson (L by 1) - 1.17


Also the 2nd worst defensive efficiency game by Missouri this season behind their 102-65 loss to Kansas.
This post was edited on 1/23/22 at 1:34 pm
Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
6151 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 1:38 pm to
Don't blow a head gasket Robot geez...
Posted by reachup
Member since Nov 2017
156 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 2:12 pm to
Bediako stat line: 3 points, 1 rebound.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

Bediako stat line: 3 points, 1 rebound.



They clearly don't think that he matches up well against Missouri. The only 2 times he's played less than 10 minutes this season are both games against Mizzou - 8 minutes per game in each of them.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 2:17 pm to
Shack has had 2 straight really good games

vs LSU
+18.9 Box Plus Minus
123.1 Offensive Rating
26 points
4/8 2PT
3/10 3PT
9/11 FT
4 rebounds
4 steals
2 assists


vs Missouri
+6.1 Box Plus Minus
155.6 Offensive Rating
21 points
4/10 2PT
2/6 3PT
7/7 FT
7 rebounds
1 steals
1 assists
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 2:26 pm to
3PT Shooting - Last 2 Games

> Ellis - 40% (4/10)
> Miles - 40% (2/5)
> Davison - 38% (3/8)
> Shack - 31% (5/16)
> Quinerly - 20% (2/10)
> Rojas - 0% (0/5)
> Gurley - 0% (0/2)

Our 5 main 3 pt shooters are 16/49 (33%) the last 2 games. So not great, but definitely better. All of them but JQ are at least back into "average" range over that stretch.
Posted by Skybox_rtr
Atlanta, GA
Member since May 2021
311 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

I haven't looked at which teams from 15-25 lost this week, but I'd imagine there's a decent chance we are at #23-25. Barely out, name recognition, 2 for 2 in wins with one of them over a Top 15 team.
Both Texas and Loyola Chicago lost last week, so we may have an avenue to jump up. We’ll see.
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