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Posted on 1/23/22 at 10:14 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 1/23/22 at 10:14 pm to SummerOfGeorge
You can make a pretty decent argument that the non-conference scheduling this year was the good and the bad of Nate Oats all wrapped up in one.
The good: the sort of confidence and brashness that this program desperately needed. We will take on anybody. frick mixing in easy games to build confidence and develop young players.
The bad: a bit of naiveté, overconfidence, and stubbornness. frick mixing in easy games to build confidence and develop young players.
The good: the sort of confidence and brashness that this program desperately needed. We will take on anybody. frick mixing in easy games to build confidence and develop young players.
The bad: a bit of naiveté, overconfidence, and stubbornness. frick mixing in easy games to build confidence and develop young players.
This post was edited on 1/23/22 at 10:19 pm
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Posted on 1/23/22 at 10:17 pm to Crede15
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You can make a pretty decent argument that the off-season scheduling this year was the good and the bad of Nate Oats all wrapped up in one.
The good: the sort of confidence and brashness that this program desperately needed. We will take on anybody. frick mixing in easy games to build confidence and develop young players.
The bad: a bit of naiveté, overconfidence, and stubbornness. frick mixing in easy games to build confidence and develop young players.
Agree 100%. I would prefer a coach whose first instinct is what he did, but in the end it probably makes a little more sense to put the throttle back just a smidge. An even more specific microcosm is scheduling Davidson as the replacement for Colorado State - a team that is notoriously difficult to prepare for, on short rest, after playing an absolute GRIND of a month of games. Scheduling Samford or Appalachian State or Charlotte would have been just fine for that event.
But, with that said, it's so damned refreshing to have a basketball coach at Alabama who is 100% confident in his system, his approach, his team, etc. It's everything I begged, screamed and whined to see for almost 20 years.
This post was edited on 1/23/22 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 1/23/22 at 10:23 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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This team just makes no sense at all. They're going to have the most impressive 7 seed resumé in history.
I think there is a balance between scheduling how we did and scheduling how LSU did. While I would prefer our scheduling to LSU's, I don't think the constant tough game is what we should be striving for either. Sometimes it's nice to have a good blowout game or two that can help give your team a boost of confidence and get the end-of-bench guys some run to see what you have there.
When just about every game you play is a tough game , you're going to get overly used to the close games and lose a couple you shouldn't due to some hot shooting. It's almost like we're waiting for the end of the game to turn it on, because that's all we're used to. Even in the games we have lost, we typically have a very strong push at the end of the game.
Posted on 1/23/22 at 10:25 pm to Crede15
Yeah I'm hoping next year's schedule replaces 2-3 of those 75-125 type mid-majors with some Q4 games. I wonder if that might actually be part of the problem. It's mentally taxing to play game after game against quality opponents with few if any breaks. Few college kids are going to be able to maintain focus through that.
Posted on 1/23/22 at 10:29 pm to BigBird09
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Even in the games we have lost, we typically have a very strong push at the end of the game.
Outside of the Memphis and Missouri games, every other loss we've had is a game where we had the ball and a chance to tie or win in the last 30ish seconds.
* Iona (L by 4) - Down 2, 12 seconds left, JQ misses layup
* Davidson (L by 1) - Down 1, 5 seconds left, JQ misses free throw
* Auburn (L by 4) - Down 2, 35 seconds left, JQ misses layup
* Miss St (L by 2) - Down 2, 1 second left, Ellis misses 3
Also, kind of hilarious that the 2 games where the game was all but over with 1 minute left were.........Memphis and fvckin Missouri.
This gawd daym team
This post was edited on 1/23/22 at 10:30 pm
Posted on 1/23/22 at 10:33 pm to Robot Santa
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Yeah I'm hoping next year's schedule replaces 2-3 of those 75-125 type mid-majors with some Q4 games. I wonder if that might actually be part of the problem. It's mentally taxing to play game after game against quality opponents with few if any breaks. Few college kids are going to be able to maintain focus through that.
The thought occurred to me as well that some of the recent slump may just be due to exhaustion.
Guess the other side of the coin is that fighting through it may make for a stronger tourney team.
Posted on 1/23/22 at 10:34 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I would have a much more positive outlook on the season if not for those two losses. But because of those it just feels like we can beat anyone and lose to anyone, which makes it impossible for me to really feel good about where we are. We could go 4-1 over our next 5 or we could go 1-4.
Posted on 1/23/22 at 10:34 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Miss St (L by 2) - Down 2, 1 second left, Ellis misses 3
As much as we didn't deserve it, it still kills me when officials pocket their whistles at the end of the game. I'm okay with letting them play a little, but the dude was ran into in the middle of a jump shot.
Posted on 1/23/22 at 10:37 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Also, kind of funny that for all our bitching and moaning about this team driving us crazy...........here are the rankings of Alabama Basketball teams by Torvik ranking since 2008
1. 2021 Alabama (Oats) (#9) (2 seed, S16)
2. 2022 Alabama (Oats) (#23) (TBD)
3. 2012 Alabama (Grant) (#27) (9 seed, 1R)
4. 2011 Alabama (Grant) (#42) (NIT)
5. 2013 Alabama (Grant) (#42) (NIT)
6. 2017 Alabama (Johnson) (#54) (NIT)
7. 2018 Alabama (Johnson) (#58) (9 seed, 2R)
8. 2010 Alabama (Grant) (#59) (N/A)
9. 2020 Alabama (Oats) (#60) (COVID)
10. 2019 Alabama (Johnson) (#61) (NIT)
11. 2015 Alabama (Grant) (#63) (NIT)
12. 2014 Alabama (Grant) (#69) (N/A)
13. 2008 Alabama (Gottfried) (#76) (N/A)
14. 2016 Alabama (Johnson) (#81) (NIT)
15. 2009 Alabama (Gottfried) (#91) (N/A)
1. 2021 Alabama (Oats) (#9) (2 seed, S16)
2. 2022 Alabama (Oats) (#23) (TBD)
3. 2012 Alabama (Grant) (#27) (9 seed, 1R)
4. 2011 Alabama (Grant) (#42) (NIT)
5. 2013 Alabama (Grant) (#42) (NIT)
6. 2017 Alabama (Johnson) (#54) (NIT)
7. 2018 Alabama (Johnson) (#58) (9 seed, 2R)
8. 2010 Alabama (Grant) (#59) (N/A)
9. 2020 Alabama (Oats) (#60) (COVID)
10. 2019 Alabama (Johnson) (#61) (NIT)
11. 2015 Alabama (Grant) (#63) (NIT)
12. 2014 Alabama (Grant) (#69) (N/A)
13. 2008 Alabama (Gottfried) (#76) (N/A)
14. 2016 Alabama (Johnson) (#81) (NIT)
15. 2009 Alabama (Gottfried) (#91) (N/A)
This post was edited on 1/23/22 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 1/23/22 at 10:38 pm to Robot Santa
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But because of those it just feels like we can beat anyone and lose to anyone, which makes it impossible for me to really feel good about where we are. We could go 4-1 over our next 5 or we could go 1-4.
Yup - I mean there is no logical reason to be nervous about playing an all-time bad Georgia team this week. But me, you and anyone and everyone who follows Alabama basketball looks at that game with a giant red circle around it and thinks oh dear gawd please don't do it.
It's like when the Braves used to play some 45-81 Marlins team throwing a AAAA 89 MPH throwing lefty on a Wed night in August. We all fvckin knew that we'd get shutout for 6 innings when it made ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. Then, we'd pound some Cy Young candidate 2 days later. Fvckin zero rational reason for it.
This post was edited on 1/23/22 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 1/23/22 at 10:49 pm to BigBird09
This is obviously extremely fwiw, but ESPN’s BPI has us going 7-5 the rest of the year (losses to Baylor, Auburn, Kentucky X2, and LSU). We are very solid (at least 65-70%) favorites in every other game.
Again sort of just mildly interesting, but they don’t seem super high on Baylor for whatever reason. We are given a 46.6% chance of winning that one.
Again sort of just mildly interesting, but they don’t seem super high on Baylor for whatever reason. We are given a 46.6% chance of winning that one.
Posted on 1/23/22 at 10:54 pm to Crede15
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This is obviously extremely fwiw, but ESPN’s BPI has us going 7-5 the rest of the year (losses to Baylor, Auburn, Kentucky X2, and LSU). We are very solid (at least 65-70%) favorites in every other game.
Again sort of just mildly interesting, but they don’t seem super high on Baylor for whatever reason. We are given a 46.6% chance of winning that one.
That's what Torvik has too - finishing 20-11 (10-8), which feels about right. We'll probably beat Kentucky and lose to Ole Miss or something instead of straight down the line, but the totals feel about right.
Torvik has the Baylor game at 35% and Baylor winning by 4, so similar.
Torvik's margin of victory/% chance to win for the remaining games
vs South Carolina (Bama by 13.3, 89%)
@ Georgia (Bama by 11.4, 83%)
vs Texas A&M (Bama by 8.0, 78%)
vs Miss St (Bama by 6.2, 72%)
vs Arkansas (Bama by 6.3, 71%)
@ Ole Miss (Bama by 4.8, 68%)
@ Vanderbilt (Bama by 3.0, 62%)
vs Kentucky (Kentucky by 1.3, 46%)
vs Baylor (Baylor by 4.1, 35%)
@ LSU (LSU by 7.1, 24%)
@ Kentucky (Kentucky by 9.7, 20%)
@ Auburn (Auburn by 10.5, 18%)
This post was edited on 1/23/22 at 10:55 pm
Posted on 1/23/22 at 10:54 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Yup - I mean there is no logical reason to be nervous about playing an all-time bad Georgia team this week. But me, you and anyone and everyone who follows Alabama basketball looks at that game with a giant red circle around it and thinks oh dear gawd please don't do it.
We have a team with at least 3 Shannon Hales. That’s what annoys me the most. The lack of leadership is disgusting
Posted on 1/23/22 at 11:54 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Also, kind of funny that for all our bitching and moaning about this team driving us crazy....
That’s what I’m saying. We are probably gonna end up a 5,6, or 7 seed. We have only been that high of a seed like 3 times in the last 25 years (02,05,21).
I think following up an SEC Championship and Sweet 16 with another solid NCAAt seed where we were never on the bubble is really really good and should have us excited about the direction of the program.
This post was edited on 1/24/22 at 12:01 am
Posted on 1/24/22 at 4:21 am to mistaken4193
Nothing wrong with your statement except our expectations were much higher for this year. Especially after our flying start. A win or two in the tournament is a very good year for us. Who would disagree. We were dreaming Final Four , hence the hand wringing.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 7:12 am to My2Bits
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our expectations were much higher for this year. Especially after our flying start.
The good start, and then struggling with lesser teams is the only thing that has disappointed me. I argued with some on here that losing Petty, Primo, and Herb was going to hurt our defense and this team would take a step back. Then they came out firing on all cylinders and reset my expectations. I'm back to where I started now - this can be a good team, but I think we're probably a year away from expecting a run in March.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 8:28 am to SummerOfGeorge
On a side note, anyone that lives in GA (or anywhere else for that matter) planning on going to the game tomorrow in Athens?
I’ve got some meetings there tomorrow and our company has an office there, so planning to work and then watch the Tide for cheap while I’m there. Would be fun to meet up with anyone going sans the “saban n bear” types on here!
I’ve got some meetings there tomorrow and our company has an office there, so planning to work and then watch the Tide for cheap while I’m there. Would be fun to meet up with anyone going sans the “saban n bear” types on here!
This post was edited on 1/24/22 at 8:30 am
Posted on 1/24/22 at 9:36 am to Skybox_rtr
Alabama F James Rojas Brings out Best in Teammates (SI)
Still fully working his way back from injury, Rojas gives the Crimson Tide an edge when he's on the floor according to teammates.
Still fully working his way back from injury, Rojas gives the Crimson Tide an edge when he's on the floor according to teammates.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:02 am to Teague
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I argued with some on here that losing Petty, Primo, and Herb was going to hurt our defense and this team would take a step back.
The argument that Petty and Primo were replaceable isn't unreasonable. They were good defenders, very switchable, but not the kind of guys who could singlehandedly wreck your gameplan on that end. Only an idiot like SnB would say that Herb wouldn't be missed. He might end up making an All-Defense team as a rookie, and will be a fixture on them going forward as he learns the tendencies of other NBA players and teams from experience rather than just watching game video. I wouldn't be surprised if he wins an NBA DPOY at some point.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:37 am to Robot Santa
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