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Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:48 am to BigFolks6347
Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:48 am to BigFolks6347
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You’re clearly delusional. Been a heavy follower of BAMA Basketball since as long as I can remember. So that FOG clearly doesn’t apply to me
Sorry, just assumed those that didn't know about their just being NCAA officials would have been a casual basketball fan at best.
I guess it isn't something that has to be known.
And truth be told, I think a lot of these refs stay in a region of tge country, thus they appear to be conference officials.
Further, at one time there were conference officials
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:49 am to SummerOfGeorge
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We don't do it on defense. I dunno if it's fair to blame that on Charlie Henry or not, but if we're getting beat defensively by something early on there's a good chance we'll keep getting beat on it and never make any sort of adjustment.
Hey I am as critical of the defensive approach yesterday as anyone, but from a defensive efficiency standpoint we were top 10 going into yesterday.
Overall we will be ok as long as we learn from the mistakes and don’t let it become a trend.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:51 am to tide06
This is the stat that really exacerbates the current issues. In the past four games (Vandy, Mizzou, MSU, OU), the starters outside of Brandon Miller (Sears, Bradley, Chuck, Clowney) are a combined 3/38 from outside. Our system requires at least 4 of the 5 guys on the court to be threats from deep (for spacing purposes). Recently teams have been cheating toward Miller (rightfully so) and leaving space for everyone else. Clowney and Sears in particular have had some of the best looks recently because if it. They just can’t hit anything.
When you couple that with the fact that Bediako can’t shoot, and Bradley often won’t attempt a three unless there isn’t a defender within 15 feet, it makes the offense basically unworkable with those 5 out there together. Which is why we’ve been finding ourselves down double digits before the first media timeout.
When you couple that with the fact that Bediako can’t shoot, and Bradley often won’t attempt a three unless there isn’t a defender within 15 feet, it makes the offense basically unworkable with those 5 out there together. Which is why we’ve been finding ourselves down double digits before the first media timeout.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:51 am to SummerOfGeorge
We got absolutely smoked and need to improve. Our best isn’t good enough to win it all.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 9:52 am
Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:52 am to tide06
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Hey I am as critical of the defensive approach yesterday as anyone, but from a defensive efficiency standpoint we were top 10 going into yesterday.
I think we struggle with a specific type of offensive approach and skillet, and we have yet to find an answer to it.
We may luck out and not play anybody in March who can do that to us, but if we do we have to come up with some different solutions.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:53 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Oats is great at halftime tweaks and adjustments. We don't do it on defense. I dunno if it's fair to blame that on Charlie Henry or not, but if we're getting beat defensively by something early on there's a good chance we'll keep getting beat on it and never make any sort of adjustment.
Nope. It has happened every year too, so I think it probably is safe to start questioning him at this point. If we improve defensively after halftime it's always because we were doing some lazy, passive things in the first half and dial up the effort and intensity. I can't recall many times we made any kind of tactical changes on defense. Hopefully Burnett getting back to 100% and in game shape will be enough to fix our perimeter D.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 9:54 am
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:05 am to Robot Santa
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Hopefully Burnett getting back to 100% and in game shape will be enough to fix our perimeter D.
I think most of the issues I’ve seen are matchup related.
-Burnett is still sluggish from his injury and is a pale shadow defensively of where he was before the injury
-Welch is really slow and often loses his man. He just isn’t playing winning basketball on either end right now.
-Griffen gets lost out there at times
-JQ struggled early coming back from his injury but has been better recently
-Pringle has been a disaster defensively at times
-Sears is solid but his lack of size can be a problem depending on the matchup
It’s also worth mentioning that our two bigs are 7’/225 and 6’10/210. That is pretty skinny and against physical post play it can be a liability.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:23 am to Robot Santa
I’m telling you that Henry doesn’t know how to make adjustments. If our initial plan doesn’t work, they have nothing else to try. When Gonzaga was just abusing us play after play, Henry’s only coaching point to Oats was telling him that we can’t guard them…no tactical thoughts, not even a suggestion. He just kept saying that over and over throughout the 2nd half. I imagine the same thing was happening on the bench yesterday.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:25 am to Bryant91092
I am legitimately nervous about Tuesday. Vandy is probably the last team you wanna play in conference when you are struggling defensively. Stackhouse will definitely see if we have fixed our flaws.
Also, I think I’m gonna stop the whole bit I do with Joka. It was working but after getting destroyed yesterday I feel like the good fortune/luck the bit brings is no more
Also, I think I’m gonna stop the whole bit I do with Joka. It was working but after getting destroyed yesterday I feel like the good fortune/luck the bit brings is no more
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 10:28 am
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:27 am to tide06
Every team loses games at sometime during the long season. Being a 1 seed is a big target for opponents. We are playing several freshmen who are overly susceptible to hype and emotion. Probably lose a few more over then next few weeks. Need to repeak in March!
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:29 am to East Coast Band
No problem buddy, trust me I know FOG can be obnoxious.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:30 am to Bryant91092
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If our initial plan doesn’t work, they have nothing else to try. When Gonzaga was just abusing us play after play, Henry’s only coaching point to Oats was telling him that we can’t guard them…no tactical thoughts, not even a suggestion.
Sounds about right. And the really concerning thing about it is that the book was out on how to defend Gonzaga at that point. They have no PGs. Pick them up early and force them to dribble or pass their way out of the pressure.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:40 am to tide06
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-Burnett is still sluggish from his injury and is a pale shadow defensively of where he was before the injury
-Welch is really slow and often loses his man. He just isn’t playing winning basketball on either end right now.
These are the two big ones for me. We eventually adjusted to losing Burnett, but he is pretty indispensable when it comes to limiting smaller, quicker guards because he has the length to bother them. Welch has just been fricking horrible. If he's not making shots he has to defend, and he is doing neither right now. You almost have to wonder if he's out there playing at 70% because whatever injury he had is something he'd need to have rested for another two months to get fully healthy and it was either play while limited or not play at all.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:43 am to mistaken4193
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I am legitimately nervous about Tuesday. Vandy is probably the last team you wanna play in conference when you are struggling defensively. Stackhouse will definitely see if we have fixed our flaws.
We literally played them like 10 days ago. They ran all their stuff and we defended it relatively well.
Honestly it's probably exactly what we need right now.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 10:47 am
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:47 am to SummerOfGeorge
I don't understand our complete opposition to forcing guards to make quick decisions with pressure. We only tried it one time that I can remember in the Oats era and that last year at home vs Mizzou in the 2nd half when we were absolutely throwing shite against the wall to find a way to get results.
That was the clear initial counter yesterday. Ambush the pick and roll, see how they respond. They crushed us because we ran into the pick and then they basically strung us out until a choose was made by the big and they burned us the other way.
Ambush it, take that out of the equation, make them throw to the screener immediately and give us a chance to recover. And hey, maybe they have an answer for that, but at least make them show it.
That was the clear initial counter yesterday. Ambush the pick and roll, see how they respond. They crushed us because we ran into the pick and then they basically strung us out until a choose was made by the big and they burned us the other way.
Ambush it, take that out of the equation, make them throw to the screener immediately and give us a chance to recover. And hey, maybe they have an answer for that, but at least make them show it.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 10:48 am
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:58 am to SummerOfGeorge
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I don't understand our complete opposition to forcing guards to make quick decisions with pressure
We are just risk averse on defense. It makes absolutely no sense either since rim protection has been our strong point most of the year. That gives you a lot more room to gamble with traps and picking guards up at halfcourt.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:03 am to Robot Santa
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Welch has just been fricking horrible. If he's not making shots he has to defend, and he is doing neither right now. You almost have to wonder if he's out there playing at 70% because whatever injury he had is something he'd need to have rested for another two months to get fully healthy and it was either play while limited or not play at all.
I think Oats believes he can be a major asset based on what he saw prior to the injury, but right now having him on the court is almost asking the team to play 4 v 5 because he’s been a liability on both ends.
If he can get his shot back he might be a valuable piece as a spot shooter down the stretch but I’d be afraid to see his efficiency numbers so far.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:04 am to tide06
Yea, it's similar to JQ earlier in the year. I get it, Oats thinks the only way he's gonna get comfortable is to play in games and work through it, and Oats thinks he can contribute in March and that it's worth the trade off.
But man has he been awful. And seems to look more skiddish and worse each night out.
But man has he been awful. And seems to look more skiddish and worse each night out.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 11:06 am
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:06 am to SummerOfGeorge
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That was the clear initial counter yesterday. Ambush the pick and roll, see how they respond.
Or just run under the pick and not pretend like we were having to defend Steph Curry 5 steps outside the arc haha.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:08 am to tide06
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Or just run under the pick and not pretend like we were having to defend Steph Curry 5 steps outside the arc haha.
The most frustrating thing was we weren't going under or over the pick. We were slamming into the pick on EVERY possession. Just running right into the guy like we had no idea he was there and every possession was Groundhog Day. I felt like I was taking crazy pills.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 11:09 am
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