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Posted on 10/4/18 at 11:31 am to The Spleen
Posted on 10/4/18 at 11:31 am to The Spleen
that is the type I am talking about
I have an ex friend who was in a UA frat. This guy grew up in the North, and though proud of Bama, had disdain for the working class. Dude has millions but is a banker who thinks the common man is the problem.
I have an ex friend who was in a UA frat. This guy grew up in the North, and though proud of Bama, had disdain for the working class. Dude has millions but is a banker who thinks the common man is the problem.
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Posted on 10/4/18 at 11:52 am to InGAButLoveBama
I personally feel like this whole thing is a symptom of unparalleled and unrivaled dominance in the college football world. I remember some years ago when Finabaum was talking about what it was like for Bama fans during Bryant's run in the 70s. When a touchdown was scored by the home team at Legion Field or Bryant-Denny, you could hear a pin drop at some of those games because the team was expected to beat cream puffs by 40 points (just like they are today).
The atmosphere was much more electric in those days when the game was televised but that's because in those days you only had about three or four televised games a year if you were lucky. I have no doubt games like Louisiana Lafayette were just as bleh in 1973 as they are in 2018. Be that as it may, however, it looks far worse now than it did back then because just about every game is nationally televised.
The atmosphere was much more electric in those days when the game was televised but that's because in those days you only had about three or four televised games a year if you were lucky. I have no doubt games like Louisiana Lafayette were just as bleh in 1973 as they are in 2018. Be that as it may, however, it looks far worse now than it did back then because just about every game is nationally televised.
This post was edited on 10/4/18 at 11:55 am
Posted on 10/4/18 at 11:58 am to RollTide1987
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The atmosphere was much more electric in those days when the game was televised but that's because in those days you only had about three or four televised games a year if you were lucky. I have no doubt games like Louisiana Lafayette were just as bleh in 1973 as they are in 2018. Be that as it may, however, it looks far worse now than it did back then. Because just about every game is nationally televised.
I can remember games at Legion Field but now the way we access and consume entertainment and media is just so radically different. In those days, if you wanted to see Alabama, you had to go to the game or listen live on the radio. That was it. The internet, iPhone, and social media has radically transformed society and those days feel like the Stone Age. The current students now are really the first generation raised with all this stuff.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:00 pm to RollTide1987
I can't remember any Alabama games that were televised at Bryant Denny before the late 90's.
Maybe PPV? I didn't pay for those.
Maybe PPV? I didn't pay for those.
This post was edited on 10/4/18 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:05 pm to 3down10
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I can't remember any Alabama games that were televised at Bryant Denny before the late 90's.
There were several that were televised in the mid and late 80's. Don't really remember any before the west upper deck expansion except the 86 or 87 Penn State game.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:06 pm to 3down10
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Maybe PPV? I didn't pay for those.
The PPV was sooooo bad then......it was stupidly expense and the picture and sound quality was almost like it was beamed in from the moon.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:16 pm to 14&Counting
I don't even really remember PPV being available until maybe the early 90's? Or maybe it was just the crappy cable TV we had at the time that didn't offer it. I definitely remember having to listen to a lot of games in the 80's on the radio.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:23 pm to 3down10
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I can't remember any Alabama games that were televised at Bryant Denny before the late 90's.
The first game to ever be televised in Bryant-Denny was vs. Miami in 1979.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 1:38 pm to The Spleen
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I don't even really remember PPV being available until maybe the early 90's?
Yeah....it was around then.....and it was something like $25 per PPV game and looked like it was filmed underwater through gauze with D-list announcers.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 2:09 pm to 14&Counting
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Yeah....it was around then.....and it was something like $25 per PPV game and looked like it was filmed underwater through gauze with D-list announcers.
Was PPV available for every game or just select ones?
This post was edited on 10/4/18 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 10/4/18 at 2:30 pm to Lordofwrath88
I guess that could be true. But a lot of those out-of-state kids came because of the football team. And FWIW, I was an out-of-state kid during the painful Perkins/Curry years, and never missed a game, even directional Louisiana.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 3:04 pm to 14&Counting
We literally used to listen to Alabama games against mid-majors in the mid-1990s by calling a number and paying to have whoever was on the other end basically put a radio up against the receiver (as we lived in Tennessee).
We sat around the house in different rooms with phones to our ears listening to Eli Gold. I vividly remember listening to the La Tech loss in 1999 that way. I remember driving up to a certain spot on top of a hill where we could get the Kentucky Radio Network to listen to us lose to them in 1997 or 1998 in Lexington because the game wasn't on TV.
I remember being so excited about ESPN2 coming online because they promised to show Alabama/Vanderbilt and Alabama/Kentucky. Before that those games, 1/4 of the conference schedule, literally were not on television some years. And that was like 20 years ago, not 1960. It's crazy to think about.
We sat around the house in different rooms with phones to our ears listening to Eli Gold. I vividly remember listening to the La Tech loss in 1999 that way. I remember driving up to a certain spot on top of a hill where we could get the Kentucky Radio Network to listen to us lose to them in 1997 or 1998 in Lexington because the game wasn't on TV.
I remember being so excited about ESPN2 coming online because they promised to show Alabama/Vanderbilt and Alabama/Kentucky. Before that those games, 1/4 of the conference schedule, literally were not on television some years. And that was like 20 years ago, not 1960. It's crazy to think about.
This post was edited on 10/4/18 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 10/4/18 at 3:18 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Here are the number of Alabama games that were broadcast on TV between 1980 and 2000:
1980: 3 of 12
1981: 5 of 12
1982: 3 of 12
1983: 5 of 12
1984: 5 of 12
1985: 8 of 12
1986: 9 of 13
1987: 7 of 12
1988: 7 of 12
1989: 8 of 12
1990: 7 of 12 (plus 4 PPV games)
1991: 7 of 12 (plus 3 PPV games)
1992: 8 of 13 (plus 4 PPV games)
1993: 9 of 13 (plus 3 PPV games)
1994: 10 of 13 (plus 3 PPV games)
1995: 6 of 11 (plus 5 PPV games)
1996: 11 of 13 (plus 2 PPV games)
1997: 8 of 11 (plus 3 PPV games)
1998: 9 of 12 (plus 3 PPV games)
1999: 11 of 13 (plus 2 PPV games)
2000: 9 of 11 (plus 2 PPV games)
1980: 3 of 12
1981: 5 of 12
1982: 3 of 12
1983: 5 of 12
1984: 5 of 12
1985: 8 of 12
1986: 9 of 13
1987: 7 of 12
1988: 7 of 12
1989: 8 of 12
1990: 7 of 12 (plus 4 PPV games)
1991: 7 of 12 (plus 3 PPV games)
1992: 8 of 13 (plus 4 PPV games)
1993: 9 of 13 (plus 3 PPV games)
1994: 10 of 13 (plus 3 PPV games)
1995: 6 of 11 (plus 5 PPV games)
1996: 11 of 13 (plus 2 PPV games)
1997: 8 of 11 (plus 3 PPV games)
1998: 9 of 12 (plus 3 PPV games)
1999: 11 of 13 (plus 2 PPV games)
2000: 9 of 11 (plus 2 PPV games)
Posted on 10/4/18 at 3:44 pm to BamaGradinTn
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You want all the seats filled? Here's what you do:
The easier answer is you improve the fan experience. Going to sporting events is awful now from start to finish
- Poor and/or expensive parking
- No adult capri suns
- Expensive Concessions
- Ridiculously Long TV Timeouts
- Ridiculous amounts of TV Timeouts
- Uncomfortable Seating
- Difficult to be sitting with friends/family
- Possibly a garbage view of the game depending on seat quality
This great experience can be had for some $100+ per ticket.
I stopped buying tickets because I realized that going to tailgates, where I get a comfortable chair, better food and enjoy the game with friends >>>> paying an absurd amount to sit next to some obese sweaty 60YO
Posted on 10/4/18 at 3:45 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Kentucky Radio Network to listen to us lose to them in 1997 or 1998 in Lexington because the game wasn't on TV.
I'm almost positive that Kentucky game was on TV. I definitely remember watching the ending, and remember how much ESPN was hyping Tim Couch. Perhaps they did a cut-in since it was so close late in the game.
Think that was our first OT game ever as well.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 3:53 pm to RollTide1987
We have UGA and Oklahoma to thank for having so many tv games, or on the flip side, I guess you could say we have them to thank for some due part of why it's harder to fill the stadium these days.
The 7-2 court ruling allowed schools and conferences to forge their own television deals instead of relying on the NCAA to do so. That paved the way for today’s wave of eye-popping TV deals, growing sports conferences and dozens more games on TV every week.
The 7-2 court ruling allowed schools and conferences to forge their own television deals instead of relying on the NCAA to do so. That paved the way for today’s wave of eye-popping TV deals, growing sports conferences and dozens more games on TV every week.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 4:01 pm to John Milner
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We have UGA and Oklahoma to thank for having so many tv games
Having TV games isn't the problem. Making the live event fan experience trash is
Posted on 10/4/18 at 4:03 pm to GenesChin
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Having TV games isn't the problem. Making the live event fan experience trash is
I didn't say it's the problem but tv games were the recent discussion in this thread.
TV games are, though, part of the reason why less folks are attending games these days. The "live event fan experience trash" is also part of it.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 4:14 pm to John Milner
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TV games are, though, part of the reason why less folks are attending games these days. The "live event fan experience trash" is also part of it.
The only reason TV has an impact is because the live experience is so trash, that people would rather watch on TV.
Easy, quick fixes that would dramatically improve fan attendance for all 4 quarters
- Limit Commercial Time per quarter
- Reduce play clock to either 25 or 30 Seconds
- Reduce Halftime duration to either 12 (NFL) or 15 minutes
- Serve alcohol
The game has too much stoppage in time between commercials, dead time between plays and
This post was edited on 10/4/18 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 10/4/18 at 4:16 pm to The Spleen
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I'm almost positive that Kentucky game was on TV. I definitely remember watching the ending, and remember how much ESPN was hyping Tim Couch. Perhaps they did a cut-in since it was so close late in the game.
Nope, it was on PPV in Alabama and Kentucky (as I remember it and per Wikipedia).
This post was edited on 10/4/18 at 4:18 pm
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