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Posted on 6/2/21 at 1:42 pm to RollTide4Ever
Posted on 6/2/21 at 1:42 pm to RollTide4Ever
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Look forward to people crowing after Dabo-led Bama team gets crushed in a game right after he trash talks the opponent.
You know the odds are far greater that he'll win a championship and you'll continue to look like a fricking stooge.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 1:47 pm to RollTide4Ever
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Look forward to people crowing after Dabo-led Bama team gets crushed in a game right after he trash talks the opponent.
Him saying Ohio State didn't belong wasn't trash talking. It was an opinion.
I happen to agree with it.
If they had beaten Bama, I still would agree with it.
They didn't belong there after 6 games.
I actually give him props for saying what the believes.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 3:31 pm to Grievous Angel
Coach K retiring and rumor is his assistant Jon Scheyer is next in line (I like Scheyer). Surprised Duke isn't going after Jay Wright or the Baylor coach according to the logic in this thread.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 4:51 pm to RollTide4Ever
Oh, a Dabo to Bama thread.
I've never seen one of these before. It's soooooooo hot.
I've never seen one of these before. It's soooooooo hot.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 6:17 pm to UASports23
This thread saddens me.
But it also reminds me of something.
Saban and Dabo are good friends.
And in a way, they remind me of Spock and Kirk. Saban = Spock. Dabo, Kirk.
They too are good friends.
I don't want to bore you, but I can think of plenty of times Kirk screwed up...
Like when he had Sex With An Alien, Risking Inter-Species Pregnancy, or creating the whole Khan problem by setting him free...twice. Not to mention, the multiple times he violates the prime directive.
Kirk was reckless and illogical often. Just like Dabo insulting Ohio State.
Everyone knew Spock was smarter.
But he was a bit cold... Too into the process. Just too logical for some. But so efficient.
So what we are really doing here is debating whether or not a Kirk, with all his reckless goofiness could follow a Spock as head coach.
And the answer is yes. It would be different. It would be less organized and a little less dignified. But when Kirk took over that chair... that captains chair, and barked "warp factor 2 Mr. Sulu, we would all know that everything was gonna be alright.
What I'm trying to say is, let's
not try to go out and find another Vulcan, like Spock. There is no other Spock, or Saban. Let's just go with Captain Kirk.
And if Kirk can like Spock, and Saban Dabo, then you can like Dabo, and we can like each other to.
Fair enough?
But it also reminds me of something.
Saban and Dabo are good friends.
And in a way, they remind me of Spock and Kirk. Saban = Spock. Dabo, Kirk.
They too are good friends.
I don't want to bore you, but I can think of plenty of times Kirk screwed up...
Like when he had Sex With An Alien, Risking Inter-Species Pregnancy, or creating the whole Khan problem by setting him free...twice. Not to mention, the multiple times he violates the prime directive.
Kirk was reckless and illogical often. Just like Dabo insulting Ohio State.
Everyone knew Spock was smarter.
But he was a bit cold... Too into the process. Just too logical for some. But so efficient.
So what we are really doing here is debating whether or not a Kirk, with all his reckless goofiness could follow a Spock as head coach.
And the answer is yes. It would be different. It would be less organized and a little less dignified. But when Kirk took over that chair... that captains chair, and barked "warp factor 2 Mr. Sulu, we would all know that everything was gonna be alright.
What I'm trying to say is, let's
not try to go out and find another Vulcan, like Spock. There is no other Spock, or Saban. Let's just go with Captain Kirk.
And if Kirk can like Spock, and Saban Dabo, then you can like Dabo, and we can like each other to.
Fair enough?
Posted on 6/2/21 at 7:18 pm to RiverCityTider
I'm more of a Sisko fan (Deep Space Nine).
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:44 pm to m2pro
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It's the ability to sustain that is needed.
He's averaged over 12 wins a year for a decade. He's made six out of seven playoffs and four out of seven CFP championships.
Here's a comparison from the playoff era
Nick Saban
Overall 91-8
Conference 53-5
Conference titles 5
CFP appearances 6
NCG appearances 5
Nat'l Champs 3
Dabo Swinney
Overall 89-10
Conference 53-5
Conference titles 6
CFP appearances 6
NCG appearances 4
Nat'l Champs 2
Head to head Saban leads 3-2 (2-2 in playoffs and championships)
I don't give a shite how "goofy" he is. He recruits elite players and wins with them, and he's better at that than every coach in football except Saban.
I don't think he'd ever leave Clemson, but you'd have to be pretty fricking stupid to call anyone else first.
This post was edited on 6/2/21 at 10:45 pm
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:16 pm to Evolved Simian
I think one thing to watch going forward is the signal stealing story. Now that it's more well known that Clemson is accused of it they have lost their two most recent playoff games, by pretty decent margins. Will be interesting to see if that trend continues.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 11:43 am to Evolved Simian
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I don't give a shite how "goofy" he is. He recruits elite players and wins with them, and he's better at that than every coach in football except Saban.
I don't think he'd ever leave Clemson, but you'd have to be pretty fricking stupid to call anyone else first.
I am not a Dabo fan by any means, don't care for his aw shucks persona, his record is padded by playing in a vastly inferior conference, and he still manages to shite the bed at least once a year.
But yeah, if we could get him at that point you would be foolish to go another direction because I don't see anyone else on the horizon who could potentially fill Saban's shoes. I don't think Dabo would be intimidated by the challenge. He recruits at a high level, appears to run a generally clean program, and is a proven winner. He would defiently take program down the road a ways and we would have continued to success and probably win a couple of more titles with him at the helm. i mean at least we know what we are getting with Dabo.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 5:04 pm to 14&Counting
We better get a world class coach while the coffers and roster is full. If we make the wrong choice, it might not be so easy to make a home run choice down the road
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:50 pm to RiverCityTider
I humbly submit that Dabo has been so successful BECAUSE he is at Clemson. Dabo has profited tremendously from the fall of FSU and Miami from the ranks of contenders. Remember, he couldn’t beat FSU when the Noles were competitive.
Dabo can recruit with anyone. It is his strength and he’s among the very best at it. With the vacuum of competition in the ACC, he is raking in the talent and is light years ahead of the rest of the league in blue chippers. Yet he still shits the bed at least once a year against vastly inferior competition. The same posters that are begging for Dabo to follow Saban laugh at Ryan Day for losing a game in the B1G because of the talent gap. News flash, the B1G is much better than the ACC from top to bottom. Dabo had equal if not better talent than Day had this year but Day outcoached him and won. So why should we be so impressed with Dabo?
Dabo has one of the best coaching records in the country outside our own. I respect what he’s accomplished at Clemson. But it’s been a pretty easy path for him to take and still he’s had hiccups along the way. If he took over in Tuscaloosa, the talent gap will not be so wide as it is in Clemson and he would not go 12-0 or 11-1 every year. In short, he would be a bad fit in Tuscaloosa. We could do worse for sure. But I think we can do as well or better when the time comes. And if Dabo is smart, it might just be a moot point then too.
Dabo can recruit with anyone. It is his strength and he’s among the very best at it. With the vacuum of competition in the ACC, he is raking in the talent and is light years ahead of the rest of the league in blue chippers. Yet he still shits the bed at least once a year against vastly inferior competition. The same posters that are begging for Dabo to follow Saban laugh at Ryan Day for losing a game in the B1G because of the talent gap. News flash, the B1G is much better than the ACC from top to bottom. Dabo had equal if not better talent than Day had this year but Day outcoached him and won. So why should we be so impressed with Dabo?
Dabo has one of the best coaching records in the country outside our own. I respect what he’s accomplished at Clemson. But it’s been a pretty easy path for him to take and still he’s had hiccups along the way. If he took over in Tuscaloosa, the talent gap will not be so wide as it is in Clemson and he would not go 12-0 or 11-1 every year. In short, he would be a bad fit in Tuscaloosa. We could do worse for sure. But I think we can do as well or better when the time comes. And if Dabo is smart, it might just be a moot point then too.
This post was edited on 6/4/21 at 11:52 pm
Posted on 6/5/21 at 12:25 am to phil4bama
1) you're an idiot if you think Dabo would be wrong for the job
2) you're an idiot if you think Dabo would take the job.
It's a fun topic. But I'd take him. But he ain't coming.
Time to move on to another successor.
2) you're an idiot if you think Dabo would take the job.
It's a fun topic. But I'd take him. But he ain't coming.
Time to move on to another successor.
Posted on 6/5/21 at 8:19 am to Grievous Angel
Everyone said Saban would never take the job. Mal should have just believed them I guess.
As for Dabo, don't throw out up and comers and names nobody has heard of, and then veto Dabo.
This is not Basketball.
We have a chance to hire a proven top coach. If Dabo can recruit like he does at Clemson, imagine what he could do at Bama.
But some of you people have resigned yourself to the fact that there will be a major decline. So I guess you want to insure it by bringing in an unproven head coach.
As for Dabo, shitting the bed, I've watched him in the playoffs every year and that's all I need to see.
Clemson would definitely be the most feared --- only feared --- opponent Bama has faced in recent years. That says something.
As for Dabo, don't throw out up and comers and names nobody has heard of, and then veto Dabo.
This is not Basketball.
We have a chance to hire a proven top coach. If Dabo can recruit like he does at Clemson, imagine what he could do at Bama.
But some of you people have resigned yourself to the fact that there will be a major decline. So I guess you want to insure it by bringing in an unproven head coach.
As for Dabo, shitting the bed, I've watched him in the playoffs every year and that's all I need to see.
Clemson would definitely be the most feared --- only feared --- opponent Bama has faced in recent years. That says something.
This post was edited on 6/5/21 at 8:30 am
Posted on 6/5/21 at 12:06 pm to RiverCityTider
I've always been of the belief that IF Dabo were to ever take the job it would be in similar style as Roy Williams to from Kansas to UNC...he wouldn't take it initially but might be the second coach post Saban.
Posted on 6/6/21 at 8:02 am to phil4bama
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I humbly submit that Dabo has been so successful BECAUSE he is at Clemson.
Nonsense.
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Dabo has profited tremendously from the fall of FSU and Miami from the ranks of contenders. Remember, he couldn’t beat FSU when the Noles were competitive.
1. Miami hasn't been a contender in 20 years and isn't going to be again. Do we hold it against Saban that Tennessee hasn't been worth a shite in about the same amount of time and Florida hasn't been really strong since Tebow?
2. When FSU was at its post-Bowden best under Jimbo, Dabo was still making a name for himself and gaining experience. The guy started at midseason in 2008 as a 38 year old interim HC who had never even been a coordinator before.
3. Maybe Dabo helped cause the decline of his ACC rivals. Ever think of that?
Dabo had no experience, no track record whatsoever to sell recruits, and no program prestige to naturally bring in talent - and yet he's gone on to win two national titles and play for two more. To think what he has done is anything short of amazing is frickin' stupid.
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et he still shits the bed at least once a year against vastly inferior competition.
Saban tends to lay an egg each year too.
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But it’s been a pretty easy path for him to take
Oh yeah. Taking over a medicore team at midseason when you don't even know if you're going to have a job at the end of the season is such an easy way to begin your path to national titles.
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If he took over in Tuscaloosa, the talent gap will not be so wide as it is in Clemson and he would not go 12-0 or 11-1 every year.
I believe he would keep the program rolling quite well and win multiple national titles if he started at Bama tomorrow. He would get better players at Bama than he does at Clemson.
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In short, he would be a bad fit in Tuscaloosa.
The only fit he would have to worry about at Bama is for his national championship rings.
Posted on 6/6/21 at 9:23 am to m2pro
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It's the ability to sustain that is needed
I’d say going to the college football playoffs every year is sustaining.
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have never been high on the Dabo stock anyway. I don't mean to discredit the guy, but Les Miles got to a couple national titles also. Even won one. Larry Coker also...
Lol at these comparisons. A guy who literally built a program from a punchline to a 2 time national champion vs 2 guys who walked into the the possibly most talented teams in the country
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