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re: So is it safe to say Golding is staying?
Posted on 1/20/20 at 10:25 pm to Lucky_Stryke
Posted on 1/20/20 at 10:25 pm to Lucky_Stryke
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So is it safe to say Golding is staying?
It's premature to assume that before the month of February has come and gone.
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 8:37 am
Posted on 1/20/20 at 10:27 pm to YStar
I think if Golding stays the biggest thing that kept him here was Saban didn’t get the guy he wanted.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 10:42 pm to phil4bama
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I think if Golding stays the biggest thing that kept him here was Saban didn’t get the guy he wanted.
I think that would be the only reason
Saban isn't blind, he sees what we all see and even much more.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 10:48 pm to YStar
I think we'll see a change after NSD.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 11:58 pm to YStar
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He couldn't develop his own position players who looked the same as the first game they played.
Stopped reading because this is straight up bullshite.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 12:07 am to 3down10
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Stopped reading because this is straight up bull shite.
I don't really think anyone cares what your opinions are om this topic because you have shown you lack any kind of objectivity.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 8:13 am to Panthers4life
as previously noted, I don't know why Saban doesn't just coordinate the defense himself, especially since he's one of the best defensive coaches in the game. Quite a few head coaches coordinate their offense, and I know there are and have been some head coaches that coordinated the defense, though head coaches don't generally refer to is as coordinator whether offense or defense.
I think Saban is as capable as any other head coach to manage the team and coach the defense too. Perhaps he thinks that coordinating the defense during the games would sometimes take his attention away from what's going on with the offense. Maybe that's not such a bad thing. If you trust the offensive coordinator enough to hire him, let him run it.
edit to say that I'd trust Sarkisian to run the offense more than I'd trust Golding to run the defense.
Far far be it for me to support Orgeron but I think he stayed out of the way of the offense and let Brady do his thing this past season. That is, I'm nearly certain is was Brady's offense and not Ensminger. Still, up until Tua's injury vs UT our offense was as good. In fact, Tua had thrown for more tds than Burrow had, and had only 1 interception to Burrow's 3. I'm starting to ramble now so I'll shut up.
Just to say that if Golding is returning, I hope Saban is heavily involved in the defense, at least more than apparently was the case last season.
I think Saban is as capable as any other head coach to manage the team and coach the defense too. Perhaps he thinks that coordinating the defense during the games would sometimes take his attention away from what's going on with the offense. Maybe that's not such a bad thing. If you trust the offensive coordinator enough to hire him, let him run it.
edit to say that I'd trust Sarkisian to run the offense more than I'd trust Golding to run the defense.
Far far be it for me to support Orgeron but I think he stayed out of the way of the offense and let Brady do his thing this past season. That is, I'm nearly certain is was Brady's offense and not Ensminger. Still, up until Tua's injury vs UT our offense was as good. In fact, Tua had thrown for more tds than Burrow had, and had only 1 interception to Burrow's 3. I'm starting to ramble now so I'll shut up.
Just to say that if Golding is returning, I hope Saban is heavily involved in the defense, at least more than apparently was the case last season.
This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 8:23 am
Posted on 1/21/20 at 8:42 am to YStar
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He couldn't develop his own position players who looked the same as the first game they played.
I think that Christian Harris looked good and improved in the last part of the season.
Shane Lee is just too damn slow to cover folks. He's not a bad player, but he needs to shed some weight or something. Not much Golding can do about that, except play someone over him who can cover. Not sure if Kaho is underdeveloped, or if he is just isn't picking up the concepts. He has looked pretty good when given the chance.
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Newsflash: If the guy needs 5star veterans at every position to be remotely good he isn't that good.
We were "remotely good." That is the thing that some of us try to point out. The idea that our defense was awful is based on little to nothing. Stats don't lie, and statistically we were pretty good on defense in 2019, despite a mountain of injuries.
Furthermore, focusing more on the "veterans" part of your statement than the "5-star," having veterans call the defense instead of true freshmen is a BIG difference. We expected to take lumps in 2019 because of this.
I kind of agree with you that development is a question mark, but I also don't think that it is a fact that Golding is not developing our players.
This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 8:47 am
Posted on 1/21/20 at 8:54 am to John Milner
Something else to consider with Golding.
It was rumored he had some off field family issue going on. That can mean a lot of different things. Either way, I'm sure it played a role and affected the job. Perhaps, he solved that issue and Saban feels that Golding can get it done with a healthy defense and him (Golding) being able to focus 100% on the task at hand.
It was rumored he had some off field family issue going on. That can mean a lot of different things. Either way, I'm sure it played a role and affected the job. Perhaps, he solved that issue and Saban feels that Golding can get it done with a healthy defense and him (Golding) being able to focus 100% on the task at hand.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:08 am to YStar
quote:As you said, "and even much more".
Saban isn't blind, he sees what we all see [b]and even much more[/b].
Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:21 am to Bolivar Shagnasty
In the fall of the Roman Empire, it wasn't defeated by the enemy, it crumbled from within.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:43 am to bamameister
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In the fall of the Roman Empire, it wasn't defeated by the enemy, it crumbled from within.
Actually, there were several factors that contributed, internal, and external.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:47 am to Panthers4life
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Golding staying

Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:49 am to Funky Tide 8
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Actually, there were several factors that contributed, internal, and external.
Actually, it was never conquered by the next world power, as was Medo-Persia, Babylon, Greece for example. It was much more decaying of standards within the infrastructure that allowed it to politically, religiously, socially, slowly sink into the sunset after many centuries of abuse.
It works.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 10:13 am to Panthers4life
The "Sports Director" at the local CBS affiliate?
Yeah, he knows less than we do.
His guess could be right, though. We could keep Pete, the Golding's Groupies on this forum can celebrate and make out, and we'll lose 2 or 3 games, again, next year, and enjoy the Citrus Bowl, again, while watching 4 other teams in the CFP.
I know what will happen. You know what will happen. Golding's Groupies know what will happen. Nick Saban knows what will happen.
I mean unless he has some embarrassing photos of Nick Saban, no way he's staying... unless it's in some other capacity. As for me, I'd have him banned from campus and wouldn't even let him be a custodian in a different building. But, if Nick wants to make him H20 Quality Control Specialist, I wouldn't like it, but I'd give Nick this one.
Yeah, he knows less than we do.
His guess could be right, though. We could keep Pete, the Golding's Groupies on this forum can celebrate and make out, and we'll lose 2 or 3 games, again, next year, and enjoy the Citrus Bowl, again, while watching 4 other teams in the CFP.
I know what will happen. You know what will happen. Golding's Groupies know what will happen. Nick Saban knows what will happen.
I mean unless he has some embarrassing photos of Nick Saban, no way he's staying... unless it's in some other capacity. As for me, I'd have him banned from campus and wouldn't even let him be a custodian in a different building. But, if Nick wants to make him H20 Quality Control Specialist, I wouldn't like it, but I'd give Nick this one.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 10:16 am to bamameister
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It works
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It was much more decaying of standards within the infrastructure that allowed it to politically, religiously, socially, slowly sink into the sunset after many centuries of abuse.
oh, is that what is happening?
Posted on 1/21/20 at 10:19 am to Funky Tide 8
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oh, is that what is happening? ok.
It won't be because of talent, now, will it?
Posted on 1/21/20 at 10:24 am to YStar
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I don't really think anyone cares what your opinions are om this topic because you have shown you lack any kind of objectivity.
Except I was the one who pointed out the insider information on the topic was bullshite and have been right about the situation the entire time.
And I have 0 inside information.
You guys are just fueled by your own ignorance and don't want to admit it was the offense that caused our losses this year.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 10:24 am to Chancellor
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We could keep Pete, the Golding's Groupies on this forum can celebrate and make out,
I really haven't seen many, if any, on here that are crazy about Golding. The "us vs them" mentality is a lazy way to look at this. I think that some of us are just weighing the outcomes, and would be ok with us having some actual continuity with our DC instead of taking a chance on bringing someone completely new in, making it our 4th DC in 4 years.
Also, some of us can look at it objectively and realize that our defense that was riddled with important injuries was not bad last year. Stats(facts) back this opinion up.
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and we'll lose 2 or 3 games, again, next year, and enjoy the Citrus Bowl, again, while watching 4 other teams in the CFP.
newsflash: the offensive mistakes have contributed at least as much to our last 3 losses as the defense has. I'm not sure what is s hard to understand about that?
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I know what will happen. You know what will happen. Golding's Groupies know what will happen. Nick Saban knows what will happen.
You know nothing.
This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 10:31 am
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