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re: So is it safe to say Golding is staying?
Posted on 1/21/20 at 11:45 am to 3down10
Posted on 1/21/20 at 11:45 am to 3down10
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lets instead blame the injury depleted defense
The paradigm appears to have shifted...just a few years ago, primarily when Hurts was QB (but some times even before that), it was always the offense's fault, even when the defense was occasionally giving up 500+ yards and/or 40+ points in a game...
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 11:52 am to OldPete
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The paradigm appears to have shifted...just a few years ago, primarily when Hurts was QB (but some times even before that), it was always the offense's fault, even when the defense was occasionally giving up 500+ yards and/or 40+ points in a game...
Yeah, I don't get the fanbase at all.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 11:57 am to 3down10
Same here
Posted on 1/21/20 at 11:57 am to OldPete
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The paradigm appears to have shifted...just a few years ago, primarily when Hurts was QB (but some times even before that), it was always the offense's fault, even when the defense was occasionally giving up 500+ yards and/or 40+ points in a game...
3 and outs, like Jalen was so apt at, provide about the same amount of rest for your defense as a quick score. Given the options between the 2, I'll take the points. Having a game manager who would grind the clock was great for our defense and bad for the other teams. It's a double edged sword.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 11:58 am to Pandy Fackler
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For me it doesn't matter. If Golding stays or leaves, it just means the man knows what he's doing. For alot of you though. If Golding stays, it means Saban should hang up his whistle and move on. Because nobody keeps a coach as shitty as Pete Golding unless they've lost something.
I personally believe that Aranda is much better than Golding, but he ain't coming. Is he the worst DC in America, someone would have to qualify the metrics involved in that selection.
Coach Saban has choices to make after every season. I recall the wholesale changes Saban made after last season. Both offensively and defensively. How do you explain that? Some of these guys just got here, like coach "Kool."
Some left to take better jobs. Like coach Locksley. Suppose Maryland doesn't come a calling? Do you hang with an OC that just got exposed after the Miss State blueprint was out? Do you hang onto a coordinator that racked up the yards and points but who's schemes got exposed as a quick throwing, one read offense?
Coach Saban didn't have to make the call because Maryland took him out of the conversation. Coach Saban has had to hire enough coaches in the last 2 seasons alone that clearly indicate he's not infallible in his hiring process and at times needs a quick redo.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 12:14 pm to MoarKilometers
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3 and outs, like Jalen was so apt at, provide about the same amount of rest for your defense as a quick score. Given the options between the 2, I'll take the points. Having a game manager who would grind the clock was great for our defense and bad for the other teams. It's a double edged sword.
But Jalen wasn't out there spotting the other team a bunch of points either.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 12:22 pm to 3down10
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But Jalen wasn't out there spotting the other team a bunch of points either.
What he lacked in throwing ints, he more than made up for with his fumbles.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 12:23 pm to Cobrasize
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 12:35 pm to MoarKilometers
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3 and outs, like Jalen was so apt at, provide about the same amount of rest for your defense as a quick score.
Won't argue that, but at the same time, some times you've got to get a stop on 3rd down and get off the field, which we couldn't do much of in '15 and '16 against Clemson or Ole Miss...and those were good defenses...
In the '16 season championship, when we played against Clemson, they ran 99 plays and wore down our D. Problem is, the year before when we beat Clemson, they ran less plays and we won time of possession (albeit slightly) and they still ran circles around our defense even though we won. Same thing against Ole Miss in '15 and '16; they put up huge numbers in both games (1 win, 1 loss) while we dominated time of possession in both. Our D in those four games had more of a Deshaun Watson/Chad Kelly issue as opposed to 'playing with a sorry offense' issue...
This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 1/21/20 at 12:41 pm to OldPete
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In the '16 season championship, when we played against Clemson, they ran 99 plays and wore down our D.
We also went 2 for 15 on 3rd down... 7 or 8 were 3 and outs. Defense got 2 turnovers as well.
This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 1/21/20 at 12:49 pm to OldPete
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In the '16 season championship, when we played against Clemson, they ran 99 plays and wore down our D. Problem is, the year before when we beat Clemson, they ran less plays and we won time of possession (albeit slightly) and they still ran circles around our defense even though we won. Same thing against Ole Miss in '15 and '16; they put up huge numbers in both games (1 win, 1 loss) while we dominated time of possession in both. Our D in those four games had more of a Deshaun Watson/Chad Kelly issue as opposed to 'playing with a sorry offense' issue...
Putting 2016 NC into perspective for a serious Alabama fan is dang near impossible. True enough Clemson ran 99 plays. But the score was 24-14 going into the 4th quarter. Our defense had Watson where we wanted him.
From there we had a two-fold issue wthat was manifesting itself for 4 quarters. Alabama had to punt the ball 10 times. More, by far, than anytime all season. Jalen and Sark were not keeping a tired Bama defense off the field and the dam broke.
And the second: Has anyone ever heard of firing your OC a few days before a NC game? I haven't either.
It took both and a seasoned and great QB in Deshaun Watson to beat that GREAT defense on the 99th play. And the refs missed the "pick." OK, maybe 4 things.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 12:58 pm to Lucky_Stryke
I’d like to see how Golding does with not having to deal with injuries and tins of freshmen. That was hard for any DC to really shine. Hopefully he will do a good job this season.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 1:11 pm to bamameister
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It took both and a seasoned and great QB in Deshaun Watson to beat that GREAT defense on the 99th play. And the refs missed the "pick." OK, maybe 4 things.
Agreed...
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And the second: Has anyone ever heard of firing your OC a few days before a NC game? I haven't either.
I don't know all the details but this is one of the few things I've ever second-guessed Saban on...would've thought it wouldn't have been that hard to put up with Kiffin for one more week. Then again, as I said, I don't know all the dynamics of what was going on behind the scene. Not blaming Sark as he was put in a hard place, but still think we win that game if Kiffin is calling the plays...
Posted on 1/21/20 at 1:57 pm to MoarKilometers
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What he lacked in throwing ints, he more than made up for with his fumbles.
He lost 5 fumbles in 2017 and 0 in the NCG.
It was the 3rd down conversions, only 2 for 15 that did things in. Alabama still had a 10 point lead going into the 4th quarter, and Jalen even took the lead back again on his final possession, but the defense gave up 21 of the 35 points in the 4th quarter.
No doubt the defense was tired, so we all excused it and I don't really disagree with it.
Yet for some reason, this year we aren't able to give the defense any slack or recognize all the external factors nobody had control over which probably affected things a hell of a lot more than a tired out defense late in a game.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 4:27 pm to MoarKilometers
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We also went 2 for 15 on 3rd down... 7 or 8 were 3 and outs.
Holy shite that’s bad.
And we still have that OC...
Posted on 1/21/20 at 4:31 pm to 3down10
It was always safe to say Golding was staying. Saban loves the guy
I’d also bet that Shane Lee is going to be the co-captain of our defense, and be the main guy sent on (delayed) blitzes. Mayden will be the captain of the secondary. Barmore will spend another year on the bench
I’d also bet that Shane Lee is going to be the co-captain of our defense, and be the main guy sent on (delayed) blitzes. Mayden will be the captain of the secondary. Barmore will spend another year on the bench
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 1/21/20 at 5:01 pm to uofarolltide
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It was always safe to say Golding was staying. Saban loves the guy
I’d also bet that Shane Lee is going to be the co-captain of our defense, and be the main guy sent on (delayed) blitzes. Mayden will be the captain of the secondary. Barmore will spend another year on the bench.
Guys, we’re screwed
Go ahead and prepare yourselves for another nightmare season. The decline is in full effect
Chicken little Posted on 1/21/20 at 5:34 pm to uofarolltide
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It was always safe to say Golding was staying. Saban loves the guy
I’d also bet that Shane Lee is going to be the co-captain of our defense, and be the main guy sent on (delayed) blitzes. Mayden will be the captain of the secondary. Barmore will spend another year on the bench.
Guys, we’re screwed
Go ahead and prepare yourselves for another nightmare season. The decline is in full effect
If you’re going to melt, this how you do it!! Jesus Christ!! Pack it in fellas, let’s wait for the 2021 season
Posted on 1/21/20 at 6:44 pm to 3down10
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That was a rumor from Boz, and he is 100% full of shite.
Also said a few weeks ago that Golding was lazy and goofy after saying he was a hard worker for two straight years. It is what it is man. Gotta let it go and not listen to that clown.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 7:47 pm to Dubosed
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Also said a few weeks ago that Golding was lazy and goofy after saying he was a hard worker for two straight years. It is what it is man. Gotta let it go and not listen to that clown.
Yeah, problem is other people take it and act like it's fact.
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