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re: Pete Golding
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:25 am to BamaLoop00
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:25 am to BamaLoop00
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Any idea what he is referring to by saying our NIL is a joke?
Guessing it would be in comparison to the current Texas A&M, Florida, Miami, et al. throw-it-all-into-recruiting approach (which, by the way, is not what NIL was intended to be).
I would point to the issues at Texas A&M this season as to the viability of that model. A handful of 18-year-olds with millions of dollars in a locker room with other players has not worked out well.
Similarly, there is a question of sustainability. To use Texas A&M again, who is putting up millions of dollars? Are they going to do that every single year, in perpetuity?
Our program is (and has been) more of a long-term investment that pitches development. If you're a young player who is looking to get rich quick, that might not be for you. But that player might not necessarily be right for us either.
In this instance, maybe Pete wants us to be like those other teams. Whether he is right or wrong, I can assure you that Nick Saban does not.
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:39 am to crimsontater
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. i dont see how a school can force any individual player to give up his earnings to the collective.
I don’t know if any program is doing that, certainly not Alabama, as Bryce Young has reportedly made over 3 million dollars in NIL deals.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:47 am to CrimsonBoz
C'mon now, guys. This is bogus. Even if the story was true, Saban would just say "I apologize for making you feel that way, oh Great Master of the Whiteboard" and give Pete a raise.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 12:20 pm to Panthers4life
Sad…this post…wow
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:37 pm to WW
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If anything happens it won't until we are announced out of the playoffs.
Early signing period
Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:01 pm to A-TOWNUAFAN
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Early signing period
Not sure why it matters. No offensive recruit is coming here because of BoB. They all know he's due to leave after this season anyway. The defensive recruits are coming due to Saban and not Golding. Golding might be their recruiter but they aren't coming to play for him.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:29 pm to DT55Forever1
quote:Not an O'Brien fan at all but that's not true.
No offensive recruit is coming here because of BoB
Eli Holstein says hello. Per 247 he is/was recruited by "Pete Golding/Bill O'Brien".
Holstein frequented Tuscaloosa throughout the spring continuing to foster those relationships and get familiar with the sights and sounds of the college town.
“These visits were about my relationship with Bill O’Brien,” Holstein told On3 earlier this month following a three-touchdown performance in the spring game.
“It was a lot more talking, looking around Tuscaloosa and the campus. Before it was a business trip — to camp, to get the offer, see the facilities. Recently, we’ve looked around the city of Tuscaloosa to see if I could live there and if I could enjoy it and college life in Tuscaloosa.”
Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:33 pm to Bamadiver
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No offensive recruit is coming here because of BoB
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Not an O'Brien fan at all but that's not true.
Yeah, BoB was the Primary recruiter on Ty, and the Secondary recruiter on Sayin, R. Young, Holstein, and Lonergan.
Now, those guys might not be coming to Bama because of BoB, but all in all it seems like he's been a pretty good recruiter for us (at least in terms of QBs).
Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:50 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
Some people were mentioning Tom Herman as a possible replacement for BoB, but it looks like he just got the HC job at FAU: Brett McMurphy Tweet
Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:59 pm to DT55Forever1
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The defensive recruits are coming due to Saban and not Golding. Golding might be their recruiter but they aren't coming to play for him.
Golding's recruitment is irrelevant when he's just going to put the guys in a 1-5-5 with each linebacker head up on an offensive lineman and each defensive back man to man against their worst possible matchup. This year's unit was loaded with five stars seniors and he made almost all of them invisible. Recruiting is the easier part of the job anyway, especially with NIL. Shouldn't be hard to find someone who can do that and actually have the guys occasionally in position with solid fundamentals.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 3:29 pm to Bamadiver
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Eli Holstein says hello.
Eli knew BoB would not be here next season. If Bob had left and gone to Georgia Tech, you think Eli would have followed him? Of course not.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 3:31 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
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Now, those guys might not be coming to Bama because of BoB, but all in all it seems like he's been a pretty good recruiter for us (at least in terms of QBs).
My point is that if BoB left, it wouldn't affect any of these players staying and I'm sure Saban's next hire would be a good recruiter of QBs.
Now, if BoB somehow magically sticks around and coaches these guys then I'll be the first to say I was wrong. However, the plan for BoB was always to finish out this season and move on to another job.
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BoB was the Primary recruiter on Ty, and the Secondary recruiter on Sayin, R. Young, Holstein, and Lonergan
And as far as these players go, we don't really know how good any of them are yet. Ty couldn't beat out Milroe with BoB's coaching and we all saw how BoB handled the QBs and offense this season. I'm willing to roll the dice on letting him go now.
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 12/1/22 at 3:59 pm to DT55Forever1
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Ty couldn't beat out Milroe with BoB's coaching and we all saw how BoB handled the QBs and offense this season.
I don't think that's a fair assessment of Ty's ability. Ty is a true Freshman and Milroe is a RS Freshman. So Milroe had an additional year to learn BoB's/Bama's system and adjust to football at a major college program.
If Ty doesn't beat out Milroe this off season, then maybe it's time to question whether he was worthy of the 5* rating.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 4:05 pm to DT55Forever1
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Ty couldn't beat out Milroe
Simpson is a true freshman. Not sure what you expect.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 4:07 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
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If Ty doesn't beat out Milroe this off season, then maybe it's time to question whether he was worthy of the 5* rating.
I think that's still too early to decide about that. Assuming he gets enough opportunity in the spring, and I think he will, then he will probably be here in the fall. I won't be surprised if Milroe started the first game, but I would be pretty surprised if Simpson isn't the starter by game 3 and thereafter.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 4:09 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
I agree about Ty's ability. My issue is with BoB's coaching of it.
Another way to look at it-look at what BoB did with Milroe who did have time in his system. Holy hell, that was bad.
Also, can anyone name one player that BoB helped to improve from last season to this? Even without the injury, Bryce was much better last season.
We can apply the same to Golding. Our players didn't improve. They regressed.
Another way to look at it-look at what BoB did with Milroe who did have time in his system. Holy hell, that was bad.
Also, can anyone name one player that BoB helped to improve from last season to this? Even without the injury, Bryce was much better last season.
We can apply the same to Golding. Our players didn't improve. They regressed.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 4:21 pm to DT55Forever1
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Also, can anyone name one player that BoB helped to improve from last season to this? Even without the injury, Bryce was much better last season.
We can apply the same to Golding. Our players didn't improve. They regressed.
The loss of his two dynamic WR's from last year plus his shoulder injury affected Bryce this year. I'm not a BoB fan, but moreso because of his playcalling, not his QB development.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 4:34 pm to Crimson77
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Rounders is a hell of a time
I thought Rounders was just for underage people. Ole Pete must be trolling for a coed.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 4:53 pm to Tupelo
That's fair. It certainly didn't help. I just don't see the benefit of keeping him around.
The guys he's recruited aren't leaving if he leaves. I don't believe he's helping us improve. I think we could get a boost with a good hire and it could help our bowl prep practices to have the new guy in place.
My biggest fear is that nobody ends up wanting him and Saban keeps him just because he doesn't want to deal with having to fire him. He couldn't beat out Brent Key at Georgia Tech assuming he pursued the job.
The guys he's recruited aren't leaving if he leaves. I don't believe he's helping us improve. I think we could get a boost with a good hire and it could help our bowl prep practices to have the new guy in place.
My biggest fear is that nobody ends up wanting him and Saban keeps him just because he doesn't want to deal with having to fire him. He couldn't beat out Brent Key at Georgia Tech assuming he pursued the job.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 5:00 pm to BLG
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Milroe
Simpson is a true freshman. Not sure what you expect.
Considering how bad Milroe was, I expected Ty to get on the field IF BoB is some kind of QB guru that some think him to be.
The point is that BoB didn't develop any of the QB. That's pretty obvious. 80-90% of what Bryce did was because of his individual talent and improvisation.
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