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Posted on 4/13/26 at 2:52 pm to Marktastic86
It's not about the coverage, it's about the edge rushers position at the time of the throw and effort to disrupt the pass.
I'm not brushing off a stat line, i'm just pointing out the pocket presence items could play out differently in real game action. One handles pressure differently than the other, which is unsurprising given the experience difference.
I'm not brushing off a stat line, i'm just pointing out the pocket presence items could play out differently in real game action. One handles pressure differently than the other, which is unsurprising given the experience difference.
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Posted on 4/13/26 at 3:13 pm to Panthers4life
Seems like everytime it's one of those "he won't be ready at the start, but we expect him at some point during the season" things that you can assume that the player won't be making an impact at all...which really sucks. Alot of talk about getting up to speed, etc when they return, but the production never materializes. Hopefully he'll be the exception.
Posted on 4/13/26 at 3:17 pm to UhOhOreo
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It's not about the coverage, it's about the edge rushers position at the time of the throw and effort to disrupt the pass.
Here's the thing. I was at the game and I remember thinking several times "He never would have gotten that pass off in a game. He'd be sacked." Except it was always Mack I was thinking it about.
Posted on 4/13/26 at 3:50 pm to UhOhOreo
The flip side of that though is Russell had several runs that were whistled when he was just barely touched with one hand by a defender that would have been for a big run in a real game.
I thought overall he looked good. Not perfect but clearly flashed some elite skills. The good news is that he almost assuredly will get better with lots of reps.
I thought overall he looked good. Not perfect but clearly flashed some elite skills. The good news is that he almost assuredly will get better with lots of reps.
Posted on 4/13/26 at 8:35 pm to Amarillo Tide
Posted on 4/13/26 at 8:56 pm to Crimson Wraith
What is the consensus from this forum on the strength and conditioning program after viewing the spring game and last season?
A few past players have made recent statements that can be chalked up to sour grapes, but visually it does look a little different.
A few past players have made recent statements that can be chalked up to sour grapes, but visually it does look a little different.
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Posted on 4/13/26 at 9:07 pm to A-TOWNUAFAN
Posted on 4/13/26 at 10:54 pm to UhOhOreo
I don’t know if I’ve seen a post more out of touch. You are either a fraud or know little about QB play. Keelon’s pocket presence is already very good and will be elite. His release and accuracy are elite. Probably by the end of the year, assuming he has just a decent OL and running game, he would likely be a top half of the draft pick if he were eligible and next year he will likely be the first pick in the draft.
He has an arm, release, instincts, legs, and especially the mental makeup combo that Alabama has never had.
Morgan & co appear to be elite D player evaluators, DeBoer and maybe Sheridan are great QB evaluators, as well as, WR evaluators.
It’s the only reason Alabama has a chance to remain viable with a chance to climb back to the top of the mountain.
Just like Oats and Murphy and their evaluation and persuasion skills are the only reason BB has any chance at national relevance. But they have an even steeper hill to climb.
Of course any rule changes can only help - but will they come.? Stankey has been out-witted at every turn. I don’t believe the conspiracy theories, IMO, as I’ve said for a few years, he is simply incompetent and despises Alabama.
He has an arm, release, instincts, legs, and especially the mental makeup combo that Alabama has never had.
Morgan & co appear to be elite D player evaluators, DeBoer and maybe Sheridan are great QB evaluators, as well as, WR evaluators.
It’s the only reason Alabama has a chance to remain viable with a chance to climb back to the top of the mountain.
Just like Oats and Murphy and their evaluation and persuasion skills are the only reason BB has any chance at national relevance. But they have an even steeper hill to climb.
Of course any rule changes can only help - but will they come.? Stankey has been out-witted at every turn. I don’t believe the conspiracy theories, IMO, as I’ve said for a few years, he is simply incompetent and despises Alabama.
This post was edited on 4/13/26 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 4/14/26 at 12:50 am to tattoo
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 1:44 am to UhOhOreo
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Keelon's pocket presence concerned me.
That is just how he plays, similar to BY and Tua. The dude can pull up and let it rip on a dime; he uses his legs to draw the defense up and will weigh his passing options downfield until the last possible second - see ULM live game film from last year.
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Reminded me of Manziel dancing around in the backfield in terms of footwork quality.
Are you talking about Heisman trophy winner Johnny Manziel? The one who made Nick Saban’s defense look silly two years in a row? I’ll take it.
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The seam throw to Meadows
I’ve only seen highlights of the seam throw to CD Morgan, which couldn’t have been better and would have been completed in a real game even with the rush. Can you link the throw down the seam to Meadows?
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and that touchdown over the DB on the sideline (one where the db jumped 5 yards forward for no reason)
This is probably a valid take. He was late getting that one out. Likely would have been sacked, or on the run for his life at a minimum.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:09 am to Hawaiian Punch
Posted on 4/14/26 at 6:56 am to Hawaiian Punch
One thing that struck me watching Russell that I was impressed with was that he didn't get greedy. If the play to the primary or even secondary receiver wasn't there, he would check down to a RB or a TE in the flats for at least 5 yards. Nothing wrong with that. WAAAAAY better than trying to force a play where the odds are it's going to be picked off.
Most young QBs assume that stuff they could get away with in HS will always work in college. Russell has apparently already has learned or is learning that harsh lesson and generally doesn't make those kind of mistakes. That, to me, is very promising.
Most young QBs assume that stuff they could get away with in HS will always work in college. Russell has apparently already has learned or is learning that harsh lesson and generally doesn't make those kind of mistakes. That, to me, is very promising.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 8:50 am to Hawaiian Punch
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This is probably a valid take. He was late getting that one out. Likely would have been sacked, or on the run for his life at a minimum.
I’ll also just point out for both QBs that they’re playing against the best two deep secondary in the nation behind a new and unproven OL so I think they are both probably due a bit of consideration due to that alone as far as what we saw.
And yes, when I see KR make plays it feels like watching freshman Tua rip it while still learning because the “IT” factor is absolutely there.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:15 am to tide06
Won't be this year unless injuries come into play, but Thomalla has a lot of talent as well.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:16 am to Amarillo Tide
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If the play to the primary or even secondary receiver wasn't there, he would check down to a RB or a TE in the flats for at least 5 yards. Nothing wrong with that.
Hell that’s an air raid running game.
You stretch vertically with speed to get the safeties back (which we lacked due to injury last year), you spread them wide to open it up in the middle then you can hit seams, slants, throw to the flats and hopefully run the ball at some point due to numbers and space.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:40 am to Night Vision
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Won't be this year unless injuries come into play, but Thomalla has a lot of talent as well.
Pretty confident in saying CKD can identify and develop QBs which is what made the Jalen Milroe era so frustrating because we just didn’t have anyone who was ready to run his system yet.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:56 am to tide06
Russell is mighty thin. Every time I see him run I wonder how many big hits he can take.
Russell......6-3...201
Mack.........6-6...232
Thomalla...6-4...229
Kaawa.......6-5...238
Russell......6-3...201
Mack.........6-6...232
Thomalla...6-4...229
Kaawa.......6-5...238
Posted on 4/14/26 at 10:29 am to Hawaiian Punch
Just so we’re clear here, stating someone’s pocket movement is unrefined =\= oh my god he sucks.
Some of you are clutching pearls like I just insulted the pope
And yes, I am aware Manziel was good. That should’ve tipped you off that my comment wasn’t criticism about quality of play. I can recall Tua with the Louisville and Vanderbilt corner throws that were similar pocket movement, but Tua also got lit up quite a bit and railed by Saban at times for that.
Some of you are clutching pearls like I just insulted the pope
And yes, I am aware Manziel was good. That should’ve tipped you off that my comment wasn’t criticism about quality of play. I can recall Tua with the Louisville and Vanderbilt corner throws that were similar pocket movement, but Tua also got lit up quite a bit and railed by Saban at times for that.
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 1:48 pm to Chad4Bama
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Seems like everytime it's one of those "he won't be ready at the start, but we expect him at some point during the season" things that you can assume that the player won't be making an impact at all
If he were a DL id believe he would be back to make an impact but a skill guy who relies on speed and agility to get open?
Although with the advances in treatment maybes theres a better chance than 10-20 years ago?
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