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Posted on 1/15/23 at 7:33 pm to Shaft Williams
Posted on 1/15/23 at 7:33 pm to Shaft Williams
You should be happy I am trying to educate you to real FACTS, instead of believing the lies you tell yourself. Saban never should have hired him as OC because he is not a proven OC coach. Loxley's stats speak for themselves and there is no getting around it.
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Posted on 1/15/23 at 8:01 pm to Night Vision
I would’ve thought the same
Posted on 1/15/23 at 9:02 pm to Shocco
What trips me out is that the coaches don't think coaches at schools like Maryland, New Mexico State, etc are lesser coaches. But, many of us fans do. Some programs don't win for a myriad of reasons that have nothing to do with coaching.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 9:19 pm to RollTide33
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I've never claimed to have any inside information. I'm just a fan like most on this board. I find it hard to believe Saban allowed Milwee to coach Tua, Mac, and Bryce against NCAA regulations though. Seeing as how analysts are prohibited from doing that.
I could be wrong, but I think off-field staff can 'coach' players during voluntary off-season activities such as 7on7, film study, drills, etc. but not directly during official spring and fall practices or games. And, on field staff can't directly 'coach' players during voluntary off-season workouts.
This post was edited on 1/15/23 at 9:26 pm
Posted on 1/15/23 at 9:29 pm to Shocco
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You should be happy I am trying to educate you to real FACTS, instead of believing the lies you tell yourself.
You provided win/loss records. Not much of a stat. I am more interested in stats on offense like Maryland against OSU where Maryland out gained them on total yardage, passing yards, and yards per play. Imagine what Maryland would look like if Locks had the players OSU had on his offense.
This post was edited on 1/15/23 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 1/15/23 at 10:01 pm to TideWarrior
Brian Lindgren at Oregon State.
He's only 42. He took over a 1-11 team in 2018, and this year finished 10-3. 10-win seasons in Corvallis are RARE. Wonder what he could do with real talent. Oregon State lost to USC & Washington by a combined 6 points. They did get blown out by Utah in Salt Lake, but Utah is the cream of the crop in the PAC-12. OSU, fwiw, also beat Florida. Utah did not. I know UF had a much different team in Dec than in Sept. OSU should've played in a MUCH better bowl than they did.
The other thing is this guy could be had for cheap. He doesn't even make $800k at OSU.
I would at least interview him.
He's only 42. He took over a 1-11 team in 2018, and this year finished 10-3. 10-win seasons in Corvallis are RARE. Wonder what he could do with real talent. Oregon State lost to USC & Washington by a combined 6 points. They did get blown out by Utah in Salt Lake, but Utah is the cream of the crop in the PAC-12. OSU, fwiw, also beat Florida. Utah did not. I know UF had a much different team in Dec than in Sept. OSU should've played in a MUCH better bowl than they did.
The other thing is this guy could be had for cheap. He doesn't even make $800k at OSU.
I would at least interview him.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 11:44 pm to UltimaParadox
We have a six page thread about filling a vacancy that doesn't exist.
The Patriots are interviewing candidates this week, and yes, BoB is being mentioned as one of those candidates. But if Belichick was sold on BoB being able to do the job, he wouldn't need to interview a list of candidates, since BoB has had that job before.
The Patriots are interviewing candidates this week, and yes, BoB is being mentioned as one of those candidates. But if Belichick was sold on BoB being able to do the job, he wouldn't need to interview a list of candidates, since BoB has had that job before.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 11:45 pm to BamaGradinTn
BoB continuing to get high paying jobs is baffling to me.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 11:53 pm to BamaGradinTn
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The Patriots are interviewing candidates this week, and yes, BoB is being mentioned as one of those candidates. But if Belichick was sold on BoB being able to do the job, he wouldn't need to interview a list of candidates, since BoB has had that job before.
His contract expires in a few weeks and there has been no talk or rumor of an extension. Also, I'm pretty sure NFL teams do have to go through an interview process for job openings, even if it's widely known it's going to someone specific.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 11:53 pm to CrimsonFever
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He is a great OC and a shitty head coach. Youre using his head coaching record to say he would be a bad OC. That doesnt make any sense.
Exactly.
There's an even shittier ex head coach that everyone on this board would give their left nut to have back as a coordinator.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 11:54 pm to BamaGradinTn
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But if Belichick was sold on BoB being able to do the job, he wouldn't need to interview a list of candidates, since BoB has had that job before.
The Rooney Rule extends to GMs and coordinators as well since 2021. So, there is a minority interview requirement. All candidates will interview to ensure at least the appearance of fairness to all.
This post was edited on 1/15/23 at 11:57 pm
Posted on 1/16/23 at 10:33 am to Che Boludo
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Apparently, BoB is not "gung-ho" about returning to New England.
He better get gung-ho pretty quick because he ain't coming back here.
Apparently, BoB is not "gung-ho" about returning to New England.
He better get gung-ho pretty quick because he ain't coming back here.
Posted on 1/16/23 at 10:41 am to DT55Forever1
Patriots Rumors: Why Bill O’Brien ‘Not Gung-Ho’ About OC Job (NESN)
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Bill O’Brien seems like a perfect fit for the Patriots, but does he see it that way?
O’Brien, who spent one season as New England’s offensive coordinator in 2011, reportedly is a leading candidate for the Patriots’ OC vacancy. And with Bill Belichick set to interview coaches for the role this week, it might not be long before O’Brien is announced as Matt Patricia’s replacement.
However, Boston Sports Journal’s Greg Bedard on Saturday indicated that O’Brien, who spent the last two seasons with Alabama, might not be sold on a return to Foxboro.
“He checks all the boxes — knows the system, can coach the QB, has a relationship with (Mac) Jones, is not an outsider — and has probably learned a few new-age tricks in the college game,” Bedard wrote. “Last I heard, and this can change as quickly as the Patriots’ policy on commenting on contracts, he was not gung-ho about this gig due to the lack in clarity about the setup. If Belichick told O’Brien he had autonomy, including over assistants, that might make it more attractive.”
Whether Belichick would be willing to give O’Brien the power he reportedly wants is something only he knows. That said, Thursday night’s unprecedented statement released by the Patriots suggests team owner Robert Kraft might be pulling rank after yet another disappointing season in New England.
If Kraft wants O’Brien, and all it will take for a reunion is to give O’Brien some control over his staff, there might not be anything that Belichick can do about it. That’s just pure speculation, though.
Thankfully, this week should provide plenty of news on one of the more fascinating Patriots storylines in recent memory.
This post was edited on 1/16/23 at 10:55 am
Posted on 1/16/23 at 11:41 am to DT55Forever1
quote:Until Saban proves otherwise, I'm convinced Saban would let him come back if he didn't find another job because Saban is loyal to a fault with assistant coaches, even to the detriment of the team.
Apparently, BoB is not "gung-ho" about returning to New England. He better get gung-ho pretty quick because he ain't coming back here.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:54 am to Shocco
As of today I’m hearing
Joe Brady
Brian Johnson
Lebby
Joe Brady
Brian Johnson
Lebby
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 8:56 am
Posted on 1/17/23 at 9:02 am to CrimsonBoz
Brady - reportedly hated recruiting, how much of that success was Burrow being a stud? Not sure what to think on this one
Johnson - Was pretty successful as the OC for UF in 20, how much of that was Mullen though?
Lenny - OC for an awful Oklahoma team. No thanks.
Johnson - Was pretty successful as the OC for UF in 20, how much of that was Mullen though?
Lenny - OC for an awful Oklahoma team. No thanks.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 9:16 am to bamabenny
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Lenny - OC for an awful Oklahoma team. No thanks.
Lebby was the OC at UCF under Heupel and OC at OM under Kiffin before going to OU. And in regards to his job at OU, keep in mind that Riley pillaged and raped their roster (especially on offense) on his way out the door. Their offensive personnel was basically one big Band-Aid because all of their good players followed Riley to USC. Plus I would lay most of the blame for OU's woes on Venables. He appears to be a far better DC than HC, and least going off of his 1st year.
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 9:21 am
Posted on 1/17/23 at 9:21 am to UltimaParadox
Brian Johnson?
Thought he was in jail for his January 2, 2009 assault in New Orleans.
Thought he was in jail for his January 2, 2009 assault in New Orleans.
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 9:22 am
Posted on 1/17/23 at 9:32 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Brian Johnson
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 9:33 am
Posted on 1/17/23 at 9:37 am to Bamatab
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Lebby was the OC at UCF under Heupel and OC at OM under Kiffin before going to OU. And in regards to his job at OU, keep in mind that Riley pillaged and raped their roster (especially on offense) on his way out the door. Their offensive personnel was basically one big Band-Aid because all of their good players followed Riley to USC. Plus I would lay most of the blame for OU's woes on Venables. He appears to be a far better DC than HC, and least going off of his 1st year.
He did a hell of a job at UCF with a true freshman (Gabriel) and Milton. I don't hold this year with Oklahoma against him. At Ole Miss, his offenses were top 20 but wonder how it worked with he and Kiffin planning the offenses.
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