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re: New Head Coach Thread (Welcome Coach DeBoer)

Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:12 am to
Posted by Lucky_Stryke
central Bama
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:12 am to
Lanning or Kiffin are about the sure thing home run hires that are in play. At least with Kiffin the offense would not be unbearable and like him or not, he is relatable to kids. Also wouldn't mind if he brought dart with him for his last season lol. Also he might be able to reel in Ryan williams again

Lanning would be great and I don't see how you would turn down the job if it's offered. The players that are here currently he could do alot with.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16665 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:13 am to
Lanning's name has been hot since 4:00 yesterday afternoon and he's not said anything. That's not a bad sign for those hoping it's him.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46216 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:13 am to
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Hiring someone who would try to be Saban might be the single biggest mistake we could make


Agree to disagree


I mean, a big reason we wandered in the wilderness for most of the years between Bryant and Saban was the constant urge to hire guys with connections to Bryant. It only worked once.
Posted by WW
Member since Dec 2013
2598 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:15 am to
Link it
Posted by Remiden
Member since Jan 2018
1322 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:15 am to
Is linked about a few posts below his comment...
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11868 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:16 am to
Let me put one thing to rest for some of you. Saban did not wake up yesterday morning and decided to retire. He did not blindside Alabama or Greg Byrne. That’s not his style. Again, from my loosely connected source, Saban contacted Greg Byrne sometime between the Auburn game and the playoffs and told him that he might want to start thinking about what life after Nick Saban looked like for Alabama. That set the wheels in motion. Last week he again contacted Greg Byrne and told him to draw up two sets of papers one for a contract extension, the other one for retirement. He told him that he would let him know this week which set of papers were needed.,So things have been going on behind-the-scenes regarding this for at least a month. Thanks to Saban’s iron fist and Byrne the ninja, there were no leaks. Finally Monday Nick told Alabama what was happening and the plan was put in motion. Of course, Nick continued to work as if nothing were going on, because he’s that kind of man and professional to the end and how could he do any different without blowing his cover?
I haven’t heard any changes since last night. My source still stands by the ball is in Lanning’s court to make a decision, and if he says no Kiffin will set a land speed world record from Oxford to Tuscaloosa.
I wish I could tell you the wihy’s, but I have no confirmation of what that is. The overwhelming theory is that it’s Miss Terry‘s health, and I have no reason to doubt that. A contributing factor could be that Nick is just tired of the bullshite with the portal and with NIL. He warned college football this would happen, and once again, he has been proven, correct. While my own opinion is that was not the reason behind the decision, I think it was at least a factor.
This post was edited on 1/11/24 at 8:37 am
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56597 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:16 am to
Obviously, nobody here can say for sure, but if Lanning really does have a Nike "poison pill" stock vestment in his contract, then I don't see any way we hire him - that valuation + buyout + salary is a bit too steep for someone unproven. I think he has a chance to be a homerun, absurdly long-term hire, but I wouldn't pony up that much money to make it happen, if I had it.

If Sark has said no, which I expect he has or will, then you ask Lane, who would drag his nuts through glass all the way from Lafayette County to get the gig.
Posted by paperwasp
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Member since Sep 2014
29451 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:18 am to
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I wouldn't be surprised if he opened his door to all the players for individual meetings

Very good observation that I hadn't considered.

He most certainly meets with every player at least once a year and discusses their upcoming future plans and areas of need.

Would be a fitting way to go out.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46216 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:18 am to
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While I have no idea whether Lanning is here, there or anywhere, I do know that Oregon has lost two coaches recently and both times Oregon message boards were in deep denial and claiming coaches were staying. Lanning may well stay at Oregon, but their message boards have proven they generally have no clue.



Yeah I mean losing their 3rd coach in a row would fully establish them as a stepping stone program and no one is going to accept that without going through denial, anger, and bargaining first.
Posted by Carlton
Forced LANKing made the GOAT Retire
Member since Feb 2016
14761 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:24 am to
The poison pill thing is likely nonsense. Some form of it would have been Cristobal's contract. It is definitely far fetched.
Posted by Crimson_Chaos
Alabama
Member since Oct 2023
1488 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:25 am to
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He most certainly meets with every player at least once a year and discusses their upcoming future plans and areas of need.


Yep, and he meets with them regarding NFL & Transfer decisions. I would be surprised if he didn't have meetings with them about the future of the program, and the future of their development post-Saban. He's a true class act, and I personally trust that he will leave UA in the best situation he can.
Posted by paperwasp
2x HRV 2025 Poster of the Year
Member since Sep 2014
29451 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:28 am to
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A contributing factor could be that Nick is just tired of the bullshite with the portal and with NIL

Don't know about anything health-related, but I can almost 100% guarantee that this was or is a contributing factor.

He's also been very concerned about several legal battles coming down the pike, especially regarding players being deemed employees.

Would any of this be the reason? Probably not. But I bet it's one of the straws.
Posted by Hoyt
Alabama: The Beautiful
Member since Aug 2011
5648 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:29 am to
I just got the word it’s Lanning. He’s flying back to tell his team today and coming back to Tuscaloosa tomorrow for it to be announced. Per former SEC official with some pretty deep ties in Tuscaloosa. Three different sources telling him same thing.
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
15669 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:31 am to
I would like to see this rumor from a few different sources to feel confident

So much smoke out there right now
Posted by GWM
Member since Aug 2021
1565 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:34 am to
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Also wouldn't mind if he brought dart with him for his last season lol. Also he might be able to reel in Ryan williams again


True, I think Kiffin could get Williams, and George Macintyre to recommit and do great things in the future.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
20421 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:34 am to
Him being there is huge. Press conference and maybe a handoff.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46216 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:34 am to
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The poison pill thing is likely nonsense.


No coach in his right mind is going to sign a contract with that kind of language in it. Not only does it marry him to the job, it undercuts any leverage he'd ever have to Sexton his way to a raise.
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
13939 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:35 am to
I think the whole "nobody wants to follow Saban" thing is being overblown. The game is fundamentally different today than it was 2-3 years ago. The game is also going to be fundamentally changed next year with new conferences and a 12-team playoff. This means you're not really going to be able to directly compare Saban's successor to Saban because the circumstances around college football are going to be completely different than they were during Saban's tenure.

Note that Nick Saban never won a title in the NIL era.
This post was edited on 1/11/24 at 8:36 am
Posted by footstepsfalco
Member since Sep 2018
1342 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:38 am to
Lanning and the possibility of Schumann makes this defensive minded heart happy. I would feel for Lane a bit..but Lanning is going to be a dude here.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
20421 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:39 am to
Like I said last night, I’m hearing Lanning and nothing has changed as of this morning.
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