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re: New Head Coach Thread (Welcome Coach DeBoer)

Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:58 am to
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
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Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:58 am to
JMO If Lanning doesn't want the job then quickly get Lane and his baggage. Hopefully he will show more maturity as he moves along in the job. If not, then be prepared for the next coach.

I think this he had a plan in place is overplayed. You can't go out and recruit kids to sign a month ago knowing you're out the door before the ink is dry.

Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:58 am to
quote:

On the one hand, I'm sure people said the same about Saban when LSU hired him. I mean he's from West Virginia and spent his whole career up North or in the NFL to that point. How's he going to relate to Southern kids?



Rhetorical Question….

How much is that a thing nowadays with it being more a global/national sport than ever before?

On the other hand, Saban was a big part of selling the program. Cali kids were coming to Bama in droves.

The North/South stigma wasn’t there. Will it be now?
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16665 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:59 am to
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I dont think this is as big of a deal as its being made out to be. Nate Oats did just fine here. Deboer is 47 hes a damn good coach. He would be just fine at Bama.


Nate Oats doesn't coach football. You cannot compare the two sports and the cultural significance of them to this state and fanbase. I don't think it's about recruiting. I think it's about how well someone can handle the pressure cooker that is a true big-time job. That's not Washington football and it's not Alabama basketball.
This post was edited on 1/11/24 at 8:04 am
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20027 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:59 am to
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Hiring someone who would try to be Saban might be the single biggest mistake we could make


Yeah especially when college football isn't even college football anymore.

If Sark isn't it
If Lanning isn't it

It has to be Kiffin.

I don't even what to think of a Dabo, DeBoar, etc
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51387 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:59 am to
Just saw a video of Saban arriving at the football building this morning. Wonder if they’re going to do any sort of press conference?
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
17447 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:01 am to
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Hiring someone who would try to be Saban might be the single biggest mistake we could make


Agree to disagree
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
5775 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:03 am to
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don't even what to think of a Dabo, DeBoar, etc


If it’s DeBoar or Norvell I will have a full melt. It’s too obvious that both would fail here. D because he’s not a fit and Norvell because he’s overrated. That dudes an average coach at best.
Posted by JIB
Member since Sep 2013
2573 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:04 am to
It's Lanning or Lane. It won't go past Lane. I don't think there's a plan C. Lanning may not think he's ready yet, which I understand. Lane would see a call from a 205 area code and scream "Yes" as he answered.
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:05 am to
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Would Greg Byrne go after someone known for offense or defense?

IMO he would go after someone versed in player recruiting and development, who can handle the unique rigors and extreme pressure of being a multi-million dollar coach in this league. Offensive and defensive adaptability is what makes Saban special.

And I don't think a program with one of the highest operating budgets in the nation and a 72-year-old head coach goes into this process without at least some sort of plan.

Or at least I hope they don't.

Posted by biggsc
Member since Mar 2009
34777 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:06 am to
Would Byrne hire Lane after a few years ago Coach Saban fired him the week before the CFP Title Game for off the field stuff
This post was edited on 1/11/24 at 8:10 am
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
17447 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:08 am to
Video of Saban arriving to the Mal Moore facility this morning: Twitter Video
Posted by AbSnopes
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2020
1143 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:08 am to
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Please point me to the examples of maturity


Kiffin got custody of his children, and the children love being in Oxford, daughter at Ole Miss.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16665 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:10 am to
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Would Byrne hired Lane after a few years ago Coach Saban fired him the week before the CFP Title Game for off the field stuff


It's been 8 years and Kiffin has proven himself to be a pretty damn good HC since he left UA. He definitely learned plenty from Saban that he has implemented. But at the end of the day he's always going to be who he is, and that's not Nick Saban. Some fans won't like that and I get it.
Posted by Crimson_Blinders
Member since Dec 2016
493 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:10 am to
I imagine he is there for a press conference or to facilitate his replacement. Or maybe both.
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22582 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:10 am to
quote:

Would Byrne hired Lane after a few years ago Coach Saban fired him the week before the CFP Title Game for off the field stuff


Would depend on Saban’s true thoughts on Lane. Byrne would obviously get Saban’s opinion on that.
Posted by hwyman108
Member since Nov 2016
2377 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:10 am to
Idk. But Lanning must have some kinda stealth technology or having a clandestine meeting with Byrne in the Ozark mountains. Nobody seems to know where the hell he is now
Posted by Kerrygold
Virginia
Member since Dec 2018
788 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:10 am to
lol
Posted by paperwasp
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Member since Sep 2014
29451 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:10 am to
quote:

Video of Saban arriving

Cedric right there until the very end.

Posted by Carlton
Forced LANKing made the GOAT Retire
Member since Feb 2016
14761 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:11 am to
While I have no idea whether Lanning is here, there or anywhere, I do know that Oregon has lost two coaches recently and both times Oregon message boards were in deep denial and claiming coaches were staying. Lanning may well stay at Oregon, but their message boards have proven they generally have no clue.
This post was edited on 1/11/24 at 8:12 am
Posted by Crimson_Chaos
Alabama
Member since Oct 2023
1488 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:11 am to
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And I don't think a program with one of the highest operating budgets in the nation and a 72-year-old head coach goes into this process without at least some sort of plan.


I agree. I do think that speculation of a full plan being laid out is excessive. However Saban cares about UA, and more importantly he cares about his player. I don't think he would want to jeopardize their development. He is 100% going to be involved in these decisions, and I wouldn't be surprised if he opened his door to all the players for individual meetings. Just because Saban is leaving, the talent, culture, and development opportunity don't have to leave with him. If he assures the players that they have a quality team, and will hire a quality coaching staff to turn the reins over to... I don't think it's a hard sell. The names being pursued are all elite in their own right. GOATs? No. But the best out there for sure.
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