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Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:16 pm to Chad4Bama
Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:16 pm to Chad4Bama
As I expected. I figured 1-2 more receivers and linebackers. JoJo and Bell probably next. Still waiting on linebackers to announce. I didn't expect to lose Cohen and Kight, maybe one but not both.
Needless to say, we aren't done.
I figured on numerous transfers and 4-6 sit out the bowl game. Going to be alot of inexperience on the field.
Needless to say, we aren't done.
I figured on numerous transfers and 4-6 sit out the bowl game. Going to be alot of inexperience on the field.
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Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:33 pm to DT55Forever1
If Saban gets 2 new coordinators and we have a major turnover with players and start a new QB next year, its gonna be like he is starting almost a new team.....Coaching is gonna to be very important. We are going to be young. We thought we were rebooting this year, 2023 will be a wild ride.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 12:00 am to Panthers4life
How can anyone manage this? Let alone a 71 year old with 2 coordinators hopefully out the door?
Posted on 12/6/22 at 12:34 am to WW
As someone who longs for the days of old time football, I absolutely despise the way the transfer portal is set up. It and NIL will be the destruction of college football.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 1:22 am to BCBAMA
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As someone who longs for the days of old time football, I absolutely despise the way the transfer portal is set up. It and NIL will be the destruction of college footbal
You’ll love it by the time spring football starts. We will land studs in the portal this year. Saban played by gentleman rules last year. The gloves are off this year.
Most of the guys currently in the portal were processed.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 5:33 am to jryanw
What makes you say that? I haven’t seen anything that would lead me to believe that.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 6:03 am to Shocco
What this season has shown is that team building will shift its focus from recruiting classes to transfer classes.
Take A&M and USC. A&M put its resources behind a top high school class. USC put theirs behind a top transfer class. They brought in 19 transfers for this season and it lead to immediate success. I'd rather bring in 19 guys that can contribute and help me win immediately than 25 high schoolers where 4-8 make it on the field and over half transfer out due to playing time issues. Also, you're more apt to keep the transfer guys because they can't transfer again without having to sit out I believe.
It's all about allocation of resources and we are starting to see a shift. We will need a lot of talented people dealing with this portal situation or we will fall behind quickly. It needs to be balanced. We have a certain amount of money to use to get players and need to use it in both high schoolers and transfers.
Take A&M and USC. A&M put its resources behind a top high school class. USC put theirs behind a top transfer class. They brought in 19 transfers for this season and it lead to immediate success. I'd rather bring in 19 guys that can contribute and help me win immediately than 25 high schoolers where 4-8 make it on the field and over half transfer out due to playing time issues. Also, you're more apt to keep the transfer guys because they can't transfer again without having to sit out I believe.
It's all about allocation of resources and we are starting to see a shift. We will need a lot of talented people dealing with this portal situation or we will fall behind quickly. It needs to be balanced. We have a certain amount of money to use to get players and need to use it in both high schoolers and transfers.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 6:23 am
Posted on 12/6/22 at 6:22 am to DT55Forever1
But playing the "devil's advocate" couldn't one say that the success of USC came from a better offense and a weaker conference?
Posted on 12/6/22 at 6:35 am to Pastor Mike
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weaker conference
This
Posted on 12/6/22 at 6:35 am to MagillaGuerilla
That could explain some of it, you're right. Between NIL, and the elimination of having to sit out a year for transfers, roster management has totally changed. How do you keep quality depth from evaporating when they see they're not likely starters, and could make more NIL money elsewhere. Maybe that explains the alleged desire by Saban to want our NIL money to be spread more across the entire team.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:10 am to Pastor Mike
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But playing the "devil's advocate" couldn't one say that the success of USC came from a better offense and a weaker conference?
That's part of it, but they did have success and a better offense because they built their "class" around two transfer players. They brought in a top QB and receiver and added around that. A receiver that worked out all summer with Bryce and we still didn't pull. Maybe we should have put more into transfer guys. They most likely could have never had the success they did solely off high schoolers.
Regardless of your conference, your players are more likely to contribute early and stay with you if they are transfer guys as opposed to high school recruits. Now obviously there are exceptions as we saw with Harrell but his was an injury situation and guys still have to perform.
And let's be honest, everyone outside of the Ivy league is buying players. We just have to balance where we spend it. I'd lean toward transfer players until they change the rules.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 7:12 am
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:18 am to DT55Forever1
Knight hasn't done anything since he has been here and he has been here for 4 years. Cohen was already on the verge of losing his starting spot to a true freshmen.
Alabama's 2020 and 2021 receiver class had been major flops. Same with the OL classes.
Alabama's 2020 and 2021 receiver class had been major flops. Same with the OL classes.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:30 am to Pastor Mike
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But playing the "devil's advocate" couldn't one say that the success of USC came from a better offense and a weaker conference?
Winner. Winner. Chicken dinner.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:35 am to SemperFiDawg
Pretty sure we saw the benefit of the transfer portal last season (Williams) and what happens when it doesn't work out as well (Burton and Harrell). It's obviously a huge benefit if used correctly.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 7:55 am
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:55 am to DT55Forever1
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What this season has shown is that team building will shift its focus from recruiting classes to transfer classes
Sort of hard to talk about “the process” when you’re bringing in transfers.
LSU and USC had no other choice. But I can see this exploding on teams that rely too much on the portal.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:57 am to DT55Forever1
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What this season has shown is that team building will shift its focus from recruiting classes to transfer classes.
Take A&M and USC. A&M put its resources behind a top high school class. USC put theirs behind a top transfer class. They brought in 19 transfers for this season and it lead to immediate success. I'd rather bring in 19 guys that can contribute and help me win immediately than 25 high schoolers where 4-8 make it on the field and over half transfer out due to playing time issues. Also, you're more apt to keep the transfer guys because they can't transfer again without having to sit out I believe.
It's all about allocation of resources and we are starting to see a shift. We will need a lot of talented people dealing with this portal situation or we will fall behind quickly. It needs to be balanced. We have a certain amount of money to use to get players and need to use it in both high schoolers and transfers
USC had to go portal heavy because of a coaching change and the simple fact that their roster talent level wasn't up to par. Aggy flopped because their staff has failed to develop a lot of players so they had to rely on a bunch of freshmen who are only there because they are getting paid. Combine that with Jimbo's track record of being unable to control a locker room and it was a recipe for disaster. We are still in a position where we can focus mostly on prep recruiting and supplement holes in the depth chart with portal guys.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 8:15 am to Robot Santa
Where would we have been the past two seasons without it? We would have had no shot either season without it.
If I can pull in a guy like Addison or Caleb Williams over a high school guy, I'm doing it every time.
Like I said, there has to be a balance, but to think you can ignore the importance of it in this environment, is just naive.
For a hypothetical, Bama has Bryce leaving for the NFL. Let's say we have 2 million in the "fund" for a replacement quarterback. Our options are Eli Holstein or Drake Maye. Who are the majority of people going to spend that 2 million on? Drake with 4000 yards, 35 td and 7 int. or a freshman who's never taken a college snap. If we're honest, we're giving that money to Drake and screw the process.
If I can pull in a guy like Addison or Caleb Williams over a high school guy, I'm doing it every time.
Like I said, there has to be a balance, but to think you can ignore the importance of it in this environment, is just naive.
For a hypothetical, Bama has Bryce leaving for the NFL. Let's say we have 2 million in the "fund" for a replacement quarterback. Our options are Eli Holstein or Drake Maye. Who are the majority of people going to spend that 2 million on? Drake with 4000 yards, 35 td and 7 int. or a freshman who's never taken a college snap. If we're honest, we're giving that money to Drake and screw the process.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 8:29 am
Posted on 12/6/22 at 8:31 am to Tupelo
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could make more NIL money elsewhere.
Guys that have been on the bench are not going to get NIL money like an Addison who transfers. NIL is great but you have to demonstrate you are worth it before hitting the portal
Posted on 12/6/22 at 8:49 am to TideWarrior
They need to eliminate the ability to play instantly and make it a minimum 2 year commitment.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 8:59 am to bogeypro
Watch for Tony Grimes. We recruited him and he just entered the portal. One rumor around campus is UA might be a landing spot. Not sure what our interest level is. OSU and UGA may be a possibility as well.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 9:01 am
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