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Posted on 1/2/24 at 7:49 am to
Posted by bodask42
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2009
2496 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 7:49 am to
Kiffin would tear us apart with Milroe as the qb. He would have so much misdirection and action to the outside, and Milroe would run all over us through the holes created. Then once we brought extra guys in the box Milroe would beat us deep (which is a strength of his). Man I kiss Kiffin/Sark
Posted by UsingUpAllTheLetters
Member since Jul 2004
Member since Aug 2011
9369 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 7:50 am to
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He wouldn’t scare me at all as a passer and he seems to think he’s a drop back passer over a dual threat runner. It’s like he has to fail at passing before he’ll commit to using his legs.
My biggest problem is that he always seems to be looking for the home run ball immediately and can’t throw against shallow zone coverage. If he’s going to be dual threat that’s fine, but that means his arm needs to be a threat in more scenarios than it currently is. We’re going to have quick receivers next year, and if the first pass against Wisconsin isn’t a fricking slant I will lose my shite.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22394 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 7:54 am to
People kept saying Milroe turned a corner and I guess he did in some ways compared to the Texas game & 2022, but it was never like he became Deshaun Watson or Vince Young in the second half of the year.

The whole “who’s laughing now?” commentary was poor form.
This post was edited on 1/2/24 at 7:56 am
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
15440 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 7:56 am to
Maybe. Probably not.

Look, it’s pretty simple. If the coaches think our best option in a win or go home play from the 4 yard line is a QB run, we have serious limitations at the position from a passing standpoint. That’s it.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
13025 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 7:58 am to
Without a doubt. You don't want a true freshmen to start. Simpson couldn't beat out Milroe this year. Maybe one of the freshmen QB from the 23 class might have a chance, maybe.
Posted by Kashmir
Member since Dec 2014
9679 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:04 am to
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It’s like he has to fail at passing before he’ll commit to using his legs.



Rees must think the same thing because he’s calling the plays.
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
5687 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:08 am to
quote:

The games in which we struggled was due to pressure coming from the middle. Texas and Michigan.



Those were the games we lost. We struggled in almost every game.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16405 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:09 am to
He will start as the starter. Very little question. If he remains the starter will depend on many factors - his improvement or lack thereof and the improvement or lack thereof from the rest of the QB room.

FWIW, we don't have a QB on this roster that would have been successful yesterday with the way Michigan was eating our lunch up front.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22394 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:11 am to
Part of the reason they were eating our lunch is they had no respect for Milroe. They knew that if they applied pressure and forced him to make quick decisions, he wouldn’t be effective.
Posted by TroyTider
Florida Panhandle
Member since Oct 2009
3998 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:12 am to
They seem to hold back on JM runs early. Maybe it’s the injury factor they consider.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16405 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:13 am to
quote:

They knew that if they applied pressure and forced him to make quick decisions, he wouldn’t be effective.


That's literally every QB at every level of football.
Posted by Crimson K
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2018
7189 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:14 am to
Milroe has almost zero pocket presence. It’s actually pretty wild with the kind of athlete he is. He could absolutely lead a devastating offense in a Malzahn type system, but he thinks he is a pocket passer and that is what our offense needs. We never committed to running him as our offensive identity because it isn’t who we are. All the hopes that he is going to get better” seems a little like a pipe dream. His lack of vision at this stage is kind of alarming.
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
15440 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:15 am to
quote:

That's literally every QB at every level of football.


Well that’s not true. A Tua type passer that excels at the short and intermediate stuff would have eaten this team alive.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16405 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:16 am to
quote:

Well that’s not true. A Tua type passer that excels at the short and intermediate stuff would have eaten this team alive.


Not with these WRs. That's not Jeudy, Waddle, Smith and Ruggs getting easy separation out there.
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
15440 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:19 am to
Tua would have no issues with Bond, Hale, and Law out there
Posted by BamafaninFlorida
North Florida
Member since Nov 2019
422 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:20 am to
I don’t agree seeing him on another team is scary. Not scary at all…that’s the problem.

If he’s the quarterback …then so be it, but I don’t see great things there especially with the offenses we’re facing in 2024 that are going to score, a lot.
This post was edited on 1/2/24 at 8:24 am
Posted by RECConspiracy
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
2241 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:21 am to
McLaughlin is the problem. So tired of this foolishness. We win the game with an adequate snapper.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12922 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:22 am to
quote:

Simpson couldn't beat out Milroe this year.


Who knows and I not saying Simpson could or will stick around, but how many people on this board thought M Jones would stick around and how many thought Jones would end up being the QB he turned out to be?

Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20546 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:33 am to
Yes, he will almost certainly be the starter.

Can he complete a slant consistently? We don’t know, because we have no idea how many times that was the call and we get a poor snap that kills the ability to run it.

Until I watched the Washington/Texas game last night and the ball perfectly snapped, or close enough that the qb never had to field it like a shortstop every other play I didn’t really appreciate how much that helps. I’m probably going to go back and look at the whole game and see how many good snaps we had in the entire game. In OT, which I’ve already looked at the answer is none of the 6 were good. NONE.

While Milroe has his limitations, until that is fixed we truly don’t know what he can be.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22394 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:34 am to
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That's literally every QB at every level of football.


The difference is how they handle the pressure. There are a lot of QBs that can process quickly and get the ball out. Milroe isn’t one of them. On top of that, he’s got extremely poor instincts.
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