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Carolina Tide
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re: George Washington, Ulysses S. Grant, Francis Scott Key....
Aww need a safe space snowflake?

Facts don’t care about your feelings.


Cobrasize
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I don’t see anyone burning books, do you?


Not yet, but it’s coming


Carolina Tide
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re: George Washington, Ulysses S. Grant, Francis Scott Key....
Then it looks like I bought my kindle just in time.


Bobby OG Johnson
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I don’t see anyone burning books, do you?



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NPR
@NPR
In essence, "decolonizing your bookshelf" is about actively resisting and casting aside the colonialist ideas of narrative, storytelling, and literature that have pervaded the American psyche for so long, says
@itsjuanlove
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They are just renaming it.


Cobrasize
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re: George Washington, Ulysses S. Grant, Francis Scott Key....
Yea, because amazon won’t ever restrict things.


Carolina Tide
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re: George Washington, Ulysses S. Grant, Francis Scott Key....
I can literally buy one of the most violently racist books for $10 on kindle (or $300 on paperback) so it’s doubtful.


Cobrasize
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re: George Washington, Ulysses S. Grant, Francis Scott Key....
Doubtful doesn’t mean impossible


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Carolina Tide
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Atlanta
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re: George Washington, Ulysses S. Grant, Francis Scott Key....
You choosing not to buy and read these books doesn’t mean a nationwide ban is coming.


Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
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“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”
? George Orwell




bamatide07
Member since Jan 2019
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re: George Washington, Ulysses S. Grant, Francis Scott Key....
Antifa is already burning books Nazi style over in Paris. There was an article the other day. Of course the mainstream media never touched on it because they're complicit in the hatred and propaganda.


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14&Counting
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re: George Washington, Ulysses S. Grant, Francis Scott Key....
It’s impossible to judge men of the 19th century by 21st century progressive standards. No one is going to measure up and to throw out and trash their legacies is intellectual dishonesty.

But.......This isn’t about a balanced analysis this is cultural revolution and a setting of the clock to Year 0.
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Teague
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re: George Washington, Ulysses S. Grant, Francis Scott Key....
I love hyperbole too.


Bobby OG Johnson
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The New York Times
@nytimes
Theodore Roosevelt's statue will be removed from the Museum of Natural History in New York City. The memorial has long prompted objections as a symbol of colonialism.


Cobrasize
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Birmingham
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That’s great!! We should also get rid of the National Forests and Parks that he designated. There’s some prime real estate that could be turned into neighborhoods


OldPete
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Where does this shite end?! As a History PhD I don’t even know what to do at this point....

So anyone who ever owned a slave, in a time period where it was a social norm, statue is coming down? Regardless of anything else?


It goes beyond that, dude. They get a pass on some statues and now it’s open season on all statues...of any historical figure. They defaced two statues of abolitionists, John Greenleaf Whittier and Matthias Baldwin...

Baldwin was a Quaker...here’s what the Philadelphia Inquirer wrote about him:

Baldwin, who created one of the largest a locomotive manufacturing firms of his time, was an outspoken critic against slavery during the early 1800s, arguing for the right of African Americans to vote and founding a school in the city for black children.

Also heard that protesters in England went after a statue of Winston Churchill...if it weren’t for him those protesters might be speaking German...

Whose statue is next? Mother Teresa?
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TidenUP
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re: George Washington, Ulysses S. Grant, Francis Scott Key....
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Theodore Roosevelt's statue will be removed from the Museum of Natural History in New York


Remember when people were saying to put the Confederate statues in a museum if you want to go see them? Apparently museums are not good enough now...


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SummerOfGeorge
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re: George Washington, Ulysses S. Grant, Francis Scott Key....
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Remember when people were saying to put the Confederate statues in a museum if you want to go see them? Apparently museums are not good enough now...



The Roosevelt statue is outside the museum - it's on the side of the steps up to the museum. So it's more of a statue than a piece in the museum.

Image: https://ei.marketwatch.com/Multimedia/2020/06/21/Photos/ZQ/MW-II984_tr0621_20200621194648_ZQ.jpg?uuid=78cb10b0-b419-11ea-a4e3-9c8e992d421e


Not agreeing it should come down just adding context


TidenUP
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re: George Washington, Ulysses S. Grant, Francis Scott Key....
Noted


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FWBFLlaw
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re: George Washington, Ulysses S. Grant, Francis Scott Key....
No, but there is a petition to remove a Gandhi statute in England. If we look hard enough, we will find faults in all historic and present day figures. We are human. We live in a fallen world.

There was only one person who lived a faultless life. Who knew no sin. Yet, I don’t see many people clamoring to have His statute put up in the center of town.

I am all for taking down the Confederate statutes and putting them in museums or historical sites. But what will it accomplish? It won’t change our history. Maybe, we should just start looking at what makes us the same. Looking for things we have in common and go from there. Instead of trying to separate ourselves, let’s celebrate our commonalities and try to learn from each other. Respect each other’s history and strive to make this world a little bit better.


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