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re: Don’t Look Now....

Posted on 1/9/20 at 8:43 pm to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 8:43 pm to
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My hope is that Young justifies the hype right away but I wouldn't really be upset if Mac holds it down for a while.


Amen, pretty much my thoughts as well. If Bryce is the starter he will have earned it.

It's much better than the 2016 situation
This post was edited on 1/9/20 at 8:44 pm
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14001 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 8:56 pm to
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I don't think Mac is the Messiah or anything I'm just not sure how anyone could come away from his 2019 and think that he's "not good". And I just don't get the Taulia stuff.



He is indeed "good" and if I recall correctly, he threw some tua like, "in stride" passes against a Michigan defense that knew exactly what they were getting. There weren't any surprises with mac.

I could check but I think he completed maybe 16 or 17 of 25 passes and if I recall, it would've been closer to 19 of 25, if not for some pretty well placed dropped balls.

The other tatonka's not taking the job from him and for young to get it, well he'd better be beyond exceptional. Because right now, Mac Jones is a really good quarterback. He looked like a veteran against Michigan.

And one final thing. Is there anyone who would take any other quarterback in this conference over mac jones?

I wouldn't.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14001 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:00 pm to
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Mac steps up in the pocket and will hang in and take a massive hit and still throw a completion



Mac Jones is coachable. He knows how and when to get rid of a frickin' football. What a refreshing concept.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14001 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:08 pm to
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He's an adequate college QB, probably on the level of McCarron


AJ McCarron was a Heisman runner up, played in a much different offensive scheme and was coached to be a caretaker of the ball.

The decision making of a 2012 AJ McCarron, with 2019 skill players and a Steve Sarkisian offense, carves 2019 lsu to pieces.

I don't know about you but I would've much preferred AJ's "adequateness" against lsu this year than tua's redzone turnover.

With this offense and skill players, if Mac's another AJ, then that's a gift.
This post was edited on 1/9/20 at 9:11 pm
Posted by justausedcarguy
Member since Aug 2014
5642 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:13 pm to
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My sincere hope for Kirby and UGA is a 2-3 loss regular season in 2020 which sends Merlins and Go Gator to Atlanta, followed by a down-ish year in recruiting (like the #12 class or something), and then another 2-3 loss season in 2021 where they don't make it to Atlanta again and reel in the #14 recruiting class, then an 8-4 season capped off by an inexplicable loss to FCS caliber Georgia Tech and another not top 10 recruiting class. Then halfway through the 2023 season they realize they haven't been nationally relevant since losing the 2018 SECCG, the talent level of the roster isn't bad by any means but is noticeably lower than it was from 2017-2021, and Kirby is in fact nothing more than a scumbag version of Mark Richt. Oh the schadenfreude I would feel.


Wow, you’ve really thought this through....... Respect
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:13 pm to
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The decision making of a 2012 AJ McCarron, with 2019 skill players and a Steve Sarkisian offense, carves 2019 lsu to pieces.


That's absolutely true
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20759 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:27 pm to
The downside to Mac is his athleticism. He makes Coker look like Johnny Manziel. In 2020, it’s really hard to invision an offense where the QB is pretty immobile.

As DC’s get more film on him, that could become an issue.
Posted by BamaFan107
Madison
Member since Dec 2019
893 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:30 pm to
The thing about Mac that some people are failing to see is that, each game he seems to get better. He was awful when he came in against Tennessee, compare that to what you seen against Michigan and it’s night and day.

I feel very comfortable with him heading into the offseason, now if Bryce were to beat him out, I would be comfortable with him also.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:35 pm to
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I feel very comfortable with him heading into the offseason, now if Bryce were to beat him out, I would be comfortable with him also.


This is where I land.

I feel pretty comfortable with who Mac is. Because of that, I know that if Bryce Young comes in and beats that guy out.......that means Bryce Young is a frickin dude.
Posted by BamaFan107
Madison
Member since Dec 2019
893 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:43 pm to
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I feel pretty comfortable with who Mac is. Because of that, I know that if Bryce Young comes in and beats that guy out.......that means Bryce Young is a frickin dude.


EXACTLY, SOG!! Whoever ends up becoming the starter will be pushed and that is all we can ask for.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14001 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:55 pm to
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The downside to Mac is his athleticism. He makes Coker look like Johnny Manziel. In 2020, it’s really hard to invision an offense where the QB is pretty immobile.


A pro style passing attack with an accurate quarterback, good deepball and ability to see past his first read can win just as bigly as a dual threat attack. Just because the likes of kirby smart couldn't seal the deal doesn't mean it can't happen.

In fact, tua's athleticism was tamped down this year. I don't know the exact numbers but Alabama didn't rush him much at all. His greatest athletic asset this season was the ability to extend plays and look where that got him. Two orthopedic surgeries, one of which was major and a career cut short.

Alabama makes it's money with pro style passers. Just one national championship came with "athletic" quarterbacks and it took two of them playing in the same game for it to happen. And even then it barely happened.


This post was edited on 1/9/20 at 10:12 pm
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83443 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 11:13 pm to
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I swear, if Jimbo would let Mond run more that offense would be much better. That guy is a dynamic runner
Not only is he a dynamic runner; he has proven that he isn’t going to lead them through the SEC launching dimes all game.

At this point, go all out and let him run like a madman. He’s good enough with his arm to get hot sometimes too. No need to hamper him.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30041 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 1:13 am to
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Doesn't really have the arm strength to make really high level throws.


Tua didn't exactly have a rocket, either. But they both have enough to make all the throws.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44349 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 6:42 am to
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A pro style passing attack with an accurate quarterback, good deepball and ability to see past his first read can win just as bigly as a dual threat attack. Just because the likes of kirby smart couldn't seal the deal doesn't mean it can't happen.


And here we have the first not so subtle suggestion that a dual threat QB is simply too stupid to go through read progressions. That didn't take long.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52656 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 7:11 am to
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The downside to Mac is his athleticism. He makes Coker look like Johnny Manziel.



I think he is plenty ahtletic. He is actually probably on par with Coker.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11454 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 7:20 am to
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And here we have the first not so subtle suggestion that a dual threat QB is simply too stupid to go through read progressions. That didn't take long.


I wouldn’t say stupid but a DT guy’s first instinct when option #1 is covered is usually to take off and bail on the play. That little voice gets even louder if his target 2 is covered. It’s what they are used to: their athleticism gets them out of jams so it becomes the fallback instead of going through all his reads.
Posted by uofarolltide
Member since Sep 2016
1830 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 5:18 pm to
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Taulia was a mid-level 4 star QB, ranked #180 by 247. He hasn't done anything spectacular in the games he has been. If his name was Sammy Stewart he would just be another QB on the roster

What I don’t get is why this discredits Taulia. Because Tua is his brother, that means he sucks?
He was a much higher rated recruit than 3-star Mac Jones, he’s highly mobile, great at throwing on the run, and has a similarly sharp delivery as Tua - especially throwing slants.

He didn’t do anything spectacular against Arkansas because he wasn’t asked to. It was absolute garbage time. However, he did drive the offense down the field, and made some nice plays improvising using his mobility.
He clearly has an arm.

In the A-Day game (the only time we really saw him), he made the best throw of the game, scrambling, rifling the ball 30 yards downfield, hitting Waddle perfectly in stride in the endzone. That’s a throw Mac Jones doesn’t have in his arsenal.

Again, we don’t know much about Taulia, but I’ve seen enough with his arm talent and mobility, knowing that he was intensely studying the offense under Tua all season, that he has, in my opinion, as much of a shot as Mac Jones at winning the job.

Again, my money is on Bryce Young, but I think Taulia is gonna surprise some people.
Posted by Wroll Tyde
Hoover, Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
105 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 6:01 pm to
Mac Jones made some pinpoint passes with pass rushers in his face and proved he can hit the deep ball, too.

We can win with Mac Jones.
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 6:02 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 6:05 pm to
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What I don’t get is why this discredits Taulia. Because Tua is his brother, that means he sucks?
He was a much higher rated recruit than 3-star Mac Jones, he’s highly mobile, great at throwing on the run, and has a similarly sharp delivery as Tua - especially throwing slants.


It doesn't discredit him, it just means that he is another "good" QB who might can play, but people talk about him as if he's a can't miss guy who has to get on the field regardless of if the QB playing is playing well or not. He's not Tua or Bryce Young.

Mac is only discussed in positive terms because of how he played in games. Personally, I thought Mac was going to be average or worse. I did not think he'd be very good and was not confident in him at all. His play on the field is what changed my mind.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 6:31 pm to
Having 3 legit candidates (Mac, Taulia and Bryce competing for the staring QB job is an enviable position to be in. The conpetition should help push them all to get better. I'm content to watch and see how it plays out. I dont feel any desire to predict the outcome or pick a #TeamMac #TeamLia or #TeamBryce favorite.
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 6:35 pm
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