re: Deboer is In over his head.

One answer to a question at the post game and I’m abbreviating: was asked what do you tell these players who aren’t use to losing two games this early in the season? He says he’s not good at giving speeches and tells them to take care of it themselves and pick each other up. This dude ain’t it. At all. He’s lost.

In today's game (NIL) the players have more influence. DeBoer will not win consistently as long as the players are running the team. He needs to make a tough decision and bench Milroe. It is obvious that he cannot run this offense. He also needs to address bad or stupid behavior. Dubose's fault, among other things, was he let the players run the team. He did win an SEC championship doing that, but he had two of the greatest player's ever, Samuelson and Alexander. The following year was a disaster when the offensive line decided to name themselves the "pancake posse." It was all about them and they sucked. Does this look familiar with some of today's players? Where is an Athletic Director that understands football like Mal Moore when we need them? Mal told Shula to get himself some needed help with assistant coaching, but he was hard headed and refused, so he was terminated. Mal also pursued and hired Saban. Mal Moore was a big asset to Alabama football. We need people like Mal that understand football calling the shots. Teams are probably not going to dominate the future like they did in the past.

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The defense gave the offense four turnovers and Milroe did frick all with it.

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Nothing more depressing than... Getting the momentum/high of an interception and long return into FG range.. and we end up punting

I’m ready to move on from the saban upperclassmen. They’ve been undisciplined as shot through two coaching staffs, aren’t very good, and key positions just don’t fit what he wants to do. It might not work out with deboer, but I just want to see his guys run his system and see what happens

I don't think DeBoer is in over his head. I do think he probably didn't REALLY know what he was getting into, because you can't until you're there.

He simply had the misfortune to take a job at the flagship program in the sport, with an unrealistic fan base that consistently overrates the roster's talent because somebody trying to get their clicks has attached a mythical star rating to them, and which I don't think is so much spoiled after going through close to two decades of arguably the greatest run in the sport's history, but has convinced itself that because we're Alabama, we are immune from all the forces going on right now that have changed this sport forevermore.

Nick Saban wouldn't be doing any better with this roster right now. I don't think a lot of y'all understood the magic he worked with this team last year, and I absolutely think he saw this coming and got out of Dodge because he's 70-plus frickin' years old and decided he didn't need this.

The basic problem is DeBoer's stuff centers around having a first-rate QB, and I don't think that QB has to be Penix level but I think he's got to be better than Jalen Milroe ... I think Milroe would probably be No. 999,999 on the list of the top 10 quarterbacks DeBoer would pick to run his offense ... but DeBoer has seen the other alternatives take reps and believes he ain't got anybody any better on that bench than Milroe in the here and now of 2024.

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It’s unfair to judge this coach when he had half a year and inherited a toxic culture like LANK.

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He brought Courtney Morgan with him. After working for DeBoer for two and a half seasons, Morgan felt comfortable enough to walk into the stadium smoking a fricking cigar.

Chapman and Morgan did that because they have zero respect. Chapman sure as hell never did that when he worked for Saban.

If DeBoer is a coach worthy of respect, it should take him about sixty seconds to fix that.

Players don't respect him. Coaches don't respect him. Oh sure, they would tell you that they do. But they don't, because they don't fear him.

What's he supposed to say? "Yea, this team is complete arse and we suck. It's full of nothing but entitled, spoiled little shits that don't listen". He's not an arse chewer like Saban was. He's not going to make press conference sound bites to talk to the team. He's a constructive criticism type of guy. More of a "I'm not mad at you, I'm just disappointed" type guy. All that is ok as long as the team responds to it. The problem is I don't think they are.

He's not getting fired any time soon. This technically isn't his team. He will get a chance to put together the personnel for his scheme before anything like that happens. The bigger problem right now is losing the locker room/team or the recruiting class. There were some visible discontentment on the field with the inaccurate passes last night. How long before WR's get tired of sprinting 15 yards every play to only be 1) not be targeted 2) get thrown an uncatchable ball 3) end up blocking for Milroe? I believe the allure of Bama is still heavy in some recruits minds. I also think it's starting to fade. The UGA win helped a lot with continuing those thoughts but the last 3 weeks have erased that. If I'm a recruit I'm watching Bama closely the remainder of the season.

Milroe should be on a short leash the remainder of the season. #1 rule in football is to take care of the football. He's not doing that. I would make it known that he has been underperforming, especially as of late, and that a change will be made if needed to help put the team in a better position. This would be discussed individually with Milroe then again in the QB meeting so that every QB knows it. Simpson may very well suck worse than Milroe, but if Milroe continues to play like he has Simpson should be given a fair shake at it. Missouri would be a perfect scenario. We have a bye week following that game and if Simpson were to be at the very least "serviceable", it would give us the bye week to really work him with 1's before the next game. Again, he may very well suck too, but at least then we see that the coaching staff is willing/attempting to try different things to get this team going.

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And the entire organization... every player and every coach, at a very fundamental level, doesn't understand their responsibilities or this programs expectations or standards.

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This is fricking dumb. The GOAT is involved on one of these levels… so you say HE doesn’t know the expectations and standards?

May I suggest a self ban? Because you clearly have issues understanding CFB in 2024. Take a lap.

Frickin Vandy is 5-2 and holds the tie breaker over us... enough said. This is not the "New normal" I want to have any part of...

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But my question to these coaches is, what is it about your role as an educator that warrants an eight figure salary? And what are you developing that is so important?

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Your basically questioning the legitimacy of college sports as currently constituted. You might be right. The whole thing might be ridiculous.

So let's say we just dial things back, raise academic standards, stop worrying so much about W's and L's, and just grow up a bit.

Now I'm not sure what the ramifications would be, but I think the University would likely be fiscally destroyed by this. We would become Vanderbilt, but without the academics and with a huge debt load.