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re: Caleb Downs
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:01 pm to scottydoesntknow
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:01 pm to scottydoesntknow
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It dawned on me im recent years that I loved CFB just as much when Bama sucked than I do when Bama wins every game. I wouldnt trade those 17 years for anything
fricking A!!
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:04 pm to OldPete
Yes LsU had a ton of kids and were down to 35 scholarship kids. Played a bowl game with 50 players. This is what CFB is now.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:06 pm to labamafan
Can we use Proctors NIL to retain C Downs?
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:09 pm to footstepsfalco
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Can we use Proctors NIL to retain C Downs?
I think Caleb Downs is gone less because of the money and more because he and his family don't like the DB coach hire tbh. He didn't enter the portal after the DC hire, he entered the portal after the DBC hire.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:09 pm to Diego Ricardo
Makes sense. Prolly didn’t have any relationship with the guy at all
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:14 pm to Robot Santa
Non competes are generally illegal in many states, and many non competes can only extend to book of business (client relationships)
You can’t blackball someone out of a job
You can’t blackball someone out of a job
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:16 pm to Diego Ricardo
Been brewing long before DC/DB hires
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:16 pm to 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:19 pm to UhOhOreo
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Non competes are generally illegal in many states, and many non competes can only extend to book of business (client relationships)
You can’t blackball someone out of a job
The only way to contractually lock-in players to a program will involve classifying them as employees, striking out some kind of anti-trust agreement like the NFL with the federal government (will probably involve unionizing revenue-generating sport athletes), working out something with the DoJ/DoEd to shell game things around so this all doesn't cause Title IX issues, and getting a sport built on petty fiefdoms to all agree to come together and create a unified front to standardize contracts with the player's union.
To amend my post from earlier...not an "easy fix" in practice, just conceptually. Once they're employees instead of amateurs, a whole slew of things become possible that simply are not in the current half-measure, worst-of-all options arrangement.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:46 pm to hnds2th
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I don’t get this narrative. We have the most loyal, obsessive fanbase in America. I grew up in New Orleans, graduated from Alabama, lived in California and now Arizona. Both Southern California and Phoenix have huge alumni groups. We support, financially, scholarships for local kids to go to Alabama, why would we not support athletes?
I mean a lot of schools have this. But some of them have the uber wealthy backing them too. A single billionaire who’s heavily invested in the football program can easily outspend entire alumni groups.
I didn’t mean Alabama’s NIL is poor but there are certain programs we will never be able to outspend. Before we had Saban’s promise of development and success to off set things. Now we don’t
And yeah maybe some of them will stop donating to the teams as much if the results aren’t there but as of right now those schools have insane amounts of NIL offers to throw around
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I’ll also say this, in the end it is just a sport. If the worst thing that happens to you today is for a player to enter the portal, consider yourself blessed and fortunate.
Very true. Plenty of people in the world with worse worries
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:57 pm to Crimson_Chaos
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Like I said, I bought a Downs jersey. My mistake. I can't wear it if he leaves, and I'll be very unlikely to buy one in the future.
Not your fault.. but this is one of the reasons my family tends to purchase them during their senior/junior year.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:15 pm to 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:08 pm to captainFid
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Not your fault.. but this is one of the reasons my family tends to purchase them during their senior/junior year.
I thought about that, and my logic was: "Let me get one that will be relevant for 3 years...


Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:20 pm to bamabenny
Or asking the wrong people
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:22 pm to Diego Ricardo
But he doesn’t have relationship with anyone excep TROB. Who’s his relationship at Ohio Staye?
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:26 pm to Legionfield
Apologies for my earlier outburst everyone. That one hit a nerve.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:28 pm to scottydoesntknow
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It dawned on me im recent years that I loved CFB just as much when Bama sucked than I do when Bama wins every game. I wouldnt trade those 17 years for anything, but CFB is a shell of what it was when I first got hooked in 1996
Dude. I could not agree more!

I will say, ironically, I do worry about my fandom as this sport is about to be players being paid more than coaches... all the behavioral problems this is going to fan the flames to etc... I hope I'm wrong, and I hope college football somehow magically continues to have all the magic it always has. And no doubt, I'll give it a while before I ride off into the sunset....
I used to daydream about being as epic as USC when Carrol was there. Or, of course, be like Bama was under Bear. I love the idea of dynasties. I wanted to be a part of one SO bad. And I got to LIVE that shite.
Now, I'm not so sure we will see dynasties ever again. I don't mean that in a hyperbolic way..
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:35 pm to ETT2001
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But he doesn’t have relationship with anyone excep TROB. Who’s his relationship at Ohio Staye?
It's all about the Benjamins.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:53 pm to CrimsonBoz
Professor Terguson: Good answer. Good answer. I like the way you think. I'm gonna be watching you.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:55 pm to CrimsonBoz
You obviously took that one as personal betrayal. Those are tough.
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