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re: Best D strategy against OK
Posted on 12/10/18 at 6:56 pm to CrimsonTideMD
Posted on 12/10/18 at 6:56 pm to CrimsonTideMD
This is all relative. Time of possession really doesn't matter if you aren't scoring almost every drive, especially against these kind of offenses. Yes if we are taking two minutes per score our defense will get tired, but the reality is we will have a variety of drive lengths, the important thing so scoring tds every drive and forcing OU to match us drive for drive.
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 7:21 pm to Tider95
Texas kinda held them down in the CG. I know damn well we can. They ended up with 39 but couple scores came late . We got this shite
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:00 pm to Panthers4life
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and leave one to spy Murrary.
Just my opinion, but a spy on Murray is a wasted player 90% of the time just like it is on Jalen. He’s as fast as any skill player we have on defense and he’ll leave 30 and 32 in his dust.
Our first priority, as always with Saban, will be stopping the traditional run game. From there I would bet on lots of twists up front with outside contain, and quite a few delayed blitzes on passing downs.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 10:50 pm to CrimsonTideMD
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Disagree.
The longer your offense holds the ball, the more your defense rests. Getting the big boys up front rest usually allows them to hold the line and pressure the QB more effectively.
I believe you got what I said backwards. I said scoring quickly has no advantages beyond the previous point I made.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:06 am to prevatt33
I meant to include this quote first
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In reality, time of possession means almost nothing anymore in modern CFB.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:37 am to prevatt33
So basically we need to create a couple turnovers and score points off those turnovers.
You know, thinking on it...I'm surprised Bama beat UGA considering they gave UGA the ball twice on turnovers.
You know, thinking on it...I'm surprised Bama beat UGA considering they gave UGA the ball twice on turnovers.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:09 am to ChoadieMcSmalls
It's all about the fact the defense didn't give up a point on the last several possessions of that game. Georgia scored on us, but they couldn't do it consistently even while they were beating up on us and it cost them.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:29 am to Tider95
Exactly.
We will get scored on but I believe our defense can get stops where I don’t believe OU can. We may punt only 1 time while I think we can get them to 3 or 4.
We will get scored on but I believe our defense can get stops where I don’t believe OU can. We may punt only 1 time while I think we can get them to 3 or 4.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:45 am to CrimsonBoz
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We will get scored on but I believe our defense can get stops where I don’t believe OU can. We may punt only 1 time while I think we can get them to 3 or 4.
This is what makes me nervous about this game. There is a razor-thin margin of error for us. If we give up a turnover or two and have a few offensive drives stall, we're dead in the water, we're talking losing by four or five touchdowns.
Oklahoma can score fast and has been in shootouts all year long; we'd be playing their game. That said, this will be the first time all year that they've faced a defense with a pulse and a team where all of the talent isn't on the offensive side of the ball.
It was said before but generating turnovers is the key to the game for us; we just need to limit the number of opportunities they have in the game.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 10:46 am
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:03 am to RolltidePA
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This is what makes me nervous about this game. There is a razor-thin margin of error for us. If we give up a turnover or two and have a few offensive drives stall, we're dead in the water, we're talking losing by four or five touchdowns.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:40 am to Funky Tide 8
Dude relax . They are a good team, but so are we. It’s not like they are going to score EVERY possession . We will get some stops too. 
Posted on 12/11/18 at 12:23 pm to Bear88
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Dude relax . They are a good team, but so are we. It’s not like they are going to score EVERY possession . We will get some stops too.
I totally gave a hot take, but if the team that showed up the first half of the Georgia game as opposed to the team that showed up the rest of the season it'll be a long day. You give away possessions to them and bad shite happens.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 12:38 pm to RolltidePA
Oh I agree with your take, I just don’t see us losing by 4or 5 TDS no matter what
Posted on 12/11/18 at 1:08 pm to RolltidePA
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It was said before but generating turnovers is the key to the game for us
Keys to a Bama Victory, in no particular order:
Winning the turnover margin
Affecting the QB (Laying the wood to Murray early on and keeping pressure on him)
Taking what their Defense gives us
Protecting Tua
Defense getting off the field on 3rd downs
Posted on 12/11/18 at 1:47 pm to CrimsonTideMD
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Best D strategy against OK
Tackle
Posted on 12/11/18 at 1:56 pm to CrimsonTideMD
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The longer your offense holds the ball, the more your defense rests.
This means nothing if you hold the ball a bit but don't score, like many run-based offenses. Ergo, it's quite common in modern football for the lesser team to win time of possession and get smoked on the scoreboard.
Time of possession means nothing in modern CFB as a metric to determine the likelihood of winning. Saban has said exactly this multiple times.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 12/11/18 at 1:58 pm to tideohio
I’d run a lot of 3-2-6 and bring 4. Mix up where that 4th guy comes from. Don’t stunt unless you have someone spying the QB. Pressure up the middle will force any QB into bad mistakes though, even the fast ones. If Q has a game like he did against LSU for example then OU will be lucky to score twice.
We’ll see how they respond, but it can be overwhelming when you’re playing against the best opposition you’ve seen in your life. Our defense has practiced against Tua and Jalen for two years now, an accurate QB and a fast QB won’t be anything new.
KM is an accurate passer, but it remains to be seen if he can make a quick decision and an accurate pass under pressure on a consistent basis. I won’t be surprised if we test him early with heavy pressure, knowing our offense should be able to score at will
We’ll see how they respond, but it can be overwhelming when you’re playing against the best opposition you’ve seen in your life. Our defense has practiced against Tua and Jalen for two years now, an accurate QB and a fast QB won’t be anything new.
KM is an accurate passer, but it remains to be seen if he can make a quick decision and an accurate pass under pressure on a consistent basis. I won’t be surprised if we test him early with heavy pressure, knowing our offense should be able to score at will
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 12/11/18 at 2:06 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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KM is an accurate passer, but it remains to be seen if he can make a quick decision and an accurate pass under pressure on a consistent basis
Thus is what I said in my original post. I am very interested to see if he can. Got to be good tacklers in the secondary but make him throw it quick for short gains . If we give a big cushion like we did against UGA , we could be in trouble . I am not really concerned with our offense and how we attack as I think we will be fine there . The defensive game plan intrigues me for this game
Posted on 12/11/18 at 2:18 pm to tideohio
Be sound defensively. Send pressures with twists up front, overloading one side then coming from the opposite, cover 2 pattern match, show 2 but then sink a safety much like UGA did with Cover 3, zone blitz. You have to make him uncomfortable. Make them punt 4-5 times and I believe we win going away.
Limiting possessions with a good, balanced offense will keep his little arse on the bench as well. They are putrid in pass defense and middle of the pack against the run. I think the run numbers may be a bit deceiving since the BIG 12 relies on the passing game and bails on a true run game too early.
Limiting possessions with a good, balanced offense will keep his little arse on the bench as well. They are putrid in pass defense and middle of the pack against the run. I think the run numbers may be a bit deceiving since the BIG 12 relies on the passing game and bails on a true run game too early.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 2:28 pm to UAgrad93
Didn’t want to get too technical for some who maybe don’t enjoy that but I agree with you on the zone blitz / fires. Got to confuse him. And for gods sake.....pick up the back out of the backfield
but I agree with you on the zone blitz / fires. Got to confuse him. And for gods sake.....pick up the back out of the backfield 
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