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re: "All Lives Can't Matter Until Black Lives Matter" - UA Football Video

Posted on 6/25/20 at 7:57 pm to
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 7:57 pm to
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We're fricked.....Kick off against USC is almost 2 months out


I agree. Covid is exploding and there’s no way we’ll have a full season. We’ll be lucky to have conference games.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15169 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 8:13 pm to
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However, no one seems to protest about black lives mattering until it involves the police or a white person committing the murder.


I don't see you saying All Lives Matter when white on white crime happens so what is your point?

In fact I don't see anyone bring up white on white crime when discussing the shortcomings of other minority communities, yet that seems to be the go to for people who want to disenfranchise and ignore a real problem.

What's real to me is the reality that the only reason many here even care about any of these recruits is the fact the kid could help the team win football games. If the same kid wasn't a recruit, they wouldn't give a shite if he was ran down by some bumpkins a shot dead for jogging in Georgia.

This shite is sad. I really don't understand why man is so inheriting wicked to itself and its own brother.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 8:17 pm to
Humans suck. That’s why I don’t trust them and I spend most of my spare time with animals or learning about animals
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17840 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 8:18 pm to
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that number, that we know of, 28 were committed by the police against unarmed civilians

Didn't know folks who actively believe in the 2nd amendment are magically seen as justified homicides.
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48 police officers were killed in felonious acts last year.

And magically this stat doesn't account for just guns. If I ran one over with my car, still felonious. Beat one to death with my bare hands, still felonious.

Cherry picked stats are cherry picked stats. Lies, damn lies, and statistics.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15169 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 8:23 pm to
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Humans suck. That’s why I don’t trust them and I spend most of my spare time with animals or learning about animals


Dude I don't get it. I know I can be aggressive but that is my former years of football coming out of me.

As a person, I don't hate people.. even people who hate me for no reason.

At times it mystifies me how relentless and unyielding some people have become over something no one has a choice in determining.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 8:27 pm to
I’m white and I’m a minority where I live. I’m fine with it. I mind my business and my neighbors all mind theirs. It’s a wonderful relationship that we all have I live in Center Point, Alabama. It can be a rough place, but I like it here and I like the type of neighbors I have.

We all just want to live in peace and do our things.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 8:32 pm to
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Not true. I have marched to in peaceful demonstrations to stop black-on-black violence, gone back to my neighborhood and rehabbed homes, worked outreach with convicted felons, volunteered at the county jail, mentored youth, and taught GED classes at a women's shelter. The majority of African Americans are tired of this shite. The ceasing of the misery and degradation in our communities begins at home. The reason that media does not publicize it, is because this side of African American culture is not seen as sexy. Unless we're burning Rap Albums or R Kelly music, rioting, or having an idiotic funeral for the N-word, the ratings are not there.


That's awesome cal

Stick around here more, man. Post more. Your stuff the last week or so has been very good.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 8:32 pm to
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I’m white and I’m a minority where I live. I’m fine with it. I mind my business and my neighbors all mind theirs. It’s a wonderful relationship that we all have I live in Center Point, Alabama. It can be a rough place, but I like it here and I like the type of neighbors I have.

We all just want to live in peace and do our things


Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 8:33 pm to
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Humans suck. That’s why I don’t trust them and I spend most of my spare time with animals or learning about animals




It's a fallen world and it always will be. We can only do our best as individuals.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 8:34 pm to
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This is the kind of stuff I would love to see more of. You're right that I never hear about this happening.


It's disgraceful but as cal said, it's not a sexy story. The media in this country, across the spectrum, is just an absolute fvckin disgrace.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 8:34 pm to
It’s sad because I don’t believe that’s how things were supposed to be. It’s amazing how jaded you become when you get older.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 8:37 pm to
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It's disgraceful but as cal said, it's not a sexy story. The media in this country, across the spectrum, is just an absolute fvckin disgrace.


What Cal is doing is heroic, in my opinion. Imagine if Sharpton or Jackson would use their platform to promote people like Cal and others, instead of chasing cameras and capitalizing on division.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75823 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 8:38 pm to
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I don't see you saying All Lives Matter when white on white crime happens so what is your point?


If someone were to start threads here about white on white crime I would absolutely say it.

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In fact I don't see anyone bring up white on white crime when discussing the shortcomings of other minority communities, yet that seems to be the go to for people who want to disenfranchise and ignore a real problem.


Okay. Let's talk about it.

For Black Lives Matter to be truly sincere, wouldn't it be absolutely necessary to bring awareness to the thousands of African Americans killed by members of their own race over the dozen or so killed by the police in the same time period?

What's being ignored here are the black lives taken every day in places like Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, etc.

That's not disenfranchisement. That's reality man.

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What's real to me is the reality that the only reason many here even care about any of these recruits is the fact the kid could help the team win football games. If the same kid wasn't a recruit, they wouldn't give a shite if he was ran down by some bumpkins a shot dead for jogging in Georgia.


You're probably right. I'm sure we have people who post here who feel that way. I'm not one of them.

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This shite is sad. I really don't understand why man is so inheriting wicked to itself and its own brother.


It is sad. It truly is.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37559 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 8:54 pm to
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I live in Center Point, Alabama.


Prayers sent
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 8:59 pm to
I didn’t know that you were from around here
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15169 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:10 pm to
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For Black Lives Matter to be truly sincere, wouldn't it be absolutely necessary to bring awareness to the thousands of African Americans killed by members of their own race over the dozen or so killed by the police in the same time period?


Police are suppose to serve and protect. That's litetally part of their job title.

You can't draw a comparison with people whose job is to protect you to random every day crime much of which is gang-related and brought about by poverty.

The reality is the white on white crime is no different than black on black crime. It's crime. Period. No one justifies it because it's moronic to defend.

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What's being ignored here are the black lives taken every day in places like Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, etc.

That's not disenfranchisement. That's reality man.


How are they beung ignored? Those are crimes which are reported which have law enforcement working to apprehend the offenders.

This is no ifferent than white on white crime or whatever color crime, being reported and law enforcement investigating to apprehend criminals.


When Police are the ones committing these offenses it's different. When they are getting away with them unless someone catches them in the act on camera phone.. it makes things boil up to this point.

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You're probably right. I'm sure we have people who post here who feel that way. I'm not one of them.


There was a time I believed this and at one point would have actually met you for a drink and to talk football. Now, I see the resentment and anger and I just don't know.

I don't get how people hate people so much or have to slant things so negatively just because they were born different.

I'm just happy Saban isn't like that. I honestly believe he gives a damn about these young men even outside of football purposes.
This post was edited on 6/25/20 at 9:14 pm
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
5618 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:51 pm to
The black-on-black crime is absolutely ignored. It is ignored by the media and the race baiters. Instead people choose to point at a very microscopic number of cases that involve the police killing someone. Most of those cases involve a violent offender or a response to a violent offense. The fact is more police die on duty than do black men. You add to this the “No snitching” culture in the black community, and yeah, black-on-black crime is hypocritically passed over by many important groups.

I don’t agree with “Billy bad-butt” cops, but let’s Not slander all police as such. These are men with families just like us, who want to go home to them. I also don’t think that getting arrested is a voluntary thing. If one resists, then there should be actions taken to force an arrest. These guys use tactics to subdue strong and violent, sometimes drug charged, individuals. They have to do their jobs. I mean we ask them to do it.

Now the Floyd situation is different. It was obvious that Chauvin abused his power and authority, and he deserves serious repercussions for what appears to have been a cold blooded murder.

The calls to defund police and the “No snitches” matter directly contradict the idea that there is no difference in law enforcement investigating any other group’s crimes. American blacks are the only group that has decided to do this.

Facts don’t have feeling or have hate and people noting facts aren’t being hateful. Reality is just reality. The American black community needs to clean its own house.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:02 pm to
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The American black community needs to clean its own house.



So does the white community.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15169 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:25 pm to
What you state isn't facts, it's blind one-sided rhetoric.

All you've done is attempt to paint the black community as inhuman which is nonsense and speaks to who you are as an individual that you would even see things so slanted.



Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75823 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:36 pm to
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The reality is the white on white crime is no different than black on black crime. It's crime. Period. No one justifies it because it's moronic to defend.


You're right. Criminals come from all races and I condemn them equally. I can honestly say I've never had a black person commit a criminal offense against me. Again, I'm someone who holds individuals accountable for their actions, not their entire race.

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How are they beung ignored?


They are being ignored by the Black Lives Matter movement entirely. They focus solely on the dozen or so deaths committed by the police and completely ignore the murders in the black community. Black Lives Matter all the time. Sunday through Saturday. January 1st to December 31st. They focus on hate and division. I want them to focus on every life wrongfully taken.

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There was a time I believed this and at one point would have actually met you for a drink and to talk football.


I'll meet you for drinks whenever you want. I've always liked what you bring to the board.

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Now, I see the resentment and anger and I just don't know.


That's just it. I'm not resentful or angry. I am trying to explain why I don't agree with the current Black Lives Matter platform. It isn't meant for everyone in the black community, only the ones killed by the police. They should have the same passion for every black person killed and they don't.

This post was edited on 6/25/20 at 10:39 pm
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