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re: After watching Penix vs Michigan…all Milroe haters need to STFU
Posted on 1/9/24 at 5:30 am to YStar
Posted on 1/9/24 at 5:30 am to YStar
The worst part about all this is if Milroe develops into a stat next year you guys will all deny you literally hate him and pretend all of these posts never happened.
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 5:37 am to TS1926
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A competent QB and Bama is celebrating another national title.
Competent QB play like Washington had only scoring 13 points with two ints? Who scored more vs Michigan, Alabama with Milroe or Washington with the heisman runner up?
We both know the answer.
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 5:40 am
Posted on 1/9/24 at 5:41 am to CrimsonFever
I don't see why they can't accept Michigan had a fantastic defense with a fantastic playcaller who we needed to be creative to bear.
It isn't that hard
It isn't that hard
Posted on 1/9/24 at 6:20 am to YStar
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I don't see why they can't accept Michigan had a fantastic defense
I never saw one UA fan disagree with this statement. Again though why do so many assume because someone has a different opinion about Milroe that they hate him?
Some of you need to step back into reality. I have never understood why some people take it so personal they have to reword what others say to defend their own position as if they have to be right.
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It isn't that hard
It isn't that hard to see that Milroe was not a great QB this year. That does not translate to hating a player.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 6:43 am to TideWarrior
We all have said Milroe has limitations.
Why can't you guys admit the OC has had them as well???
Why can't you guys admit the OC has had them as well???
Posted on 1/9/24 at 6:51 am to YStar
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Why can't you guys admit the OC has had them as well???
I have never said he has not. I have been frustrated by play calling as well especially when the run game seems to be working and we go away from it.
The issue I have seen all season is that Rees wants to game plan a certain way but ignores the limitations of Milroe as if they will just go away.
For me it is not which came first the chicken(Milroe) or egg(Rees) philosphy off what is the real issue but more so the square peg into a round whole understanding what can be called to work withwhat you have.
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 10:41 am
Posted on 1/9/24 at 7:02 am to mistaken4193
This is simply a poor take. Milroe didn’t lose us the game against UM, but he didn’t help us win the game either. Milroe still has several issues that need to be correct (that were seen all season). Let’s not take 1 game, against 1 common opponent, on different teams, with different OL, different WR, different schemes, different game plans, etc… and just to the conclusion that Milroe is as good as Penix.
Penix looked awful last night, Milroe is still not on his level. Maybe next year with a lot of development.
Penix looked awful last night, Milroe is still not on his level. Maybe next year with a lot of development.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 7:05 am to mistaken4193
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QB Rating:
Milroe-111.9
Penix- 93.6
And Milroe had worse recievers, Less Protection, and had to deal with a bad snap almost every play.
When discussing, not only the Michigan game but the entire season long offense. This never, ever, ever, ever needs to be forgotten.
Seth Mclaughlin and his play colored every single aspect of that offense. We really don't know how good Jalen Milroe actually is. We know he's not elite but what we don't know is how much better he can actually be.
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 7:06 am
Posted on 1/9/24 at 7:18 am to UhOhOreo
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he also moved the chains time after time because of his arm
He also made some horrible throws. Worse throws than Milroe made.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 7:29 am to Pandy Fackler
I just don't understand how any concern on offense whether it be playcalling or QB play doesn't begin with the Oline and coaching. Not to absolve Rees or Milroe of their short comings but we need to play better in the trenches.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 7:37 am to Carlton
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I just don't understand how any concern on offense whether it be playcalling or QB play doesn't begin with the Oline and coaching. Not to absolve Rees or Milroe of their short comings but we need to play better in the trenches.
I would read the game threads and watch people bitch about Rees and Milroe and ask myself this. How the frick do you scheme and play around an offensive line this bad? How do you put someone like Milroe in a position to win, when not only his line can't block worth a shite but he never quite knows where every single snap is going to fly off to?
And if you're Tommy Rees, how in the holy shite do you game plan around that?
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 7:39 am
Posted on 1/9/24 at 7:45 am to Carlton
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I just don't understand how any concern on offense whether it be playcalling or QB play doesn't begin with the Oline and coaching
It all needs to be better. The OL was BAD at times. The OC is a little green. The QB has a long way to go. All 3 of these can be true at the same time. It’s weird how the third statement is at all controversial.
Maybe the QB’s inability to read the D and hit open guys is on coaching to some degree, but it is hard to imagine he isn’t being coached on these things. The OL left him out to dry at times., but some sacks were from holding the ball too long or not being able to recognize pressure. He also went down surprisingly easy for a guy with his size and athleticism. When he had time and open guys, he was very boom or bust.
I hope he gets better at these things, but these are areas that have shown the least improvement over the season.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 7:52 am to mistaken4193
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Milroe haters need to STFU
Milroe is the primary reason we lost to Michigan. Followed closely by the offensive line, specifically the Center.
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 7:55 am
Posted on 1/9/24 at 7:57 am to Crimson K
The third thing isn't controversial, it is just beaten to death. The Oline recently is not mentioned which is the starting point. Football is won in the trenches. I believe Milroe could have made plays to help and Rees could have made some quick throw calls to help them, but they were beat straight up, did a poor job picking up blitz and just couldn't snap the ball too many times. We have had this problem for 3 years, even when Bryce was making all the calls.
We have not had consistant or dominant Oline play since 2020. We have won championships with weak QB play and mediocre coordinators before. We have never won a championship with mediocre Oline play.
This is not to say we should be ok with bad coordinators or QB play but the Oline is by far the most important problem. It has been for several years.
We have not had consistant or dominant Oline play since 2020. We have won championships with weak QB play and mediocre coordinators before. We have never won a championship with mediocre Oline play.
This is not to say we should be ok with bad coordinators or QB play but the Oline is by far the most important problem. It has been for several years.
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 10:17 am
Posted on 1/9/24 at 7:58 am to mistaken4193
LANK/STANK
Posted on 1/9/24 at 8:02 am to imjustafatkid
The thing is, for me, is that I expect Milroe, Rees, and the offensive line to all play a lot better next year.
Washington has to rebuild all over the place.
Washington has to rebuild all over the place.
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 8:56 am
Posted on 1/9/24 at 8:24 am to YStar
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The worst part about all this is if Milroe develops into a stat next year you guys will all deny you literally hate him and pretend all of these posts never happened.
Milroe developing into something has no bearing on discussing where he is now.
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 8:26 am
Posted on 1/9/24 at 8:58 am to WW
Please have all the Pro/Con Milroe post entered by 6 PM today.
Thanks,
The Management
Thanks,
The Management
Posted on 1/9/24 at 10:11 am to Carlton
This is accurate and why it drives me crazy to watch guys just say Rees sucks, it’s all his fault. Rees isn’t great but he isn’t bad either. And we aren’t changing our offense to full Gus bus to try and help Milroe. We have always ran the same offense since Lane came in and redid everything. We aren’t making earth shattering changes to cater to a severely handicapped QB. Plus Milroe hasn’t shown an ability to make quick reads and throw short routes at a high enough level to run a strict RPO offense. Rees is a lot like Steele in the fact they are solid but they aren’t gonna out scheme anyone. Difference is Steele had elite talent to work with. Rees had a really up and down o line and a handicapped QB. The defense still had weaknesses in the middle and Steele was never able to scheme away from that. Rees wasn’t able to scheme away from the offenses weaknesses either. It’s a team effort and everyone involved just kinda sucked last week
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 10:12 am
Posted on 1/9/24 at 10:18 am to BamaBy50
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This is accurate and why it drives me crazy to watch guys just say Rees sucks, it’s all his fault. Rees isn’t great but he isn’t bad either. And we aren’t changing our offense to full Gus bus to try and help Milroe. We have always ran the same offense since Lane came in and redid everything. We aren’t making earth shattering changes to cater to a severely handicapped QB. Plus Milroe hasn’t shown an ability to make quick reads and throw short routes at a high enough level to run a strict RPO offense. Rees is a lot like Steele in the fact they are solid but they aren’t gonna out scheme anyone. Difference is Steele had elite talent to work with. Rees had a really up and down o line and a handicapped QB. The defense still had weaknesses in the middle and Steele was never able to scheme away from that. Rees wasn’t able to scheme away from the offenses weaknesses either. It’s a team effort and everyone involved just kinda sucked last week
Not saying you are wrong, but if we simply kept doing what we were doing with our RBs against Michigan then we likely beat them by two scores.
McClellan: 14 for 87 and 2 TDs
Haynes: 5 for 31
Miller: 1 for 11
a mere 20 carries for our RBs who were averaging 6.5 ypc.
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