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re: UGA and big time QB recruits

Posted on 12/4/25 at 8:10 am to
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26805 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 8:10 am to
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Give Bobo or any good coach/coordinator a steady stream of those guys and you can win championships.

I think OP’s point is that we aren’t getting a steady stream of these guys because we keep getting dumped by the shiny toy at the last second.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
15822 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 8:20 am to
This one must have gone bad as it is my understanding that Kirby dumped him from all social media but has kept Raiola.

What a trashy family for allowing this mess.

National Title contenders aren't going to let you play right away.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
4585 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 10:10 am to
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This one must have gone bad as it is my understanding that Kirby dumped him from all social media but has kept Raiola.


Kirby's not the type to take it personally just because a recruit chooses another school. If he cuts ties, that may indicate he believes the recruit and his handlers were not negotiating in good faith. When it comes to potential future dealings with that individual, as Ron White says, "That's a handy little piece of information to have, right there".
This post was edited on 12/4/25 at 11:19 am
Posted by Go_Dawgs
Member since Nov 2012
1030 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 7:05 pm to
This new NIL environment just makes it where recruiting doesn't move the needle for me anymore.

Was talking about this today at work.

Why get excited about a 5* QB that will transfer out if they dont play day 1?

Sure, would be nice to land them, but in the current environment, if they dont play, they're gone.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
15822 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 7:08 pm to
I will take the kid that balled out at a lesser school and comes to ga.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
16571 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 7:24 pm to
People are missing the plot - Really good QBs can be found in the transfer portal. Id take a proven guy over a young recruit any day. Stetson Bennett and guys like him are playing at lesser schools just looking for an opportunity.
Posted by junkyarddawg3
Metro ATL
Member since Nov 2015
817 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:07 am to
Seems a program like UGA would have put more quality, sustained QBs in the NFL over decades, even more so over the last decade. But that’s not the case.

Stafford is the only one I can think of.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
19959 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:23 am to
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Stetson Bennett and guys like him are playing at lesser schools just looking for an opportunity


That's like finding a needle in a haystack. Those are very, very rare.
Posted by dhuck20
SCLSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
22928 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:34 am to
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I think UGA needs to have contingency plans for any player that is committed at an NIL number below market value or who has some kind of tie that could make them a tempting overpay for another school close to NSD. Raiola and now Curtis both qualify.
Didnt Kirby’s presser this week hint they do this? Something to the effect of knowing it was a possibility for weeks and having backup plans in place. However, I’m sure they wanted to show Curtis he was the only one they wanted.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
4585 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:45 am to
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Seems a program like UGA would have put more quality, sustained QBs in the NFL over decades, even more so over the last decade.


Kirby emphasizes, and I think he's being honest, that he wants men who play for team and love of the game. Personal goals are fine, but they can't take precedence over team. Probably more than any other position, that kind of coaching can make it tough to recruit and retain highly rated NFL Prototype QB's. Fortunately for UGA, that's exactly the kind of coaching that produces sustainable college football success.
This post was edited on 12/5/25 at 12:36 pm
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19073 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:50 am to
Another thing we seem to miss is we have 3 young highly touted QBs right now.

Stockton is a redshirt Sophomore
Pugs is a redshirt freshman
Montgomery is a true freshman

How many young QBs do we need or expect to get?

If you have to start a true freshman QB you’ve already messed up. If anything, this is a testament to how well we’ve recruited the position that were stacked three deep with talented QBs that have a year of separation. Missing on the hot young QB that wants to start day 1 is a good thing…because we don’t want a true freshman QB1.

You’re never going to be 6 deep in QBs of any talent because they’re not going to take the chance of never seeing the field.

Also, kids in the system probably realize just how much they need to improve to make an impact. A HS senior doesn’t know this or their ego is so big they don’t care (Fields).
This post was edited on 12/5/25 at 10:56 am
Posted by bigdawg7780
SC
Member since Oct 2013
2917 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:58 am to
Collective bargain, have them sign contracts etc it’s pro sports at this point/“.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
9738 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:38 am to
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Dumbasses think they can play right away, that doesn't mix with teams who compete for NCs every single year


I think wanting to start day 1 is the opposite of being a dumbass. Sure, it's likely you're going to play on a pretty mediocre team but the NFL doesn't give a shite if you won 3 championships or 0. They want to see talent and the sooner you can start showing the talent and growing throughout each season, learning from in-game mistakes, seeing multiple defenses, the better a draft prospect you'll be.

Team pride and all that are exiting the sport. It's a damn shame but kids nowadays are always looking out for #1 because these schools are always looking out for #1.

Kirby is still clinging to the strategy of finding kids willing to commit to the program, and he's been pretty successful finding them, but you're automatically going to limit your pool of prospects and are opening yourself up to commits jumping ship when the big dollars and playing time are thrown at them.
Posted by junkyarddawg3
Metro ATL
Member since Nov 2015
817 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:49 am to
Yes, but they aren’t mutually exclusive; difficult to maintain, possibly.

That stated, for the most part I have been happy with the performance at the QB position.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19073 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

Sure, it's likely you're going to play on a pretty mediocre team but the NFL doesn't give a shite if you won 3 championships or 0


No but they figure out pretty quickly if you’re able to read a defense, call the right play at the line or anticipate a route vs waiting until a guy is open like you did in HS. You may get picked up and good for you….hell you may even go early….but a kid that doesn’t take the time to learn the game at a high level is selling themselves short and taking a chance of being the next Jacob Eason.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75052 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 12:32 pm to
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. We could always go portal.

There's always a Haynes King lurking out there who was a bad fit for his original destination.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
15822 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 1:17 pm to
Elite teams get far more coverage than crap teams. QBs from Lower schools are generally anomalies and I think even that may end with the portal.

White boy prep football in no way prepared you to start in the sec, only smart thing Arch did but easy to do when they pay you to sit.
Posted by Rex Feral
Member since Jan 2014
15925 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 2:21 pm to
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We gotta do something different.


I counted 7 5 star QBs who won a nattie since the BCS era started 26 year ago. Of note, Alabama never won a title with a 5 star recruit at QB.
Young
Leak
Tebow
Newton
Winston
Lawrence
McCarthy
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
16227 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 2:24 pm to
High School recruiting has become far less important now that the transfer portal is here. I’d rather spend NIL dollars on guys that have proven it at a D-1 level than a high school senior who has been running/throwing/catching over a bunch of kids who will likely never step foot on a college football field. Not that HS is irrelevant, but it’s not the make-or-break that it used to be. Missed on a big time QB prospect and you were expecting him to be a contributor in year 1? Go grab the best QB from a non-power 5 conference and you’re likely going to get better production from the jump.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7589 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 5:13 pm to
Although I would love to have Curtis I'm not worried about the QB position. It's going to be interesting to see how Curtis and Vandy compete next year. I would be surprised if their record is as good as this year's.
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