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re: Texas & Oklahoma to the SEC?

Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:38 pm to
Posted by superdawg
Chattanooga
Member since Oct 2013
1355 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:38 pm to
I wonder how auburn will try to screw us when the all of the schedules are reorganized?
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59530 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:31 pm to
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They should be booted out for the kicking shenanigans from last season.

And canceling twice, causing our Seniors not to get a Senior Day.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:14 pm to
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vandy ain't going anywhere with their baseball


Vandy isn't going anywhere because having a private school in the conference prevents SEC from being FOIA'd to death I believe.
Posted by miledawg
athens ga
Member since Sep 2005
2033 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:19 am to
College football has been my favorite sport, really my only sport since 1975 when I went to sanford stadium for the first time. The SEC was a cozy 10 team regional conference. Getting to the sugar bowl was a really big deal and the MNC was decided by a convoluted system that sometimes worked but was always fascinating. The players were generally good ol boys who mostly went to class like regular students and worked jobs in the summer.

Now we are talking super-conferences flung across multiple time zones. NIL. Players groomed from grade school to play football and holed up in the football complex year round coming out only for games. 12 team playoff. It is not inconceivable that on a given year two teams would have played each other THREE times before all is said and done.

I realize that times change and nothing stays the same, but at what point is there a tipping point and people start to lose interest? Maybe just people like me who nostalgically remember the 10 team SEC fondly.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:31 pm to
I warned of all this.

And got mocked.


You people deserve this shite. Will be fun watching the sufferings
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27291 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 4:07 pm to
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wonder how auburn will try to screw us when the all of the schedules are reorganized?



It won't be for lack of effort.They
now play LSU the week before us.Not exactly the competitive advantage they were looking for when they moved the DSOR.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 2:58 am to
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but at what point is there a tipping point and people start to lose interest?


People have been losing interest for a while now. It will only get worse, as the younger generations aren't as interested in football.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29645 posts
Posted on 7/25/21 at 9:57 am to
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Vandy isn't going anywhere because their academic endowment makes sports money look like my wallet lol


doesn’t their status as a private school also offer a form of protection for the whole conference on privacy issues? Seems I read something about that a few years back...
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14158 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:34 am to
Not only that but other …. Notably not southern schools…are rumored to be in talks too.

Say goodbye to the SEC and welcome to the Collegiate Football League. Where players are paid, can transfer freely, the CFL will establish their own rules and if you don’t pay the piper you can stay on the periphery of college football.

Sounds like hyperbole but I can see this all headed in that direction.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46412 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:41 am to
Sounds like heading in the exact direction of the premier league, relegation and all. Will have a Northern CFL and a Southern CFL. SEC will be reincarnated as a division within the Southern CFL
This post was edited on 7/26/21 at 9:42 am
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46412 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:42 am to
I think it means as conference business is concerned, the rest of the conference can hide behind Vandy’s right to privacy in the face of FOIA requests when they’re involved and in the room
This post was edited on 7/26/21 at 9:43 am
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14158 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:10 pm to
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Sounds like heading in the exact direction of the premier league, relegation and all. Will have a Northern CFL and a Southern CFL. SEC will be reincarnated as a division within the Southern CFL



And then after a few years of this, groups of students that aren’t good enough for the CFL will form intramural teams and start playing each other and other schools on the weekend….
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27291 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 11:31 pm to
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Vandy isn't going anywhere because their academic endowment makes sports money look like my wallet lol


And has zero to do with athletics or the conference.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63853 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 10:47 am to
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I think it means as conference business is concerned, the rest of the conference can hide behind Vandy’s right to privacy in the face of FOIA requests when they’re involved and in the room


False. FOIA must still be granted and the private party redacted.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 11:06 am to
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False. FOIA must still be granted and the private party redacted.


The letter of the law is rarely the key here... the ability to redact and the fact that they are the ones that get to do it are indeed one form of protection.

Then, you also get stuff like you see with the B1G last offseason: LINK /

(open in incognito and use ublock origin to zap things out of the way if you get paywalled) TL;DR - they used a private portal owned/maintained by the conference to end-around the "communications in possession of the public institution"... it may not hold up in the long run, but for the vast majority of this stuff, they only care about time... there is very little value to FOIA information 6 months to a year later, so it serves as a mechanism to deter FOIA requests if nothing else.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7419 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 12:44 pm to
Read where the SEC had actually solicited other schools like Michigan, tOSU, and a handful of other big10 schools.

Call me crazy, but it sure seems like the SEC is looking to nudge out the NCAA and create their own league, their own champion, their own dollars. Whether this is just a football move, I don't know, but this is definitely a move being made by the SEC to strengthen themselves at the expense of the NCAA.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25541 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 1:04 pm to
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expense of the NCAA.


Ncaa is getting what it deserves, imo.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 1:24 pm to
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Read where the SEC had actually solicited other schools like Michigan, tOSU, and a handful of other big10 schools.


So far that appears to be conjured out of thin air. I've yet to see a single source or any shred of evidence indicating those claims are accurate.

I wouldn't be surprised if the SEC tries to nudge out the NCAA, but tOSU and Michigan would be unlikely targets... if anything, they'd likely try to swallow the better ACC programs and leave the B1G out to dry until they beg to join.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27291 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 5:51 pm to
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wouldn't be surprised if the SEC tries to nudge out the NCAA,


The NCAA is almost obsolete when it comes to CFB.There's zero reason to take over the mundane duties of the NCAA unless you want to go after the March Madness TV revenue and I believe they recently updated their deal with the NCAA
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 7:30 pm to
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I wonder how auburn will try to screw us when the all of the schedules are reorganized?


Why would they try to screw us; we aren't related to them.
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