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re: Realistic expectations for Kirby Smart?We know that a top 10 finish 1/2 the time
Posted on 12/15/15 at 8:45 pm to RD Dawg
Posted on 12/15/15 at 8:45 pm to RD Dawg
Make it to Atlanta and have a chance of winning - once within the next few years. I think we all know that a total coaching change will cause a disruption so I'm willing to give it time to get things right.
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Posted on 12/15/15 at 8:55 pm to RD Dawg
quote:Can we make it to the SECCG during years where we are the heavy favorite and the other teams in the division blow? Maybe not losing to one of said teams by 3+ scores with the division on the line. Or maybe not trotting out someone with no real game experience in the most important game of the season?
Obviously the standards have to be more than playing in the SECCG once every 3 years and finishing in the top 10 half the time.Just asking what your expectations are using those 2 as your point of reference. Quite simple actually.
Cause that'd be a nice start. Then maybe develop some depth on the LOS. Sprinkle in some actual attention to detail and we might be getting somewhere.
It's easy to bring up the "every 3 years" and "top 10 half the time" stuff but that also ignores that the first half of his career here was very different from the last half.
This post was edited on 12/15/15 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 12/15/15 at 9:15 pm to WG_Dawg
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so, he should be fired if we go 6-6?
Well of course not.
How ever expectations should not be tempered. this is not a re-building job.
You list what we've lost. How about the 22 freshmen that played last year on a possible 10 win team.
Eason will , more than likely at least be equal to what we have considering he is an EE and will have spring practice. We had #6 class last year and at least that this year. The shelves are stocked.
UF is losing a ton on defense, they had 5 JR declare today. Plus will be breaking in a new QB more than likely.
For years everyone has claimed that winning 8-9 games a year is easy at UGA.
So yeah, if we don't win 9, there should be some pressure and heat applied.
I have no idea where everyone gets off pumping the breaks , wanting to not set expectations high.
They should be high, this is not a REBUILDING JOB. if CMR was retained, ya'll would be calling for an SEC title or his head next year with the returning team.
Posted on 12/15/15 at 9:18 pm to RD Dawg
13-0 and a natty or he's fired
Posted on 12/15/15 at 9:26 pm to Dawgholio
In the future, we should have UGA head coach Elections....
-4 year HC term limits
-HC candidate debates live on GPTV
-alumni votes 1/1
-in state side walker vote at a 3/5ths compromise
-out-of-state side walkers ineligible for voting.
-4 year HC term limits
-HC candidate debates live on GPTV
-alumni votes 1/1
-in state side walker vote at a 3/5ths compromise
-out-of-state side walkers ineligible for voting.
This post was edited on 12/15/15 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 12/15/15 at 9:59 pm to TMDawg
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First half was different than the last half
Maybe but lets look at the last 5 years of his career....somewhat right in line...2 SECCG and 2
top 10 finishes.
This post was edited on 12/15/15 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 12/15/15 at 10:20 pm to RD Dawg
Can we just not beat up on the po-dunk teams, then get beat in hyped game after hyped game...finish the season with 9 regular season wins/10 total wins......
I liked the change. I have always, even up until the announcement game, been a Richt supporter, but who COULDNT win 8-9 games every year at UGA with the talent in GA and the schedules we play....
I liked the change. I have always, even up until the announcement game, been a Richt supporter, but who COULDNT win 8-9 games every year at UGA with the talent in GA and the schedules we play....
Posted on 12/16/15 at 5:53 am to IT_Dawg
My expectations:
Not calling a timeout after a timeout.
Limit stupid penalties.
Instill on field discipline into the players.
Stomp the teams we should.
Play close or beat the best teams on our schedule.
Let the win/loss be determined by the play on the field. Don't lose a game because of coaching.
Do that and let the chips fall where they will.
Not calling a timeout after a timeout.
Limit stupid penalties.
Instill on field discipline into the players.
Stomp the teams we should.
Play close or beat the best teams on our schedule.
Let the win/loss be determined by the play on the field. Don't lose a game because of coaching.
Do that and let the chips fall where they will.
Posted on 12/16/15 at 6:33 am to JCdawg
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My expectations are 7-5 to 9-3 next year, likely finishing 3rd in the east.
Aren't you the one that was saying a mediocre coach could win 10 games every year? (I could be wrong as I get you confused with another poster from time to time)
I would hope we can do at least what Richt did, and improve on it. I mean, that is what we changed coaches for, correct? To take us to the next level? Therefore, I would expect us to get to the next level. Not necessarily this next year, but within 2-3 years we should be firmly entrenched into "the next level". If we are not, why did we change coaches?
Posted on 12/16/15 at 6:38 am to TMDawg
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Can we make it to the SECCG during years where we are the heavy favorite and the other teams in the division blow? Maybe not losing to one of said teams by 3+ scores with the division on the line.
Which team that was bad did we lose to by 3+ scores?
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Or maybe not trotting out someone with no real game experience in the most important game of the season?
I definitely remember many on this board screaming to give Bauta a chance because he might not practice well and be a great QB in a real game. Several cheered the decision....until after the game.
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It's easy to bring up the "every 3 years" and "top 10 half the time" stuff but that also ignores that the first half of his career here was very different from the last half.
I love to see how the narrative changes once you guys get what you wanted. Suddenly the bar is lowered for the favored coach. Yes...his career was not the same as it was earlier in Richt's stint here. We came an eyelash away from playing for a National Championship. Seems I recall someone in this very thread saying that a Natty sprinkled in with a bunch of 6-6 years would be fine.
Posted on 12/16/15 at 6:44 am to 3rddownonthe8
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For years everyone has claimed that winning 8-9 games a year is easy at UGA.
Actually they were saying 10 games is easy, since we are in the East and play 3 cupcakes.
I think they are going to find out that is just isn't that easy. I agree with everything you have said. Amazing how those expectations come crashing down because we got "change we can believe in."
That said, I am behind Smart. I think he will be just fine and will do at LEAST as well as Richt, and maybe...MAYBE better. I also agree with WG. You have to look at each season on its on merits. Injuries, flukes etc all play into the way a season plays out.
Posted on 12/16/15 at 6:44 am to RD Dawg
Competing for an SEC title every year after 2-3 years of rebuilding and getting his system in place. If we don't make it to the SEC title game it should only be because another team in the East goes undefeated and has some sort of magical year. No more losing to shitty teams.
Posted on 12/16/15 at 6:57 am to DawgsLife
quote:You're more than welcome to try and convince me that UF was a good team in 2014.
Which team that was bad did we lose to by 3+ scores?
quote:It's not a shocker that the fans can't judge talent as well as coaches should be able to. I think fans also were under the impression that our passing game was so horrible, we might be trying to incorporate a running QB. Not taking a QB that we know can't throw as well and plugging him into the same shitty offense. After having him split reps with the ones.
I definitely remember many on this board screaming to give Bauta a chance because he might not practice well and be a great QB in a real game. Several cheered the decision....until after the game.
quote:I was pretty clear about what I wanted to see. It's the same thing I wanted to see from Richt and didn't. No use repeating it. Richt is gone, at some point you just have to let it go.
I love to see how the narrative changes once you guys get what you wanted. Suddenly the bar is lowered for the favored coach. Yes...his career was not the same as it was earlier in Richt's stint here. We came an eyelash away from playing for a National Championship. Seems I recall someone in this very thread saying that a Natty sprinkled in with a bunch of 6-6 years would be fine.
Posted on 12/16/15 at 7:08 am to TMDawg
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You're more than welcome to try and convince me that UF was a good team in 2014.
Or 2015 for that matter.
Posted on 12/16/15 at 11:05 am to TMDawg
It's not about letting Richt go anymore. Most if not all CMR supporters are fine with CKS. We all hope he does well.
But for the life of me cannot figure out why those who have been screaming for CMR to be out for years , for not meeting their expectations ; are now willing to lower those expectations for CKS.
We are not in a rebuilding mode, maybe a restructuring but not rebuilding. That is not an excuse for failure.
But for the life of me cannot figure out why those who have been screaming for CMR to be out for years , for not meeting their expectations ; are now willing to lower those expectations for CKS.
We are not in a rebuilding mode, maybe a restructuring but not rebuilding. That is not an excuse for failure.
This post was edited on 12/16/15 at 11:06 am
Posted on 12/16/15 at 11:24 am to 3rddownonthe8
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But for the life of me cannot figure out why those who have been screaming for CMR to be out for years , for not meeting their expectations ; are now willing to lower those expectations for CKS.
It's not unreasonable to expect a first year coach with first year coordinators to experience some growing pains. In year 1, 8-4 is ok. By year 15, anything less than 10-2 and a SECCG and/or NY6 bowl game should be looked at as a failure.
By year 4-5 for Smart, I'll expect the same thing.
Posted on 12/16/15 at 11:40 am to VADawg
Smart is poised to steal 10s of millions of dollars from UGA with y'all's blessing. God bless him.
Posted on 12/16/15 at 11:49 am to VADawg
2016 schedule -
UNC at GA Dome - ( Williams is a SR ) - W
NICK ST - W
@ MIZZ - W
@ OM - L
UT - L
@ USC - W
VU - W
UF - toss up ( they are losing a lot on D and QB situation)
@ UK - W
AU - W
LS CAJUNS - W
GT - W
I'm looking at 10-2, 9-3 at worse.
Where does anyone really see 4-6 losses?
UNC at GA Dome - ( Williams is a SR ) - W
NICK ST - W
@ MIZZ - W
@ OM - L
UT - L
@ USC - W
VU - W
UF - toss up ( they are losing a lot on D and QB situation)
@ UK - W
AU - W
LS CAJUNS - W
GT - W
I'm looking at 10-2, 9-3 at worse.
Where does anyone really see 4-6 losses?
Posted on 12/16/15 at 11:54 am to RD Dawg
Passive pro-CMR post. We all liked the guy, but 15 years is enough. In his last 8 seasons, UGA finished the season with a higher ranking than it started a total of............drum roll...........................once. It's time to let someone younger and with more belly fire, like Kirby Smart, to see what he can do. He may do worse than Richt, only time will tell. Does it matter if you're winning 10 games or 8 games when none of the games you win really matter in the context of a SECC? I think CKS will bring new energy to the program and will be successful, if McGarity stays out of his way. With the recruits that UGA has available each year, and with CKS's recruiting skills, I could see the Dawgs in the Dome (the new one) within the next 3 years. I didn't think that way with CMR. In fact I had given up on hoping, as had a lot of other UGA fans.
Posted on 12/16/15 at 11:57 am to RD Dawg
Next season is a tougher schedule but I'll be happy if he has them ready to play UNC in the Georgia dome and beats a couple of teams that we weren't picked to beat. Like UNC, Ole Mess, UT. It would be real nice to beat UT and the Gayturds. Progress on both sides of the ball and game day prep is big. The days of the roll in unprepared for a bed shitting has to end. GO DAWGS
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