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Point made on a podcast last week....
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:44 am
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:44 am
Not sure if I'm allowed to mention the podcast on here but the initials are DWD. The host had a beat writer on, want to say the writer's name was David something? Anyway, the host starts the show and totally has Stetson's back saying he's not to blame for the loss, there's no way JT Daniels is ready or he would've played, and that Stetson earned the job.
This beat writer gets on and just unloads, completely contradicting what the host said.
The most salient point the writer made was regarding how Bama and Saban gameplan. Saban and that Bama offense literally won that game by relying on their 3 best players....Harris (31-152), Smith (11-167), and Waddle (6-161). 480yds of total offense from the three best players on that team. Their TOTAL offense was 564yds, so 85% of their total offense went through those three top players.
Meanwhile, you have Kirby. A freshman WR was targeted 12 times while the badass TE transfer, McKitty, got 1 target. The stud RB we brought in, Kendall Milton, had only 6 touches and averaged 8ypc. The RB by committee was a disaster. Pickens and Kearis weren't targeted nearly enough.
The writer's point, and one I can absolutely get behind, is Kirby needs to either stop making promises to recruits about playing time or he needs to do a better job of identifying the top 3-4 players on the team and ride them to victories.
I mean, who has watched every game this season and thought, "wow, sure am glad that Zeus and midget boy Cook are getting more carries than KennyMc and Milton!"? Identify the best players, get the ball into their hands, and win big games.
Anyway, the podcast is worth a listen. It was released last Tue or Wed.
ETA: This also kind of ties in with the other thread about Fields and Fromm, imo.
This beat writer gets on and just unloads, completely contradicting what the host said.
The most salient point the writer made was regarding how Bama and Saban gameplan. Saban and that Bama offense literally won that game by relying on their 3 best players....Harris (31-152), Smith (11-167), and Waddle (6-161). 480yds of total offense from the three best players on that team. Their TOTAL offense was 564yds, so 85% of their total offense went through those three top players.
Meanwhile, you have Kirby. A freshman WR was targeted 12 times while the badass TE transfer, McKitty, got 1 target. The stud RB we brought in, Kendall Milton, had only 6 touches and averaged 8ypc. The RB by committee was a disaster. Pickens and Kearis weren't targeted nearly enough.
The writer's point, and one I can absolutely get behind, is Kirby needs to either stop making promises to recruits about playing time or he needs to do a better job of identifying the top 3-4 players on the team and ride them to victories.
I mean, who has watched every game this season and thought, "wow, sure am glad that Zeus and midget boy Cook are getting more carries than KennyMc and Milton!"? Identify the best players, get the ball into their hands, and win big games.
Anyway, the podcast is worth a listen. It was released last Tue or Wed.
ETA: This also kind of ties in with the other thread about Fields and Fromm, imo.
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Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:49 am to mmmmmbeeer
Milton and Macintosh are the better backs. Zeus is great for a 3-4 yard punch through. Cook in special packages.
I think it’s time we all admit who the best backs are, experience isn’t getting it done.
I think it’s time we all admit who the best backs are, experience isn’t getting it done.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:51 am to mmmmmbeeer
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there's no way JT Daniels is ready
that's probably true health wise. But he almost surely will be ready by december which is when we need him
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totally has Stetson's back saying he's not to blame for the loss
I don't see any rational way to support this. The ONLY other thing you can say is we didn't run enoguh in the 2nd half which is maybe 10% of the problem to stetson's 90%. He had guys running WIDE OPEN, even in the first half, that he never even looked at. He made bad reads. He made bad throws. He panicked and threw balls right to defenders for no reason. A stetson-level QB is good enough to beat pretty much every team on our regular season schedule but he's not going ot beat the bama's of the world.
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Saban and that Bama offense literally won that game by relying on their 3 best players.
that's easy to do when you have 2 all american receivers and a QB playing better htan anyone else in the country. You can't just say "well we should've thrown to pickens more" since the defense can easily zero in on him and we don't have a QB that's half as good as mac.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:52 am to mmmmmbeeer
If Kirby had Herschel as a true freshman would we be featuring a RB with more seniority?
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:53 am to mmmmmbeeer
Would rather prepare them for the potential rematch. Bama lost Waddle so Bama is wearing down.
I didn't think we would win that game anyway. Bamas offense was too far ahead of ours.
I didn't think we would win that game anyway. Bamas offense was too far ahead of ours.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:56 am to WG_Dawg
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that's probably true health wise. But he almost surely will be ready by december which is when we need him
fwiw, the beat writer expects JT to start against KY. Said he caught some of a practice with JT (no contact) and he was very impressed by how quickly he was going through his reads and he has a gun. Says he's ready.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:00 am to WG_Dawg
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that's easy to do when you have 2 all american receivers and a QB playing better htan anyone else in the country. You can't just say "well we should've thrown to pickens more" since the defense can easily zero in on him and we don't have a QB that's half as good as mac.
I would argue that Milton is on par with Harris if given the opportunity. Pickens is a beast. Our two top TEs got two totals targets against a depleted Bama LB corps.
I don't care who our QB is, these stats represent a failure in strategy:
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:00 am to mmmmmbeeer
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he was very impressed by how quickly he was going through his reads and he has a gun
everyone has been impressed iwht him, he just hasn't been healthy enough. We've gone as far as steton can take us, which for the record includes beatdowns of AU and UT so hey that's pretty fantastic. But we aren't winning the SEC or making the playoffs with stetson, that's just reality that anyone with eyes can see. He is probably the best 4th stringer we've had in decades but he was 4th string for a reason.
I can't wait to see JT play.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:03 am to mmmmmbeeer
Our best offensive players are not nearly as good as Bama’s, so it stands to reason that that strategy would likely not work nearly as well for UGA.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:08 am to mmmmmbeeer
Pickens and keaeis are our 2 best receivers and they got the 2nd most amount of targets, seems logical to me. And whje those guys were covered it led to more opportunities for jermaine.
Its also worth noting again there were SEVERAL times we had guys, I specifically remember Darnell and cook a few times, wide open and stetson never looked at them.
Based on what you posted I don't see anything wrong. I would think it wrong if we had continued to try to force balls to pickens that weren't there simply bc he's our top guy
Its also worth noting again there were SEVERAL times we had guys, I specifically remember Darnell and cook a few times, wide open and stetson never looked at them.
Based on what you posted I don't see anything wrong. I would think it wrong if we had continued to try to force balls to pickens that weren't there simply bc he's our top guy
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:15 am to WG_Dawg
Bama receivers didn't drop balls either.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:18 am to Peter Buck
Ours didn't in 2017 either. It's a big difference. Swift, Wims, Godwin, Ridley all caught everything, sometimes one handed.
It is what has haunted us in 2018, 2019, and now 2020. If it's thrown at you, you got to make the catch.
It is what has haunted us in 2018, 2019, and now 2020. If it's thrown at you, you got to make the catch.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:19 am to mmmmmbeeer
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I would argue that Milton is on par with Harris if given the opportunity
You serious, Clark?
And to respond to the first post. Alabama has 3 first round talents in this upcoming draft. Waddle, Smith, and possibly Harris. It's easier for them to just go out and try and force them the ball when they have that kind of playmaking skill. Stetson also needs to stop focusing on one receiver and make his reads and find the open man. He is the biggest reason we lost that game with Alabama but if he can improve enough to make the reads (and that's a big if) he can get us the W.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:25 am to mmmmmbeeer
Pickens and Jackson should be for us what Waddle and Smith are to Alabama. I don’t want to hear any bs about Pickens isn’t open because the defense keeps him locked up. Every team knows how good Waddle and Smith are yet they can’t stop them.
McIntosh and Milton are our best backs and need to get the bulk of carries. Zues Is very fast but he doesn’t have good lateral movement or vision. He would be best suited for short yardage situations or any type of short pass that would only require him to run straight ahead.
If Stetson is going to remain QB then he needs to realize he is a game manager not an elite QB. He needs to stop trying to force things to happen or make throws into double or triple coverage. He needs to be told to recognize his limitations.
When we become successful at running the ball we need to continue running the ball. It was stupid to give up on the run like we did against Bama when we were just starting to impose our will.
McIntosh and Milton are our best backs and need to get the bulk of carries. Zues Is very fast but he doesn’t have good lateral movement or vision. He would be best suited for short yardage situations or any type of short pass that would only require him to run straight ahead.
If Stetson is going to remain QB then he needs to realize he is a game manager not an elite QB. He needs to stop trying to force things to happen or make throws into double or triple coverage. He needs to be told to recognize his limitations.
When we become successful at running the ball we need to continue running the ball. It was stupid to give up on the run like we did against Bama when we were just starting to impose our will.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:30 am to FlexDawg
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Pickens and Jackson should be for us what Waddle and Smith are to Alabama.
You're comparing 2 first round picks with 1 first round pick and a mid to later round pick. Throw in Mechie and Harris and it's a lot harder to stop. Plus those three WRs for them can blow the top off of a defense. Outside of Burton we don't have anyone who can do that. And then add on Mac Jones throwing darts and reading the plays it makes a world of difference.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:31 am to mmmmmbeeer
Bennett probably could have thrown another 2 or 3 TDs to Cook if he was looking for him. There were plays where they didn't cover him in the flat.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:35 am to WG_Dawg
Kirby was asked again about JTD and was very clear saying "I was proud of all of our quarterbacks last week. They all worked hard they all competed and they all got better. Next question" 
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:51 am to mmmmmbeeer
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The RB by committee was a disaster.
Against Bama? No it wasn't
We averaged almost 5 ypc.The problem is that we ended up passing the ball 40 times and running it 30 times and in the 3rd qtr we passed the ball 9 outta 17 snaps. This is when the game was lost
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The writer's point, and one I can absolutely get behind, is Kirby needs to either stop making promises to recruits about playing time
This writer is an idiot and has no idea what Kirby "promises" to anybody
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This also kind of ties in with the other thread about Fields and Fromm, imo.
I'll pass and whoever this "writer" is has no business covering CFB.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 11:04 am to FlexDawg
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Pickens and Jackson should be for us what Waddle and Smith are to Alabama. I don’t want to hear any bs about Pickens isn’t open because the defense keeps him locked up. Every team knows how good Waddle and Smith are yet they can’t stop them.
The speed those Bama guys have was unbelievable. I don’t think ours guys have that...They also caught everything near their hands. Makes your QB look good.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 11:38 am to Peter Buck
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The speed those Bama guys have was unbelievable. I don’t think ours guys have that...They also caught everything near their hands. Makes your QB look good.
Switch Waddle and Smith with with Pickens and Jackson. Which guys have more production?
As a fan base we tend to place to much blame on and give too much credit to the QB. The past few years is a perfect example.
Sometimes, however, it's warranted.
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